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The FReeper Foxhole Revisits The Battle of Trenton - 1776 - Feb. 28, 2004
http://www.patriotresource.com/battles/trenton.html ^ | scott cummings

Posted on 02/28/2004 4:03:10 AM PST by snippy_about_it



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The Battle of Trenton


The First American Christmas


Appraising the Situation: December 13-December 25, 1776


As Maj. General William Howe entered winter quarters on December 13, 1776, Lt. General Charles Cornwallis now received permission to halt his advance at the Delaware River. Howe, supported by Maj. General Henry Clinton, wanted to pull his line of defense to between Brunswick and Newark. However, Cornwallis convinced Howe to extend the lines for several reasons. Tthe Americans were considered a minimal threat to the distant garrisons and lines of communication. Pulling back would make the British appear weak and unable to maintain positions. Such a move would also deprive New Jersey Loyalists of military protection during the winter.

As the British Army settled in for the winter, garrisons of Hessians were established at Burlington and another at Trenton under Colonel Johann Rall. Garrisons of British troops were established at Bordentown, Pennington, Perth Amboy and Princeton, while Cornwallis set up his base of operations at Brunswick, twenty-five miles behind the forward garrisons. Meanwhile, General George Washington's army was receiving a boost with new arrivals. Pennsylvania and Maryland militia under Colonel John Cadwalader and Colonel Nicholas Haussegger had begun to arrive on December 5 and continued to stream in.

On December 20, 1776, Maj. General John Sullivan arrived in command of the remaining 2,000 men from the 5,000 that had been under Maj. General Charles Lee's command untl his capture. On the same day, Maj. General Horatio Gates arrived 800 men set down from Fort Ticonderoga by Northern Department Commander Maj. General Philip Schuyler. Even though the New Jersey militia had not come to General Washington's call, they were carrying out their own campaign. They had remained near their homes to protect them from the British and especially the Hessian troops, who had quickly developed a reputation among the rebels for brutality and theft. The militia were soon taking advantage of the stretched British lines across New Jersey by carrying out regular raids on British patrols, stealing supplies and interfering with communications.



On December 22, 1776, General Washington had about 6,000 men listed in his roles having lost men on November 30 when their enlistments ran out. Of those, about 4,700 were fit for duty. His fall campaign had been little more than a series of retreats and morale was very low with the successive defeats and the loss of New York City. On December 31, more enlistments would run out and reduce his force to under 1,500 men. Winter was coming fast and the British would be able to continue their pursuit once the Delaware River froze over.

General Washington decided to attack the unsuspecting British forces who had entered winter quarters and were celebrating the holidays. He hoped to salvage a victory at the end of a disappointing campaign. He first wanted to attack the Hessians at Bordentown, but the local militia in that area was too weak to offer support. He then chose the isolated Hessian garrison under the command of Colonel Johann Rall. Rall had not heeded orders to build fortifications and send out patrols. Even though he was a skilled soldier and able commander, Rall had a low estimation of the rebels, calling them "country clowns." Washington planned for for an early morning attack on December 26. He knew the Hessians would heartily celebrate Christmas on the evening of December 25, so he meant to attack when they were tired and probably hungover.

The Battle: December 26, 1776


General George Washington ordered the crossing of the Delaware River to begin right after dark on Christmas Day, December 25, 1776. He wanted to be in position to launch his attack in the early morning hours. He expected the Hessian troops to have heartily celebrated Christmas and be drunk and tired when he attacked. A storm blew up and the men were forced to cross in the ice and snow, which slowed the crossing.



General Washington personally led 2,400 men, horses and eighteen cannon across the river the river at McKonkey's Ferry, which was nine miles above Trenton. He would then attack the town from the north. Brig. General James Ewing was to lead 1,000 militia at the Trenton Ferry and block a retreat to the south. Colonel John Cadwalader would lead 2,000 men, mostly militia, across the river at Bordentown and attack the garrison there as a diversion. However, with the storm, Ewing was unable to make it across, while Cadwalader was unable to bring his artillery and too late to be of any assistance.



General Washington's troops set out at 2 P.M. and began crossing atfter dark. The crossing was to be completed by 12:00 A.M., but the storm began at 11 P.M. and delayed completion of the crossing until 3:00 A.M. and the column was not fully ready to march until 4:00 A.M. The hoped for surprise attack in the early morning darkness was now impossible. However, Colonel Rall still felt unthreatened. Even with intelligence from Loyalists and American deserters having given away the day and hour of the attack, Rall did not know how large the attacking force would be.

At Birmingham, about four miles from their crossing, General Washington's force split into two columns. Maj. General Nathanael Greene led one column onto the Pennington Road to attack the garrison from the north. General Washington accompanied this column. Maj. General John Sullivan led the second column continued on the river road so it could attack the garrison from the west. By 6:00 A.M. the troops were miserable. Two men reportedly froze to death and muskets won't fire because of the cold, but Washington was committed and would not give up.

At the Hessian garrison in Trenton, Colonel Rall had passed out and was sound asleep along with most of his 1,200 man force, which was divided into three regiments: Knyphausen, Lossberg and Rall. They had sent out no patrols because of the severe weather. The weather had taken a toll on General Washington's troops, but had also given them cover. At 8:00 A.M. General Washington came upon a house about half a mile from Trenton where Hessian sentries were posted. The first shots were fired in the engagement. Only a few minutes later, General Sullivan's column routed the Hessian sentries at the outpost a half a mile west of Trenton.



Colonel Rall himself was slow to wake and dress because of the effects of the late night. The Hessians turned out quickly and formed up, but their attempts to attack to the north were hampered by the flanking fire from the western column and the artillery. The Americans positioned two cannon on a rise that guarded the two main routes out of town. The Hessians tried to bring four guns into action, but American fire kept them silent. Captain William Washington, cousin to General Washington, and Lieutenant James Monroe, future President of the United States, were wounded while capturing the Hessian guns.

The Knyphausen regiment of Hessians was separated from the other two regiments and driven back through the southern end of Trenton by Maj. General John Sullivan's column. Many men of this regiment were subsequently able to escape to the south where Brig. General James Ewing's troops were to have been located. The other two Hessian regiments, Lossberg and Rall, retreated into an open field and attempted a counterattack that was quickly driven back. Colonel Johann Rall ordered his force to retreat southeast into an apple orchard just outside Trenton. Only moments after giving the order, Rall was mortally wounded.



Once in the orchard, the Hessians formed up and attempted to make their way north to the road to Princeton. When they reentered the town, the Continentals now joined by civilians fired on them from buildings and other cover. Their formations were broken up by cannonfire. The two regiments retreat back to the orchard where they were forced to surrender.The remnants of the Knyphausen Regiment were making for Bordentown, but they were slowed when they tried to haul their cannon through boggy ground. They soon found themselves surrounded by General Sullivan's men and they also surrendered. It was only 9:30 A.M. and had been an overwhelming victory for General George Washington.






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Aftermath


No Americans had been killed during the battle, although as mentioned previously, two may have died from exposure. There had been only a handful of men wounded during the action. Meanwhile, 106 Hessians had been killed or wounded, at least 600 had been captured (depending on the source) and the rest had managed to escape. Following the battle, General George Washington had the captured men and supplies shipped across the Delaware River to Pennsylvania, then followed with his army at 12:00 P.M. By 12:00 P.M. on December 27, 1776, Washington's troops were back in their camp in Pennsylvania. 1,000 men in Washington's army reported as ill by the end of that day.


1. General Greene leads the main American force along Pennington Road.
2. General Sullivan leads the rest along River Road.
3. The American army lines up with the apex of the road as its center.
4. The first attack on the Hessians goes up King (Warren) Street.
5. The second wave goes up Queen (Broad) Street.
6. The Hessians surrender in an orchard.
7. About a third of the Hessians, however, escape over this bridge.


General Washington had succeeded in his goal. The victory lifted the morale of his army and was the first major victory against British Army regulars, even if they were Hessian troops. Continuing rumors had all the British and Hessian garrisons across New Jersey on alert for several days for an army that was nowhere near. When the Continental Congress heard of the victory, they had renewed confidence in their Commander-in-Chief and it bolstered enlistments and reenlistments for 1777. With his reenlistments, Washington was able to fight and win the Battle of Princeton, New Jersey on January 3, 1777, before he entered winter quarters at Morristown, New Jersey.



Today's Educational Sources and suggestions for further reading:
www.patriotresource.com/battles
1 posted on 02/28/2004 4:03:11 AM PST by snippy_about_it
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"Gen McDougall

Head Quarters, Newtown 28th December 1776.

I have yours of the 27th and am sorry that Affairs bore so bad an Aspect in your Quarter at that time. But I hope that the late Success at Trenton on the 26th and the Consequence of it, will change the face of Matters not only there but every where else. I crossed over to Jersey the Evening of the 25th about 9 miles above Trenton with upwards of 2000 Men and attacked three Regiments of Hessians consisting of fifteen hundred Men about 8 o'Clock next Morning. Our Men pushed on with such Rapidity that they soon carried four pieces of Cannon out of Six, Surrounded the Enemy and obliged 30 Officers and 886 privates to lay down their Arms without firing a Shot. Our Loss was only two Officers and two or three privates wounded. The Enemy had between 20 and 30 killed. We should have made the whole of them prisoners, could Genl. Ewing have passed the Delaware at Trenton and got in their Rear, but the ice prevented him. I am informed that Count Donnop with the remainder of the Army below Trenton, decamped immediately upon this News, and is on his march towards South Amboy. Generals Mifflin, Ewing and Cadwallader have already passed over to Jersey with a Capital Force and I shall follow with the Continental Regiments as soon as they have recovered from the late Fatigue which was indeed very great.

I hope you, Sir, GenI. Maxwell to whom I have wrote, Colo. Vose, Colo. Ford and every Gentleman who is well affected will exert themselves in encouraging the Militia and assuring them that nothing is wanting, but for them to lend a hand, and driving the Enemy from the whole province of Jersey

Pray watch the motions of the Enemy, and if they incline to retreat or advance, harass their Rear and Flanks But at all Events endeavour to collect a Body of men to be ready to join me, or act otherwise as occasion may be.

Your son was mentioned among the first of our prisoners that I demanded in Exchange, but Genl. Howe (or Mr. Loring in his Absence) Sent out others than those I demanded. I have remonstrated to him upon this head and have assured him that I will send in no more prisoners till he sends out the paroles of the Officers taken in Canada.

I am dear Sir
Your most obt Servt

G. Washington"

Trenton, and the followup victory at Princeton on 3 January 1777, caused the British to abandon their forward posts in New Jersey. By going into winter quarters at Morristown after the Battle of Princeton, Washington threatened supply lines and thereby swept the enemy from the state. Dwindling support for the cause of liberty was reversed, and strengthening of the diminished army ranks occured. Coupled with Benedict Arnold's action at Valcour island, the Americans were able to continue into the campaigns of 1777.

Aside from the obligatory reports to John Hancock as President of the Continental Congress, Washington is only known to have written eight letters describing in any detail this battle that changed the course of World History. All but the one above are in public institutions.


2 posted on 02/28/2004 4:03:49 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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'These country clowns cannot whip us...If the Americans come, we'll give them the bayonet.'

--Johann Rall,
Commander of the Hessian forces at Trenton


3 posted on 02/28/2004 4:04:18 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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A NEW FEATURE ~ The Foxhole Revisits...

The Foxhole will be updating some of our earlier threads with new graphics and some new content for our Saturday threads in this, our second year of the Foxhole. We lost many of our graphic links and this is our way of restoring them along with revising the thread content where needed with new and additional information not available in the original threads.

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The FReeper Foxhole Revisits The Battle of Trenton - 1776 - Dec. 26th, 2002



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4 posted on 02/28/2004 4:05:10 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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5 posted on 02/28/2004 4:05:54 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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6 posted on 02/28/2004 4:07:25 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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7 posted on 02/28/2004 4:14:33 AM PST by Aeronaut (Peace: in international affairs, a period of cheating between two periods of fighting.)
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8 posted on 02/28/2004 4:33:10 AM PST by E.G.C.
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9 posted on 02/28/2004 4:57:14 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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Good morning EGC. We had frost overnight, 25 degrees but the sun is out and we are supposed to be warming up. LOL. We'll see. Stay safe.
10 posted on 02/28/2004 4:58:15 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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That's yours right?

Yes, it is.

11 posted on 02/28/2004 5:10:08 AM PST by Aeronaut (Peace: in international affairs, a period of cheating between two periods of fighting.)
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On This Day In History


Birthdates which occurred on February 28:
1573 Elias Hill German architect/city builder (Augsburg)
1663 Thomas Newcomen English co-inventor (steam engine)
1750 Ignacy Potocki Polish foreign minister
1764 Robert Haldane Scottish theologist/philanthropist
1797 Mary Lyon US, educator (Mt Holyoke) (Hall of Fame)
1817 James Craig Brigadier General (Union volunteers), died in 1888
1820 John Tenniel England, cartoonist/illustrator (Alice in Wonderland)
1822 Matthew Duncan Ector Brigadier General (Confederate Army),died in 1879
1824 John Creed Moore Brigadier General (Confederate Army), died in 1910
1825 Quincy Adams Gillmore Major General (Union volunteers), died in 1888
1865 Sir Wilfred Grenfell England, medical missionary
1887 William Zorach Lithuania, US sculptor (Spirit of the Dance)
1890 Vaslav Nijinsky Kiev Ukraine, ballet dancer
1893 Ben Hecht New York NY, novelist/playwright/screenwriter (The Front Page)
1901 Linus Pauling chemist/peace worker (Nobel 1954, 1962)
1906 Bugsy Siegel gangster created casinos in Las Vegas
1907 Milton Caniff Hillsboro OH, Dutch cartoonist (Terry & the Pirates)
1908 Billie Bird Pocatello ID, actress (Mrs Cassidy-Benson, Dear John, Jury Duty)
1910 Vincente Minnelli Chicago IL, movie director (American in Paris, Gigi)
1911 Amir Hamzah Indonesian poet (Njanji Sunji)
1915 Zero [Samuel Joel] Mostel Brooklyn NY, actor (Fiddler on the Roof, The Producers)
1923 Charles Durning Highland Falls NY, actor (Dog Day Afternoon, Fury, Sting, Tootsie)
1928 Smokey The Bear
1930 Leon Cooper US physicist (Nobel 1972)
1931 Gavin MacLeod Mt Kisco NY, actor (Murray-Mary Tyler Moore, Love Boat)
1939 John Fahey singer (Transfiguration of Blind Joe Death)
1940 Joe South Atlanta GA, guitarist/songwriter/singer (Games People Play)
1942 Brian Jones rock guitarist (Rolling Stones-Brown Sugar)
1942 Frank Bonner Little Rock AR, actor (WKRP, Hoax, You Can't Hurry Love, Sidekicks)
1945 Charles "Bubba" Smith Texas, NFLer (Baltimore Colts)/actor (Police Academy)
1953 Ricky "Dragon" Steamboat [Richard Blood], wrestler (NWA/WWF/WCW/AWA)
1960 Dorothy Stratten Vancouver British Columbia, playmate (August, 1979) (Galixina)
1962 Rae Dawn Chong Edmonton Alberta, actress (Quest for Fire)


Deaths which occurred on February 28:
1638 Henri duc de Rohan, French soldier/Huguenot leader, dies
1781 Richard Stockton US attorney (signed Declaration of Independence), dies at 50
1844 Abel P Upshur Secretary of State, dies in explosion on USS Princeton
1844 Thommas W Gilmer Navy Secretary, dies in explosion on USS Princeton
1913 Elephant seal 6.8-m, 4000-kg, killed in South Georgia (South Atlantic)
1916 Henry James US/British writer (Bostonians), dies in London at 72
1931 Ban Johnson created (baseball's AL), dies after a long illness
1941 Alfonso XIII de Borbón King of Spain (1902-31), dies
1953 Jim Thorpe decathlete (Olympics-gold-1912), dies at 64
1966 Charles A Bassett II astronaut, dies in a crash of T-38 jet at 34
1966 Elliot McKay See Jr astronaut, dies in T-38 jet crash at 38
1968 Frankie Lymon singer, dies at 25
1977 Eddie "Rochester" Anderson comedian (Jack Benny Show), dies at 71
1978 Philip Ahn Los Angeles CA, actor (Master Kan-Kung Fu), dies at 66
1978 Eric Frank Russell sci-fi author (Hugo, Deep Space), dies at 73
1979 Mr Ed talking horse, dies
1986 Sven Olof Palme Swedish PM (1969-76, 82-86), assassinated at 59
1993 Ishiro Honda Japanese director/producer (Godzilla), dies at 81
1993 Ruby Keeler actress (42nd Street, Dames), dies of cancer at 82
1994 Elbert "Skippy" Williams tenor Sax player, dies at 77
1994 George Osborne Sayles historian, dies at 92


Reported: MISSING in ACTION
1967 MOORE JAMES RODNEY---ONTARIO NY.
1968 COONS HENRY A.---GERMANTOWN NY
1968 HUNT ROBERT W.---BECKLEY WV.
1968 STEGMAN THOMAS---CATONSVILLE MD.
1968 SCUITIER JAMES J.---SUMMIT NJ.
1969 LONG STEPHEN G.---CHILOQUIN OR.
[03/28/73 RELEASED BY PL, ALIVE AND WELL 98]
1970 BOYLE WILLIAM---WATROUS PA.

POW / MIA Data & Bios supplied by
the P.O.W. NETWORK. Skidmore, MO. USA.


On this day...
0870 8th Ecumenical council ends in Constantinople
1066 Westminster Abbey opens
1570 Anti-Portugese uprising on Ternate, Moluccas
1610 Thomas West, Baron De La Warr, is appointed governor of Virginia
1638 Scottish Presbyterians sign National Convenant, Greyfriars, Edinburgh
1646 Roger Scott was tried in Massachusetts for sleeping in church
1692 Salem witch hunt begins
1704 Elias Neau, a Frenchman, opens a school for blacks in New York NY
1704 Indians attack Deerfield MA, kill 40, kidnap 100
1708 Slave revolt, Newton, Long Island NY, 11 die
1749 1st edition of Henry Fieldings' "Tom Jones" published
1759 Pope Clement XIII allows Bible to be translated into various languages
1778 Rhode Island General Assembly authorizes enlistment of slaves
1784 John Wesley charters Methodist Church
1794 US Senate voids Pennsylvania's election of Abraham Gallatin
1810 1st US fire insurance joint-stock company organized, Philadelphia
1827 1st commercial railroad in US, Baltimore & Ohio (B&O) chartered
1844 12-inch gun aboard USS Princeton explodes
1847 US defeats México in battle of Sacramento

1854 Republican Party formally organized at Ripon WI

1859 Arkansas legislature requires free blacks to choose exile or slavery
1861 Territories of Nevada & Colorado created
1863 Confederate raider "Nashville" sinks near Fort McAllister GA
1864 Raid at Kilpatrick's Richmond
1864 Skirmish at Albemarle County Virginia (Burton's Ford)
1871 2nd Enforcement Act gives federal control of congressional elections
1879 "Exodus of 1879" southern blacks flee political/economic exploitation
1882 1st US college cooperative store opens, at Harvard University
1883 1st US vaudeville theater opens (Boston)
1893 Edward Acheson, Pennsylvania, patents an abrasive he names "carborundum"
1896 France dismisses Queen Ranavalona of Madagascar
1900 General Buller's troops relieve Ladysmith Natal
1908 Failed assassination attempt on Shah Mohammed Ali in Teheran
1913 6.8-m, 4000-kg elephant seal killed, South Georgia (South Atlantic)
1917 AP reports México & Japan will ally with Germany if US enters WWI
1924 US begins intervention in Honduras
1925 "Tea For Two" by Marion Harris hit #1
1929 Chicago Black Hawks lose record NHL 15th straight game at home
1931 Oswald Mosley founds his New Party
1933 1st female in cabinet Francis Perkins appointed Secretary of Labor
1933 German President Von Hindenburg abolishes free expression of opinion
1933 Hitler disallows German communist party (KPD)
1935 Nylon discovered by Dr Wallace H Carothers
1939 Great-Britain recognizes Franco-regime in Spain
1940 1st televised basketball game (college game at NYC's Madison Square Garden-University of Pittsburgh beats Fordham U, 50-37)
1940 Richard Wright's "Native Son" published
1940 US population at 131,669,275 (12,865,518 blacks (9.8%))
1942 Japanese land in Java, last Allied bastion in Dutch East Indies
1942 Race riot, Sojourner Truth Homes, Detroit
1943 63 U Boats (359,300 ton) sinks this month
1947 Anti Kuomintang demonstration on Taiwan
1951 Senate committee reports of at least 2 major US crime syndicates
1954 US performs atmospheric nuclear test at Bikini Island
1956 Forrester issued a patent for computer core memory
1960 US wins Olympics hockey gold medal by defeating Czechoslovakia 9-4
1961 JFK names Henry Kissinger special advisor
1970 Bicycles permitted to cross Golden Gate Bridge
1970 WUTR TV channel 20 in Utica-Rome NY (ABC) begins broadcasting
1971 53rd PGA Championship Jack Nicklaus shoots a 281 at PGA National to win his 2nd golf grand slam
1972 President Richard Nixon ends historic week-long visit to China
1974 US & Egypt re-establish diplomatic relations after 7 years
1977 1st killer whale born in captivity (Marineland, Los Angeles CA)
1981 China PR throws out Netherlands ambassador due to submarine sale to Taiwan
1982 AT&T looses record $7 BILLION for fiscal year ending on this day
1982 FALN (PR Terrorist Group) bombs Wall Street
1983 Final TV episode of "MASH" airs (CBS); record 125 million watch
1986 Peter Uberroth suspended 7 baseball players for 1 year, after they admitted in Curtis Strong's trial in September, they used drugs
1988 Anti-Armenian pogrom in Azerbaijan, 30 killed
1991 US & allied forces grant Iraq a cease fire
1993 Gun battle erupts at Waco TX between FBI & Branch Davidians
1994 Brady Law, imposing a wait-period to buy a hand-gun, went into effect
1997 FBI agent Earl Pitts pleads guilty to selling secrets to Russia
1998 Vancouver Canucks Mark Messier is 4th NHLer to get 1,600 points


Holidays
Note: Some Holidays are only applicable on a given "day of the week"

Finland : Kalevala Day (1835)
Luxembourg : Burgsonndeg-celebrates end of winter
US : Wine Appreciation Week Ends
Public Sleeping Day
Fiber Focus Month


Religious Observances
Christian : Feast of St Romanus
Roman Catholic : Commemoration of St Hilarius, pope (461-68), calendar reformer (non-leap years)
Roman Catholic : Commemoration of St Gabriel Possenti (leap years)


Religious History
1759 Pope Clement XIII granted permission for the Bible to be translated into the languages of the Roman Catholic states.
1784 English churchman John Wesley, 80, formally chartered the movement within Anglicanism which afterward came to be known as Wesleyan Methodism.
1873 The Society of Mary, founded in 1816, was officially recognized by Pope Pius IX. This religious order seeks to combine the work of education with foreign missions.
1947 U.S. Senate Chaplain Peter Marshall prayed: 'Let not the past ever be so dear to us as to set a limit to the future. Give us the courage to change our minds when that is needed.'
870 The Fourth Constantinople Council closed, under Pope Adrian II in the West and Emperor Basil I in the East. The council had condemned iconoclasm, and became the last ecumenical council held in the Eastern Mediterranean area.

Source: William D. Blake. ALMANAC OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH. Minneapolis: Bethany House, 1987.


Thought for the day :
"Coincidence is when God chooses to remain anonymous."


One Thing I Have Learned About Texas...
Fix-in-to is one word.


Beer Philosophy...
"Well, ya see, it's like this... A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo. And when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members. In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of alcohol, as we know, kills brain cells. But naturally, it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. That's why you always feel smarter after a few beers."


Astounding Fact #77,711...
Americans eat more bananas than any other fruit: a total of 11 billion a year.

I like bananas because they have appeal

12 posted on 02/28/2004 7:01:29 AM PST by Valin (America is the land mine between barbarism and civilization.)
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Cool, a Revolution thread! Howdy ma'am.
13 posted on 02/28/2004 7:11:48 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Americans~Proud Country Clowns since 1775.)
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1966 Charles A Bassett II astronaut, dies in a crash of T-38 jet at 34 1966 Elliot McKay See Jr astronaut, dies in T-38 jet crash at 38

Aim High


14 posted on 02/28/2004 7:37:40 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Americans~Proud Country Clowns since 1775.)
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Somehow I thought you'd like that. :-)

Good morning.
15 posted on 02/28/2004 7:41:44 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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AIR FORCE!!
16 posted on 02/28/2004 7:45:12 AM PST by Valin (America is the land mine between barbarism and civilization.)
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To: Valin
1970 Bicycles permitted to cross Golden Gate Bridge

The BicyclespankenTruppen attack!


17 posted on 02/28/2004 7:58:42 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Americans~Proud Country Clowns since 1775.)
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To: snippy_about_it
LOL. Thanks Snippy.
18 posted on 02/28/2004 8:00:00 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Americans~Proud Country Clowns since 1775.)
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To: snippy_about_it
Good Morning Snippy.
19 posted on 02/28/2004 8:03:27 AM PST by SAMWolf (I even have boring dreams...I fall asleep in my sleep!)
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To: Aeronaut
Morning Aeronaut. Your "cubicle"?
20 posted on 02/28/2004 8:04:07 AM PST by SAMWolf (I even have boring dreams...I fall asleep in my sleep!)
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To: Valin
AIR FORCE!!


21 posted on 02/28/2004 8:05:53 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Americans~Proud Country Clowns since 1775.)
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To: SAMWolf
Your "cubicle"?

How about my "work environment"?

22 posted on 02/28/2004 8:08:06 AM PST by Aeronaut (Peace: in international affairs, a period of cheating between two periods of fighting.)
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To: E.G.C.
Morning E.G.C. Keep your head down
23 posted on 02/28/2004 8:09:50 AM PST by SAMWolf (I even have boring dreams...I fall asleep in my sleep!)
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To: Valin
1928 Smokey The Bear

Did you know the cartoon Smokey Bear is based upon an actual baby black bear that was found alone, charred, and scared after a devastating wildfire burned through New Mexico?

One spring day in 1950 in the Capitan Mountains of New Mexico, an operator in one of the fire towers to the north of the Capitans spotted smoke and called the location into the nearest ranger station. The first crew discovered a major fire being swept along the ground between the trees, driven by a strong wind. Word spread rapidly and more crews reported to help. Forest Rangers, army soldiers, men from the New Mexico State Game Department, and civilian volunteers worked together to gain control of the raging fire. As soon as they contained the fire to one spot, the wind would push it across the lines. During one of the lulls in firefighting, a report of a lonely bear cub who had been seen wandering near the fireline was reported. The men left him alone because they thought the mother bear might come for him.

Several soldiers were caught directly in the path of the fire storm, barely escaping by laying face down on a rockslide for over an hour until the fire had burned past them. In spite of the experience, the firefighters were safe except for a few scorches and some burned holes in their cloths.

Nearby, the little cub had been caught in the path of the same fire and had not fared as well. He had taken refuge in a tree that was now nothing but a charred smoking snag. His climb had saved his life but left him badly burned on the paws and hind legs. The soldiers removed the little bear cub from the burned tree, but they did not know what to do with him. A rancher, who had been helping the firefighters, agreed to take the cub home. A New Mexico Department of Game and Fish Ranger heard about the cub when he returned to the fire camp and drove to the rancher's home to get the bear. The cub needed veterinary aid and was flown in a small plane to Santa Fe where the burns were treated and bandaged.

The news about the little bear spread swiftly throughout New Mexico. Soon the United Press and Associated Press picked up the story and broadcast it nationwide. Many people wrote or called to inquire about the little bear's progress. The State Game Warden wrote an official letter to the Chief of the Forest Service, presenting the cub to the agency with the understanding that the small bear would be dedicated to a publicity program of fire prevention and conservation. The go-ahead was given to send the bear to Washington, DC, where he found a home at the National Zoo, becoming the living symbol of Smokey Bear.

Not sure what the 1928 date has to do with Smokey the Bear. I am so confused

I like bananas because they have appeal

GROAN!!!!!

24 posted on 02/28/2004 8:18:56 AM PST by SAMWolf (I even have boring dreams...I fall asleep in my sleep!)
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To: Professional Engineer
Morning PE.
25 posted on 02/28/2004 8:19:17 AM PST by SAMWolf (I even have boring dreams...I fall asleep in my sleep!)
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To: snippy_about_it
Trenton, 26 December 1776

The winter of 1776 was the bleakest of what had become a War for Independence, a time that indeed "tried men's souls." The victorious British had driven General George Washington and his army of Continentals and militia from New York. Confident that the ill-clad and ill-fed Americans would fade away when enlistments expired at the year's end, General William Howe withdrew a major portion of his force from New Jersey to the comforts of Manhattan island. Washington realized his army's only chance of survival lay in a victory over the remaining scattered garrisons of the British and their Hessian mercenaries.

On Christmas evening Washington's ragged American army left its encampment and crossed the Delaware River in a driving sleet and snow storm. At dawn, 26 December 1776, the near-frozen Continentals surged into Trenton catching the Hessians, weary from the previous night's celebration, by surprise.

Colonel Johann Rall, the garrison commander, attempted to form a line of defense on King and Queen Streets with two regiments and the Knyphausen battery. Aware of Rall's plans, the Continentals, supported by General Henry Knox's artillery and heartened by the presence of Washington, overwhelmed the guns at a dead run. The loss of the artillery position caused Rall's regiments to withdraw. Their powder damp, deprived of artillery support, their commander mortally wounded, the surviving Hessians surrendered.

Bolstered by this success Washington was able to keep his army together for several more weeks during which time he again crossed the Delaware and won a victory over the British troops at Princeton. These two engagements assured the survival of a small core of Continentals and, in turn, the survival of the American cause of Independence.

In Defense of the Nation: Images of Our Army at War

26 posted on 02/28/2004 8:23:15 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Americans~Proud Country Clowns since 1775.)
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To: SAMWolf
Hiya Sam.
27 posted on 02/28/2004 8:24:37 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Americans~Proud Country Clowns since 1775.)
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To: Professional Engineer

28 posted on 02/28/2004 8:25:35 AM PST by SAMWolf (I even have boring dreams...I fall asleep in my sleep!)
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To: Aeronaut
work environment Sounds a whole lot better. :-)
29 posted on 02/28/2004 8:26:15 AM PST by SAMWolf (I even have boring dreams...I fall asleep in my sleep!)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; All

30 posted on 02/28/2004 8:27:22 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Americans~Proud Country Clowns since 1775.)
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To: SAMWolf
ROFLMAO!!!!
31 posted on 02/28/2004 8:28:56 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Americans~Proud Country Clowns since 1775.)
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To: Professional Engineer
Like that poster. :-)
32 posted on 02/28/2004 8:28:58 AM PST by SAMWolf (I even have boring dreams...I fall asleep in my sleep!)
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To: Professional Engineer
These two engagements assured the survival of a small core of Continentals and, in turn, the survival of the American cause of Independence.

It's amazing how close the Revolution came to failing a few times. But something always happened to keep it alive.

33 posted on 02/28/2004 8:30:43 AM PST by SAMWolf (I even have boring dreams...I fall asleep in my sleep!)
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To: Professional Engineer

The following is a description of the birth of the U.S. Army from Robert Wright, The Continental Army (Washington, D.C.: Center of Military History, 1983), pp. 23-24:

The June 14 date is when Congress adopted "the American continental army" after reaching a consensus position in The Committee of the Whole. This procedure and the desire for secrecy account for the sparseness of the official journal entries for the day. The record indicates only that Congress undertook to raise ten companies of riflemen, approved an enlistment form for them, and appointed a committee (including Washington and Schuyler) to draft rules and regulations for the government of the army. The delegates' correspondence, diaries, and subsequent actions make it clear that they really did much more. They also accepted responsibility for the existing New England troops and forces requested for the defense of the various points in New York. The former were believed to total 10,000 men; the latter, both New Yorkers and Connecticut men, another 5,000.

At least some members of Congress assumed from the beginning that this force would be expanded. That expansion, in the form of increased troop ceilings at Boston, came very rapidly as better information arrived regarding the actual numbers of New England troops. By the third week in June delegates were referring to 15,000 at Boston. When on 19 June Congress requested the governments of Connecticut, Rhode Island, and New Hampshire to forward to Boston "such of the forces as are already embodied, towards their quotas of the troops agreed to be raised by the New England Colonies," it gave a clear indication of its intent to adopt the regional army. Discussions the next day indicated that Congress was prepared to support a force at Boston twice the size of the British garrison, and that it was unwilling to order any existing units to be disbanded. By the first week in July delegates were referring to a total at Boston that was edging toward 20.000. Maximum strengths for the forces both in Massachusetts and New York were finally established on 21 and 22 July, when solid information was on hand. These were set, respectively, at 22,000 and 5,000 men, a total nearly double that envisioned on 14 June.

The "expert riflemen" authorized on 14 June were the first units raised directly as Continentals. Congress intended to have the ten companies serve as a light infantry force for the Boston siege. At the same time it symbolically extended military participation beyond New England by allocating 6 of the companies to Pennsylvania, 2 to Maryland, and 2 to Virginia. Each company would have a captain, 3 lieutenants, 4 sergeants, 4 corporals, a drummer (or horn player), and 68 privates. The enlistment period was set at one year, the norm for the earlier Provincials, a period that would expire on 1 July 1776.

Responsibility for recruiting the companies was given to the three colonies' delegates, who in turn relied on the county committees of those areas noted for skilled marksmen. The response in Pennsylvania's western and northern frontier counties was so great that on 22 June the colony's quota was increased from six to eight companies, organized as a regiment. On 25 June the Pennsylvania delegates, with authority from the Pennsylvania Assembly, appointed field officers for the regiment. Since there was no staff organization, company officers and volunteers performed the necessary duties. On 11 July delegate George Read secured the adoption of a ninth company that his wife's nephew had organized in Lancaster County. In Virginia Daniel Morgan raised one company in Frederick County, and Hugh Stephenson raised another in Berkeley County. Michael Cresap's and Thomas Price's Maryland companies were both from Frederick County. All thirteen companies were organized during late June and early July. They then raced to Boston, where their frontier attitudes created disciplinary problems.

Selection of Commanders

The inclusion of troops from outside New England gave a continental flavor to the army at Boston. A desire to broaden the base of support for the war also led John Adams to work for the appointment of a southerner as the commander of all the continental forces, raised, or to be raised, for the defense of American liberty. On 15 June Congress unanimously chose George Washington. Washington had been active in the military planning committees of Congress and by late May had taken to wearing his old uniform. His colleagues believed that his modesty and competence qualified him to adjust to the "Temper & Genius" of the New England troops. Washington was given the rank of General and Commander in Chief.

Congress clearly respected Washington, for it granted him extensive powers which combined functions of a regular British commander with the military responsibilities of a colonial governor. His instructions on 20 June told him to proceed to Massachusetts, "take charge of the army of the united colonies," and capture or destroy all armed enemies. His was also to prepare and to send to Congress an accurate strength return of that army. On the other hand, instructions to keep the army obedient, diligent, and disciplined were rather vague. The Commander in Chief's right to make strategic and tactical decisions on purely military grounds was limited only by a requirement to listen to the advice of a council of war. Within a set troop maximum, including volunteers, Washington had the right to determine how many men to retain, and he had the power to fill temporarily any vacancies below the rank of colonel. Permanent promotions and appointments were reserved for the colonial governments to make.

Although sectional politics were involved in Washington's selection, in strictly military terms he was in fact the best-qualified native American. He had begun his military career in 1752 in the Virginia militia as one of four regional adjutants responsible for training. During the first phase of the French and Indian War, he served with gallantry as Edward Braddock's volunteer aide at the battle of the Monongahela, and later as the commander of Virginia's two Provincial regiments defending the colony's frontiers. In 1758 he commanded a brigade composed of Virginia, Maryland, and Pennsylvania units on John Forbes' expedition against Fort Duquesne. Washington was the only American in that war to command so large a force. The experience of these years taught him the importance of discipline, marksmanship, and professional study. Exposure to Forbes' ideas on adapting European tactics to the American wilderness also contributed significantly to his military education. Above all, he came to the conclusion that only unyielding commitment to hard work and attention to administrative detail could keep troops in the field.

On 16 June, the day after Washington's appointment, Congress authorized a variety of other senior officers for its new army. Details were again settled by the Committee of the Whole. Positions for five major staff officers were established: an Adjutant General, a Commissary of Musters, a Paymaster General, a Commissary General, and a Quartermaster General. These officers were expected to assist the Commander in Chief with the administration of the "grand army." The forces allocated to New York already were considered a separate department and were authorized their own deputy quartermaster general and deputy paymaster general. A military secretary and 3 aides for Washington, a secretary for the separate department, and 6 engineers (3 for each force) completed the staff. Congress also created the ranks of major general and brigadier general. The number of generals remained uncertain for several days as Congress debated. Between 17 and 22 June it finally decided on 4 major generals, each having 2 aides, and 8 brigadier generals. These totals allowed each colony raising troops to have a share of the patronage. Congress then took steps for issuing paper money to finance the army, and on 30 June it adopted the Articles of War.

Selection of the subordinate generals and senior staff officers led to political maneuvering as delegates sought appointments for favorite sons. On 17 June Congress elected Artemas Ward and Charles Lee as the first and second major generals and Horatio Gates as the Adjutant General. Ward received seniority because he was in command at Boston and because Massachusetts had furnished the largest contingent of troops. Ward was a Harvard graduate with many years of political experience. After two years of active duty as a field officer in the French and Indian War, he had compiled an excellent record as a militia administrator. Lee and Gates were professional English officers in their forties who were living in Virginia on the half-pay (inactive) list. Both had served in the French and Indian War and were associates of politicians in England and America who opposed British policies. Lee had also seen service in Portugal and in the Polish Army. Gates had ended the Seven Years' War as a major in the Caribbean. His appointment as Adjutant General (with the rank of brigadier general) reflected Congress' hope that his staff experience would enable him to provide Washington with strong administrative assistance.

On 19 June two more major generals were appointed to satisfy other colonies' contributing large troop contingents. Philip Schuyler, a New York delegate with close ties to Washington, was expected to take command of the troops in his colony. A member of one of New York's leading families, the 42-year-old Schuyler had been a major in the French and Indian War, specializing in logistics. His experience, political connections, and extensive business interests in Albany were particularly valuable in his new command. Connecticut's delegation could not agree on a nominee for that colony's major general. In the end Israel Putnam's status as a folk hero outweighed consideration of seniority, and he received the appointment. Putnam, at 57, had seen extensive service in the French and Indian War, rising to the rank of lieutenant colonel. He had also been an early, vocal leader of the Connecticut Sons of Liberty. The process of selecting brigadier generals on 22 June was the product of a compromise. Congress allotted these appointments in proportion to the number of men contributed by each colony and followed the recommendations of the colony's delegates in the actual selection. Congress, however, created problems by ignoring seniority and status. When it elected Massachusetts' Seth Pomeroy, William Heath, and John Thomas as the first, fourth, and sixth brigadier generals, respectively, Thomas felt he had been slighted. The situation was resolved when Pomeroy declined the appointment, citing age, before Washington handed out the commissions. Congress then made Thomas the first brigadier general, although it did not fill the vacancy created by Pomeroy's withdrawal. Thomas, a surgeon militiamen, and former Provincial born in 1724, had gained combat experience primarily in medical roles. Heath, thirteen years younger, was strictly a product of the militia.

Richard Montgomery of New York became the second ranking brigadier general. Born in Ireland in 1738 and educated at Dublin's Trinity College, he had entered the British Army in 1756. After combat service in North America and in the Caribbean, he resigned in 1772 when he failed to receive a promotion to major. He moved to New York, married into the powerful Livingston family, and in 1775 won election to the New York Provincial Congress. Montgomery's appointment was intended to complement Schuyler's logistical and administrative skills with combat experience. David Wooster and Joseph Spencer of Connecticut became the third and fifth brigadier generals. Born in 1711 and educated at Yale, Wooster had served in Connecticut's navy during King George's War. He later commanded a regiment in the French and Indian War. Spencer, three years younger, had also served in both wars. The two men initially refused to serve under Putnam, disputing his seniority, and had to be coaxed into accepting their commissions. Delegate John Sullivan of New Hampshire, a 35-yearold lawyer, became the seventh brigadier general instead of Nathaniel Folsom. Nathanael Greene of Rhode Island completed the list.

In retrospect, the June 1775 decision of the Continental Congress to create the Continental Army seems remarkably free from political strife. Delegates of all shades of opinion supported each step, and arguments largely concerned technical details. Unanimity resulted from a conviction that British actions required defensive measures and from carefully worded compromises. Those individuals committed to the ideal of the citizen-soldier saw Congress' adoption of the short-term New England force as an acceptance of a yeoman army. Others, remembering practical lessons of the colonial wars, believed that they were forming an army based on the Provincial model. Officer selection was another area of compromise; the fact that Washington and Schuyler were given blank commissions from Congress to distribute to the regimental officers confirmed local selections while retaining a nominal national level of appointment.

34 posted on 02/28/2004 8:34:37 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Americans~Proud Country Clowns since 1775.)
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To: SAMWolf
It's amazing how close the Revolution came to failing a few times. But something always happened to keep it alive.

This is why I like to learn more about it. The more I learn, the greater respect I have for these men and women. We cannot forget what they have bequeathed to us and future generations. The @%%$#^^@^ democreeps are trying very hard to do so.

35 posted on 02/28/2004 8:38:01 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Americans~Proud Country Clowns since 1775.)
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To: SAMWolf
I thought you might. It's pretty cool.
36 posted on 02/28/2004 8:38:50 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Americans~Proud Country Clowns since 1775.)
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To: SAMWolf
I sure wouldn't want to run into this bunch!


37 posted on 02/28/2004 8:41:55 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Americans~Proud Country Clowns since 1775.)
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To: Professional Engineer
Fort Hood must have really impressed you. :-)
38 posted on 02/28/2004 8:41:59 AM PST by SAMWolf (I even have boring dreams...I fall asleep in my sleep!)
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To: Professional Engineer
The one thing that really bugs me is the effort by groups in this Country to try and tear down the Founders. They try to apply today's PC standards to them and want us to believe they were like the low-life career politicians of today. They concentrate on and point out their faults in efforts to demean the good they did.
39 posted on 02/28/2004 8:45:02 AM PST by SAMWolf (I even have boring dreams...I fall asleep in my sleep!)
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To: snippy_about_it
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. —John 3:16


One grace each child of God can show
Is giving from a willing heart;
Yet, if we wait till riches grow,
It well may be we'll never start

Because God gives us all we need, let's give to others in their need

40 posted on 02/28/2004 8:45:31 AM PST by The Mayor (And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?)
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To: The Mayor
Morning Mayor.
41 posted on 02/28/2004 8:51:39 AM PST by SAMWolf (I even have boring dreams...I fall asleep in my sleep!)
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To: Professional Engineer
If today's Press were covering the Revolution

Dark Hour for the Rebels

Washington's Recruits Go Home in One Week's Time

Latest in a Series of Misfourtunes
for the Continentals

Washington's Next Move????

Christmas week, 1776
Near Trenton, New Jersey

George Washington and his beleaguered Continental Army are spending a grim holiday season on the road. Four long months of harassment and battle with the British Army have left the 6,000 rebels tired, footsore and hungry. To make matters worse for Washington, he can expect more than half of his volunteers to drift home by the New Year, their enlistments up.

An evaporating army is just the latest in a long string of misfortunes to beset Washington. Since the signing of the Declaration of Independence in July, American forces have been mostly on their heels. The sobering sight of a huge British fleet in New York harbor in the wake of the celebration was the first indication that the road to American independence would be no promenade for the Continentals.

Washington and his troops were subsequently swept off Long Island, and chased the length of Manhattan. The disaster in New York was capped by American defeats at Forts Washington and Lee on the Hudson. The Continental Army has subsequently limped through New Jersey, on the road to its present encampment here on the Delaware River, close to nearby Trenton (see map, above), and a brigade of Hessians garrisoned there.

Through all of this, Washington supporters could be forgiven for wondering what Congress has been doing to relieve the abject condition of the army. While much criticism has been levelled at Washington's pitiful defense of New York, the general's friends insist that the current state of the army would be dramatically improved if Congress would put aside its bickering over the pros and cons of a standing army and find a way to keep the Continentals in the field.

Meanwhile observers are speculating that Washington will have to shelve his dream of a "European-style" army disciplined enough to effectively engage the British regulars in field combat. Already the sense is that new tactics are evolving. "Unless we are absolutely forced into," Washington wrote recently, "we shall avoid a large battle. With the fate of America at stake, our job is to prolong this war as much as possible."

Inspiration for the cause was recently provided by the brilliant pampleteerist Thomas Paine. Paine, who's essay "Common Sense" helped inspire the colonials to independence a year ago, recently penned another essay, "The Crisis," which Washington subsequently ordered read to his troops. Said to have been written on a drumhead, Paine's opening refrain has a stirring beat of its own: "These are the times that try men's souls. . ."

It is doubtful, however, whether Paine's words alone will be enough to invigorate the American cause. The sense here is that Washington needs to take a gamble. He desperately needs a victory to hold his troops together, and to keep the hopes of the revolution alive.

Meanwhile, the Hessian force across the Delaware is preparing a sumptuous Christmas feast . . .

www.pbs.org/ktca/liberty/ chronicle/episode3.html

42 posted on 02/28/2004 8:53:06 AM PST by SAMWolf (I even have boring dreams...I fall asleep in my sleep!)
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To: SAMWolf
Hiya Sam
43 posted on 02/28/2004 8:54:05 AM PST by The Mayor (And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?)
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To: Valin
I like bananas because they have appeal

*groan*

44 posted on 02/28/2004 8:58:30 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Professional Engineer
I should of known...
45 posted on 02/28/2004 8:59:28 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: SAMWolf
Fort Hood must have really impressed you. :-)

I think I've always been impressed by GI's in general. When I joined the military, I did so mainly as a way to do something more than work the counter at a store someplace. I didn't want to go to college, at that time.

Serving, I gained a huge appreciating for GI's, past present and future. I read histories, many on air power. The sense of duty, honer and sacrifice of American troops since 1775 is awe inspiring. Since separating, I missed the service in some ways. I know my life now is good, and wouldn't trade it.

Being around GI's kinda makes me all giddy in a way. Th trip to Ft Hood helped give me a "fix". Being around the folks in the Foxhole here is incredible. I don't interact with many veterans in my daily life. Being able to chat,trade war stories, etc. is a godsend. Being married to a veteran is wonderful as well.

Citizen soldiers are a special group. I am honored to be a member, and to associate with others, and supporters, who are as well.

46 posted on 02/28/2004 9:01:31 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Americans~Proud Country Clowns since 1775.)
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To: Professional Engineer
OOOOO. Excellent, thanks for the link.
47 posted on 02/28/2004 9:03:13 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it
Your manly man is in there. I spent considerable time looking for him, just for you.
48 posted on 02/28/2004 9:03:33 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Americans~Proud Country Clowns since 1775.)
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To: SAMWolf; Professional Engineer
Egads! The witch.


49 posted on 02/28/2004 9:12:05 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Professional Engineer
Hey, plug in some pictures with that and you'd have a thread. :-)

Will you get to go back to Fort Hood or have to do the rest of the work from the office?
50 posted on 02/28/2004 9:15:46 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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