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The FReeper Foxhole's TreadHead Tuesday - the Soviet T35 Heavy Tank - Jan. 18th, 2005
www.battlefield.ru ^ | Mark Jaremco

Posted on 01/17/2005 7:40:40 PM PST by SAMWolf



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T35 Heavy Tank




In December 1930, the USSR had undertaken work to develop a new breakthrough heavy tank, the T-30. This work began after the signing of an agreement between UMM RKKA and the General Design Bureau of the Artillery Department.

The first proposals were for a 50-ton vehicle armed with a 76-mm gun and five machine-guns. However, a lack of experience with such vehicles hampered the finishing of a plausible design - even on paper! At the beginning of 1932, the first sketches and a wooden prototype were created, but the T-30 project was canceled due to design problems (almost insuperable problems with running gear) which appeared during its development.


Prototypes of the T-35 (left) and the T-28 (right).


Another attempt was undertaken by the Auto-Tank-Diesel Section of the Economic department of the OGPU. This was a special section that employed tank designers convicted during the Purges. As in the previous case, this project had too many serious problems and was also abandoned.


The T-35-1 on parade in Moscow. May 1, 1933.


Only foreign specialists could get the project off the ground. In March 1930, a small group of German engineers led by Edward Grotte arrived in the USSR. This group was assigned to the Special Design Bureau AVO-5 in Leningrad in the "Bolshevik" Factory. AVO-5 had already worked on the TG-1 project. As far as I understand, the TG-1 was intended only to teach Soviet engineers how to develop a heavy vehicle, it was not intended as full-functional production vehicle. In August 1931, when the TG-1 was completed and tested all the German engineers were repatriated from the USSR. The AVO-5 was then reorganized.

The New design bureau was issued a directive by UMM RKKA: "By 1 August 1932, a new 35-ton heavy tank based on the TG-1 must be developed and built." The new project received the "T-35" designation. On February 28, 1932, G.G. Bokis (Deputy Chief of the UMM RKKA) was reporting to M.N. Tukhachevsky: "The work on the T-35 is going briskly, and should be completed on time."

On August 20, 1932, assembly of the very first prototype under the T-35-1 designation had been completed, and on September 1, it was shown to a special commission of the UMM RKKA. The tank made an impression on all the members of the commission. Outwardly, the T-35 looked like the English A1E1 "Independent" five-turret tank. Many people believe that the T-35 was copied from the "Independent", however, the Russian Archives have no documents, which can confirm such conjecture. Without such documents, we have no right to suspect Russian developers; the question is still open.


The T-35A on trials.


The main turret was supposed to be armed with a powerful 76.2 mm PS-3 tank gun and one DT machine-gun, but because of a lack of PS-3 guns, a dummy gun was mounted instead. Later, the shortage of PS-3s remained, and the 76.2 mm KT Tank Gun used instead.

The transmission of the T-35-1 had been developed with experience gleaned from the TG-1. It consisted of the M6 petrol engine, the main friction clutch, the gearbox and side clutches. Driving the tank was quite easy due to a well-designed pneumatic system.


The running gear of the T-35A tank


Tests conducted in the autumn of 1932 revealed some defects in the transmission. Moreover, it was too complex and expensive for mass production, and all work on the T-35-1 had been canceled and the vehicle sent to Leningrad as a study aid for tank corps trainees.

In February 1933, new work on the T-35-2 began. As per Stalin's order, standardization of tank turrets for the T-28 and T-35 was implemented. On the T-35-2 the new M-17 tank engine, a new gearbox, and an improved transmission were installed. All other parts were the same as on the T-35-1. This tank was also intended to be arm with the 76.2 mm PS-3 gun. The vehicle was completed in April 1933, and on May 1, it was shown on military parade in Leningrad while the T-35-1 was shown on parade in Moscow.


The T-35-2 on parade in Moscow. November 7, 1933.


Both the T-35-1 and the T-35-2 were prototypes. Almost simultaneously, the first production model, the T-35A, was developing using experience from these prototypes. In May 1933, the Soviet Government ordered mass production at the KhPZ Factory. All documents and the T-35-2 prototype were sent here.

The T-35A had many changes, which distinguished it from its predecessors. The new vehicle had a longer chassis, smaller turrets, an improved hull, and some other alterations. In essence, it was a new vehicle, and so it had some teething troubles during its manufacture. I wish to notice, each T-35 was unique, since minor improvements were made in every tank, and therefore they were not true production vehicles because they didn't pronouncedly follow the base blueprints.

Different parts of the T-35 manufactured at different factories:

  • Armored hulls at the Izhorskij Factory;
  • Gearboxes at the "Krasnij Oktyabr" Factory
  • Engines at the Rybinskij Factory.

The first production T-35A on parade in Moscow. May 1, 1934.


According to the production plan, all these factories should have started manufacture in June 1933, but due to unforeseen problems, they began in August 1933. Final assembly began on October 18, 1933, and was finished on November 1. The final assembly was usually aided by using hydraulic lifting jacks, but in this case, the hull was placed on an elevated assembly jig in order to install the final components such as the running gear, turret, and armament.

The first production T-35A was put on parade in Moscow on May 1, 1934. Per a Governmental order of October 25, 1933, the KhPZ had to complete five T-35A tanks and one T-35B (with an M-34 engine) before January 1, 1934, but up to this date only one vehicle had been fully completed. The other three T-35A's were still unarmed, and the manufacture of the T-35B had not even started. The T-35B project was later abandoned at all.


Sectors of fire of the T-35A


The production of the T-35A was extremely expensive: a single tank cost 525,000 rubles - as much as nine BT-5 light tanks. This was a definitive reason why its manufacture was cancelled.

According to the plan of 1934, the KhPZ had to produce ten vehicles (T-35A). During production, the factory made some changes to cut production costs. However, factory engineers met with many problems. For instance, the tracks of the tank were too fragile, and the M-17 engine often overheated. The first vehicle had to be completed on August 20, 1934, but was not. However, the KhPZ built ten by the very end of 1934.



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The T-35A Heavy Tank


In 1937, the T-35 was modernised. Its gearbox, side clutches, electrical equipment, the drive shaft, and the oil tank were improved. In addition, engine silencers were installed inside the vehicle. Due to these changes, the reliability of the T-35 increased greatly.

However, the armor protection of the T-35 did not meet the demands of modern warfare, but because the vehicle was already too heavy, it was unrealistic to increase its armor any more.

In 1937, the KhPZ began a plan to convert the T-35 to conical turrets. Production of the new tanks began at the end of 1938. According to KhPZ's records, total five tanks received conic turrets. Total production included one T-35-1, one T-35-2, and 61 production vehicles. The T-35 was the only production five-turret tank in the world.


The T-35 with conic turrets.


The layout of the T-35 was optimal for a multi-turret vehicle. Five turrets were set up in two tiers and provided high firepower with one 76.2 mm gun, two 45 mm 20K guns, and three machine-guns. However, such a layout resulted in an excessive vehicle height (about 3.5 metres) and decreased its mobility on the battlefield.

In addition, the T-35 still had many problems with its engine and transmission. Unfortunately, these defects weren't fully eliminated, but Soviet tankers still held this vehicle in high regard.


The Russian "Crocodile".

Outwardly, the T-35 was visually stunning with its huge dimensions, however its internal space was very cramped. When I visited Kubinka I was unable to get inside the T-35 (I'm 192 cm). The separate combat compartments were not connected with each other. Visibility from the vehicle was very bad, especially from the driver's position (he could see straight ahead and left only). However, the greatest problem was egress from a knocked out tank because the crew could escape only from roof hatches, and the crew from the main turret had to expose themselves at a 4-metre height under enemy fire.

The driver was in an even worse situation: his hatch could not been opened until the machine-gun turret rotated out of the way. If this turret was jammed, the driver couldn't escape at all. Escape from the rear turrets was also difficult due to the rounded antenna on the main turret. The tank crew could become "prisoners" of their own tank. The first production T-35's were sent to the 5th Heavy Tank Regiment RGK. On December 12, 1935, this regiment was reorganized into the 5th Separate Heavy Tank Brigade.


The T-35 and the T-26 from the 8th Mechanized Corps, abandoned at Dubno area. July 1941.


The brigade consisted of three Tank Battalions, one Training Tank Battalion, and some support units. On May 12, 1936, under the order of the Defense Minister, this brigade was attached to RGK. The unit was formed to increase the support of infantry and tank troops during breakthroughs of heavily-fortified defense lines.

Deployment of the T-35 revealed its poor maneuverability. For example, one T-35 commander reported: "The tank was able to pass only a 17 degree slope. It couldn't even traverse a large puddle."

The following directive was addressed to the headquarters of the 3rd Heavy Tank Brigade RGK and regulated the crossing of bridges:

  1. For single-span bridges - only one vehicle at a time
  2. For multi-span bridges - several vehicles at the same time but with distance of 50 metres between them
  3. In all cases, the speed of the tank should not exceed 15 km/h.

A captured T-35. July 1941.


Before the Great Patriotic War, the T-35 didn't take part in any military conflicts. Any mention in Western (and some Russian) accounts about T-35's that served in the Winter War are false.

On 27 June 1940, a conference opened in Moscow: "On Weapons of AFVs of the Red Army." During debates, a question concerning the T-35 had arisen. Some officers thought that all T-35's should be converted to heavy self-propelled artillery (like the SU-14), others wanted to give all the T-35's to military academies. Interesting, almost nobody raised an opinion to keep them as vehicles of the first line.


The T-35A on its way to the front. Moscow area. October 22, 1941.


However, due to the active reorganization of tank forces of the Red Army, and the formation of the new mechanized corps, it was decided that these vehicles "should be depleted by attrition in operational units." As a result, all vehicles were collected in the 67th and 68th Tank Regiments of the 34th Tank Division of the 8th Mechanized Corps (Kiev Special Military District).

Today, only one T-35 survives. It is on display in the Kubinka tank museum.


The T-35-1 heavy tank in parade colors. May 1, 1933.



T-35A in standard camouflage of 1930th. 3rd vehicle, 1st Tank Platoon, 3rd Tank Battalion, 5th Heavy Tank Brigade. 1936.



T-35A in standard winter camouflage. Military Academy of Mechanization and Motorization Tank Regiment. Winter 1941.

1 posted on 01/17/2005 7:40:45 PM PST by SAMWolf
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Brief Operational History


The T-35 heavy tank was a vehicle that had its origins in the 1920's British school of tank warfare. According to this theory, there were to be three types of tanks - infantry support tanks, cruiser tanks, and land battleship tanks. The T-35 fell into the latter category. It shared still more with the British concepts in that its designers got many of their ideas for the T-35 from the Vickers 'Independent' heavy tank. The T-35 actually surpassed the 'Independent' and would see full production, whereas the British vehicle would not make it past the testing stage.


T-35 mod. 1935 (turret with straight sides) captured by the Germans during the first month of the invasion of Russia


It would be armed with a single large turret (taken from the T-26) mounting a 45mm cannon, and four smaller turrets (taken from the BT-2 fast tank) that would have either 7.62mm machine guns or 37mm cannon. Later models would have conical turrets for better protection. They would also be slightly longer than the earlier versions.

Production of the T-35 vas very slow and few of these tanks were produced at the Kharkov Locomotive Factory. Total production between 1935 and 1938 amounted to no more that 68 vehicles. These would serve with the 5th Heavy Tank Brigade stationed around Moscow. Tanks from this unit would be featured in many May Day parades where they gave the false impression of a powerful armored force.


This view from above demonstrates the turret arrangement on the T-35. The 76.2 mm howitzer is in the centre turret and the 37 mm guns are diagonally opposite each other in the front right and rear left turrets. The two machine gun turrets are on the front left (not visible) and rear right.


These tanks only saw action during the opening days of the Great Patriotic War. The exact location of where they served is uncertain at present. There is evidence that they were used around Lvov and many sources claim that they were used around Moscow. In either case, none would survive the first year of the war. It would be a sad ending for a tank whose time had come and gone.

Tactical Use and Limitations


Originally the T-35 heavy tank was designed as a 'penetration tank' that would blast its way through heavily defended parts of the enemy line and conduct a firefight on all sides. In this way it would act as a 'land battleship' that would outgun any armored opposition it faced, at least in theory.



The T-35 heavy tank saw very little combat action. This was because so few were made and its disadvantages far outweighed its abilities. The first limitation was its poor maneuverability. Its great weight and length made it both slow and difficult to steer under combat conditions. Its tremendous size also made it a rather large target. Unfortunately, the armor of the T-35 was so thin that it could not survive the hits that it was sure to take.

The massive tank was not without its advantages however. It did possess a formidable armament of cannon and machine guns. The problem with these weapons lay in coordinating the fire of the five turrets, a difficult task at best.

Additional Sources:

mailer.fsu.edu
www.russianwarrior.com
www.tracks-n-troops.com
users.swing.be
www.soviet-empire.com
www.shift.sk

2 posted on 01/17/2005 7:41:29 PM PST by SAMWolf (Anarchy: Rights without Responsibilities.)
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Vickers A1E1 Independent



British: A1E1 "Independent" Heavy Tank


One of the most famous tanks never produced in the world. The Independent caused a stir everywhere. Like the famous battleship Dreadnought, this tank caused a revolution in heavy tanks with it's multi-turreted design. Not only were nations envious and wanted one of their own for prestige, but it caused panic with money conscious politicians, and a research in battlefield tactics. The idea of this tank was a coupling of heavy firepower, the ability to defend, and a total dominance of the area within it's range. The vehicle was built in 1925 and only a lack of funds stopped it from becoming part of the British army. Only one was ever built, but lessons learned from this design assisted future armored vehicles. Producers of multi-turreted tanks were Germany, USSR, Japan, and Great Britain. The USSR, who's motto could have been "just add more steel", built the monsterous T28 and T35 tanks which were nearly a virtual copy of the Independent. Nations that considered building them (had plans but stopped just short of building) were Poland, USA, and France.


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5 posted on 01/17/2005 7:45:38 PM PST by Soaring Feather
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6 posted on 01/17/2005 7:48:19 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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Have to admit I like the large number of weapons on a T-35. Would make them very effective in an urban setting. Contrast that to the single .50 or 40MM on the Stryker or M113.


7 posted on 01/17/2005 7:48:50 PM PST by ProudVet77 (I'm ready for some NASCAR!)
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Time for you two to crash for the night.

Been a long day for ya.


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10 posted on 01/17/2005 9:40:46 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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148 posted on 08/24/2004 11:39:45 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)

Good morning Cannoneer, I'm awake just long enough to post, 'see' you in the morning. :-)
11 posted on 01/17/2005 9:42:55 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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Good morning y'all!

To all our military men and women past and present, military family members, and to our allies who stand beside us
Thank You!


12 posted on 01/17/2005 9:50:26 PM PST by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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Tuesday already!

Praise the Lord!


13 posted on 01/17/2005 9:52:22 PM PST by Valin (Sometimes you're the bug, and sometimes you're the windshield)
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14 posted on 01/17/2005 9:54:12 PM PST by Valin (Sometimes you're the bug, and sometimes you're the windshield)
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Fascinating Bump for Soviet Armor from the night shift. Only two more nights to go, yeahhhhhh.

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


15 posted on 01/17/2005 10:01:34 PM PST by alfa6 (Squirrel: a rat with a bushy tail)
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Always liked the Independent and T-35. As I grew older I began to see their inherent weaknesses. Also, their Russian junk parts.

Unless I am mistaken the photo "The Russian Crocodile" has grotesquely worn front sprockets, so badly worn I can't see how you could keep the tracks on for a minute if the rest of the system is equally worn.
16 posted on 01/18/2005 12:21:30 AM PST by Iris7 (.....to protect the Constitution from all enemies, both foreign and domestic. Same bunch, anyway.)
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Good morning Snippy.


17 posted on 01/18/2005 1:48:02 AM PST by Aeronaut (Proud to be a monthly donor.)
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I am not happy with urban armor either. A few thoughts, starting with oldy but goldy M113:

This gun is rated against main battle tanks at over 1000 yards.

Active armor, "Zelda 2", an explosive reactive armor suite:

"Zelda", a spaced array passive system proof against RPG and 23 mm APCBC Russian ammunition:

This is Kasman", designed for urban warfare:

The Kasman is a M113 equipped with an all new fixed superstructure, spanning both roof hatches of the Zelda. The superstructure is lavishly equipped with vision blocks made of armoured glass as well as six firing slots, one up front, one in the rear and two on each side. The firing slots are capable of taking up an FN MAG 7,62 mm machine gun.

The two vision blocks and the firing slot in the rear of the superstructure are placed in a hatch which can be opened downward. Two searchlights are placed on the superstructure's roof and can be operated from within the vehicle. Another option is the placement of a megaphone on top of the superstructure for psychological warfare.

The internal fuel tank has been removed and replaced by two external fuel tanks on the rear of the vehicle. This is to serve crew safety.

Recently, an improved version of the Kasman has appeared. This vehicle has a shallower superstructure with angled sides and protrusions for the firing slots. Furthermore, the number of vision blocks is reduced and the dimensions of the superstructure have been considerably reduced as well. The vehicle, of which the exact designation is unknown at the moment, is equipped with IS-10 grenade discharges with CL-3030 smoke grenades.

18 posted on 01/18/2005 1:58:44 AM PST by Iris7 (.....to protect the Constitution from all enemies, both foreign and domestic. Same bunch, anyway.)
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The kasman appears to be a mobile pillbox. That would seem an improvement over the 1 .50 cal on the M113A3. Only question is that it looks like you could only get 2 maybe 3 guns working in the turret and at that it would be cramped. I'd like to see something thats 2 (or more) turrets of the type used on the AAVP7. It has a .50 and a MK19 40MM grenade launcher in the same turret.

19 posted on 01/18/2005 2:52:59 AM PST by ProudVet77 (I'm ready for some NASCAR!)
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Good morning, snippy and everyone at the foxhole.


20 posted on 01/18/2005 3:03:55 AM PST by E.G.C.
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Good morning..it's cold here this morning...25 degrees and not going to warm up much. Time for the coffee pot


21 posted on 01/18/2005 4:35:29 AM PST by GailA (Glory be to GOD and his only son Jesus.)
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Morning Feather. First one in today. :-)


22 posted on 01/18/2005 4:47:24 AM PST by SAMWolf (Anarchy: Rights without Responsibilities.)
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Morning Victoria.

Time flies when yo have jet lag. ;-)


23 posted on 01/18/2005 4:48:06 AM PST by SAMWolf (Anarchy: Rights without Responsibilities.)
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To: ProudVet77

Morning ProudVet77.

More firepower is always a good thing. :-)


24 posted on 01/18/2005 4:49:48 AM PST by SAMWolf (Anarchy: Rights without Responsibilities.)
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Morning Echo Talon.

Mice picture. It's now my background. :-) Thanks


25 posted on 01/18/2005 4:51:10 AM PST by SAMWolf (Anarchy: Rights without Responsibilities.)
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Morning Radu.


26 posted on 01/18/2005 4:51:46 AM PST by SAMWolf (Anarchy: Rights without Responsibilities.)
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Morning alfa6.

Then you return to the land of the daytime posters?


27 posted on 01/18/2005 4:52:43 AM PST by SAMWolf (Anarchy: Rights without Responsibilities.)
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Morning Iris7.

The T-35 looked impressive, just wasn't very practical.


28 posted on 01/18/2005 4:54:21 AM PST by SAMWolf (Anarchy: Rights without Responsibilities.)
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To: Aeronaut

Morning Aeronaut.


29 posted on 01/18/2005 4:54:43 AM PST by SAMWolf (Anarchy: Rights without Responsibilities.)
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To: Iris7

We could learn a lot from the Israelis about Urban fighting vehicles.


30 posted on 01/18/2005 4:56:14 AM PST by SAMWolf (Anarchy: Rights without Responsibilities.)
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Morning E.G.C.

Looks like we missed an ice storm in Portland over the weekend. :-)


31 posted on 01/18/2005 4:57:18 AM PST by SAMWolf (Anarchy: Rights without Responsibilities.)
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Morning GailA.

It was 27 in Atlanta yesterday morning. HAd to remind myself we were in the South. ;-)


32 posted on 01/18/2005 4:58:16 AM PST by SAMWolf (Anarchy: Rights without Responsibilities.)
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To: SAMWolf

Aye Laddie, I'll be back to days after Thursday night, I can't wait.

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


33 posted on 01/18/2005 5:01:00 AM PST by alfa6 (Squirrel: a rat with a bushy tail)
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Good morning, folks.

The dentist appointment went off without a hitch. Except for a few areas which need improvement, I'm doing fine overall. My next appointment is in May.

Nice weather through the week. Going up into the 60's tommorow.

How's it going, Snippy?

34 posted on 01/18/2005 5:13:50 AM PST by E.G.C.
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January 17, 2005

What God Can Do

Read: 2 Corinthians 1:3-11

[God] delivered us from so great a death, and does deliver us; in whom we trust that He will still deliver us. —2 Corinthians 1:10

Bible In One Year: Exodus 5-7


They were called the "lost boys" of Sudan. Thousands of them fled the civil war in that country and sought refuge from the chaos and killing. Many had been taught the gospel in churches founded by missionaries, but they knew little of the world beyond their villages.

A National Geographic article profiled one of these "lost boys" who is now resettled in the United States. He told a church congregation that he is grateful for the comforts of the US, but also for the faith he learned through hardship. "Americans believe in God," he told them, "but they don't know what God can do."

In the crucible of testing, we move from theory to reality as we experience God's power. When there seems to be no hope, we may share Paul's feeling of being "burdened beyond measure, above strength, so that we [despair] even of life" (2 Corinthians 1:8). But we can also learn, as Paul did, that in the darkest times "we should not trust in ourselves but in God who raises the dead" (v.9).

If God has allowed you to be in a desperate situation today, why not reconsider all that the Almighty has done and can still do. By trusting God in hardship we learn what He can do in our lives. —David McCasland

Though weak and helpless in life's fray,
God's mighty power shall be my stay;
Without, within, He gives to me
The strength to gain the victory. —D. De Haan

God is the only ally we can always count on.

35 posted on 01/18/2005 5:26:43 AM PST by The Mayor (God is the only ally we can always count on.)
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To: All
Boy did I mess up, sorry!

January 18, 2005

Tight Lines

Read: Matthew 4:18-20

Always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear. —1 Peter 3:15

Bible In One Year: Exodus 8-10


Fishermen sometimes bestow this blessing on one another: "May you keep a tight line," by which we mean, "May you always have a trout on your line."

As I've gotten older, however, I must confess that a tight line means less to me now than it once did. I get as much enjoyment from fishing as I do from catching.

When I'm fishing, I have more time to walk streamside and enjoy the solitude and silence, and to look for places where fish might be lurking. When I try too hard to catch, I lose too many fish and the enjoyment of the day.

Jesus calls us to be fishers of men, not catchers (Matthew 4:19). My job is to go where the fish are, walk among them, study their habitat, and learn their ways. And then to toss out a line and see if one rises to the surface. There's more enjoyment in that easy effort, and I have better results.

So I want to fish for people, looking for opportunities to speak a word about Jesus, casting here and there, and leaving the results with God. It's more calming for me and for the fish—the folks who might get spooked by my clumsiness.

Thus I now bless my fellow fishers with: "May you keep your line in the water." Or, as another fisherman once put it, "Always be ready" (1 Peter 3:15). —David Roper

White are the fields for the harvest,
Workers are all too few;
Souls are awaiting the message—
Christ still depends on you. —Anon.

When you fish for souls, cast your nets in faith and draw them in with love.

36 posted on 01/18/2005 5:32:49 AM PST by The Mayor (God is the only ally we can always count on.)
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To: snippy_about_it; bentfeather; Samwise; msdrby; SAMWolf; colorado tanker; Colonel_Flagg; ...
Good morning ladies and gentlemen. Flag-o-gram (with SpankenTruppen recruits).


37 posted on 01/18/2005 6:24:25 AM PST by Professional Engineer (I don't need no steekin' microchip jockeys.)
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To: alfa6

How long on days before you go back to nights?


38 posted on 01/18/2005 6:32:39 AM PST by SAMWolf (Anarchy: Rights without Responsibilities.)
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To: The Mayor

Morning Mayor.


39 posted on 01/18/2005 6:33:13 AM PST by SAMWolf (Anarchy: Rights without Responsibilities.)
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To: The Mayor

You liked Monday so much you wanted to do it over? ;-)


40 posted on 01/18/2005 6:33:52 AM PST by SAMWolf (Anarchy: Rights without Responsibilities.)
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To: Professional Engineer

Morning PE.

They can join anytime they want. :-)


41 posted on 01/18/2005 6:34:27 AM PST by SAMWolf (Anarchy: Rights without Responsibilities.)
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To: SAMWolf

I have gotten so use to getting the update at night and posting it in the Canteen.
I went to bed early so I didn't do it.

This morning I just posted and didn't realise it till I stopped to read it. ooops!


42 posted on 01/18/2005 6:40:38 AM PST by The Mayor (God is the only ally we can always count on.)
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To: SAMWolf

On This Day In History


Birthdates which occurred on January 18:
1726 Hendrik prince of Prussia/diplomat
1779 Peter Roget thesaurus fame/inventor (slide rule, pocket chessboard)
1782 Daniel Webster Salisbury NH, orator/politician/lawyer
1809 Richard Caswell Gatlin Brigadier General (Confederate Army), died in 1896
1813 Joseph Farwell Glidden inventor (1st commercial usable barbed wire)
1815 James Chesnut Jr Brigadier General (Confederate Army), died in 1885
1820 Abraham Buford Brigadier General (Confederate Army), died in 1884
1831 Edward Ferrero Brevet Major General (Union volunteers), died in 1899
1854 Thomas A Watson needed by Bell, inventor assistant (Telephone)
1857 Otto von Below German commandant (WWI)
1880 Paul Ehrenfest Austria/Netherlands physicist (adiabates hypothesis)
1882 A A Milne English author (Winnie-the-Pooh)
1892 Oliver Hardy Harlem GA, comedy team member (Laurel & Hardy)
1904 Cary Grant England, actor (Arsenic & Old Lace, North by Northwest)
1908 Jacob Bronowsky British mathematician/cultural historian
1913 Danny Kaye Brooklyn NY, UNICEF/comedian/actor (Danny Kaye Show)
1932 Robert Anton Wilson US, sci-fi author (Trick Top Hat)
1933 John Boorman producer/director (Exorcist II, Deliverance, Zardoz)
1933 Ray Dolby sound expert/inventor (Dolby noise limiting system)
1941 Bobby Goldsboro Marianna FL, singer (Honey)
1941 David Ruffin Mississippi, vocalist (Temptations-Papa Was a Rolling Stone)
1948 Takeshi Kitano Tokyo Japan, actor (Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence)
1955 Kevin Costner Los Angeles CA, actor (Fandango, Silverado, Bull Durham, Waterworld)
1958 Jeffrey N Williams Superior WI, Major Army/astronaut
1981 Kimberly Gloudemans Miss California Teen-USA (1997)
1981 Latoya Farley Miss Oklahoma Teen-USA (1996)






Deaths which occurred on January 18:
1367 Pedro I king of Portugal (1357-67), dies at 46
1666 Adriaen A Bloemaert Dutch landscape painter, dies at about 56
1677 John A van Riebeeck Dutch founder Cape Colony, dies at 57
1730 Peter II czar of Russia (1727-30), dies at 14
1862 John Tyler 10th US President (1841-45), dies in Richmond VA at 71
1921 Adolf von Hildebrand German sculptor, dies at 73
1923 Wallace Reid actor (Birth of a Nation), dies at 31

1936 Rudyard Kipling author (Gunga Din, Nobel 1907), dies in Burwash England at 70

1954 Sydney Greenstreet actor (Conflict, Maltese Falcon), dies at 74
1967 Harry Antrim actor (Ma & Pa Kettle), dies of heart attack at 83
1967 Reese "Goose" Tatum basketballer (Harlem Globetrotters), dies at 45
1978 Carl Betz actor (Alex Stone-Donna Reed Show), dies at 56
1984 Malcolm H Kerr 9th president of American University of Beirut, shot dead
1985 Mahmoud Taha Sudanese Moslem leader, hanged at 76
1991 Nita Krebs actor (Munchkin-Wizard of Oz), dies of heart attack at 85
1996 Minnesota Fats [Rudolf Wanderone Jr], billiard hustler, dies at 82
1997 Paul Tsongas (Senator-D-MA), dies at 55




Reported: MISSING in ACTION

1964 METOYER BRYFORD G.---OAKDALE LA.
1964 STRALEY JOHN L.---BEAVER FALLS PA.
1967 MADSEN MARLOW E.---MINNEAPOLIS MN.
1968 BOLES WARREN W.---MARBLEHEAD NECK MA.
1968 HINCKLEY ROBERT B.---SPRINGFIELD ME.
[03/14/73 RELEASED BY DRV, ALIVE IN 98]
1968 JONES ROBERT C.---MADISON NJ.
[03/14/73 RELEASED BY DRV, ALIVE AND WELL 98]
1968 ROEHRICH RONALD L.---SPRINGDALE AR.
1968 SMITH WAYNE O.---LOUISVILLE KY.
[/14/73 RELEASED BY DRV, ALIVE AND WELL 98]
1968 SIMONET KENNETH A.---CHICAGO IL.
[03/14/73 RELEASED BY DRV]
1969 COADY ROBERT F.---NEW ORLEANS LA.

POW / MIA Data & Bios supplied by
the P.O.W. NETWORK. Skidmore, MO. USA.




On this day...
0336 St Mark begins his reign as Catholic Pope
0350 General Maxentius drives out Western Roman emperor Constans
0532 Nika uprising at Constantinople fails, 30-40,000 die
1307 German king Albrecht I makes his son Rudolf king of Bohemia
1478 Grand Duke Ivan II of Moscow occupies Novgorod
1486 King Henry VII of England marries Elizabeth, daughter of Edward IV
1520 Christian II of Denmark & Norway defeats the Swedes at Lake Asunde
1535 Francisco Pizarro founds Lima Peru
1644 Perplexed Pilgrims in Boston reported America's 1st UFO sighting
1671 Pirate Henry Morgan defeats Spanish defenders, captures Panamá
1733 1st polar bear exhibited in America (Boston)
1777 San Jose CA founded
1778 Captain James Cook stumbles over Sandwich Islands (Hawaiian Islands)
1840 Electro-Magnetic Intelligencer, 1st US electrical journal, appears
1862 Confederate Territory of Arizona is formed
1865 Battle of Fort Moultrie SC
1869 Elegant California Theatre opens in San Francisco CA
1871 2nd German Empire proclaimed by Kaiser Wilhelm I & Bismarck
1884 General Charles Gordon departs London for Khartoum
1896 1st demonstration of an x-ray machine in the US, New York City NY
1901 Pope Leo XIII publishes encyclical Graves De Communi Re
1911 1st shipboard landing of a plane (Tanforan Park to USS Pennsylvania)
1919 WWI Peace Congress opens in Versailles, France
1929 "New York Daily Mirror" columnist Walter Winchell debuts on radio
1929 Stalin proposes to ban Trotsky from the Politburo
1930 -27ºF (-33ºC), Watts OK (state record)
1933 White Sands National Monument, NM established
1938 Pitcher Grover Cleveland Alexander is elected to the Hall of Fame

1943 Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto begin resistance of Nazis

1943 Soviets announce they broke the long Nazi siege of Leningrad
1944 1st Chinese naturalized US citizen since repeal of exclusion acts
1947 Detroit Tigers sell Hank Greenberg to Pirates (for $25-35,000)
1948 Ted Mack's "Original Amateur Hour" begins, DuMont (later NBC/ABC/CBS)
1950 Indians pitcher Bob Feller, after 15-14 season, takes $20,000 salary cut to $45,000, pay cut is Feller's own suggestion
1951 NFL rules tackles, guards & centers ineligible for forward pass
1951 NFL takes control of the failing Baltimore Colts
1951 Hermann Flake sentenced to death due to "hate campaign against German Democratic Republic"
1954 Fanfani forms Italian government
1956 German Democratic Republic forms own army (National People's Army)
1957 3 B-52's set record for around-the-world flight, 45 hours 19 minutes
1962 US begins spraying foliage in Vietnam to reveal Viet Cong guerrillas
1964 Beatles 1st appearance in Billboard Chart (I Want to Hold Your Hand-#35)
1964 Plans for the World Trade Center announced (New York City NY)
1967 Albert DeSalvo (Boston Strangler) sentenced to life in prison
1969 Expanded 4 party Vietnam peace talks began in Paris
1969 Soyuz 5 returns to Earth
1973 Boston Red Sox sign Orlando Cepeda as 1st player signed as a DH
1973 John Cleese's final episode on "Monty Python's Flying Circus" on BBC
1974 "The $6 Million Man" starring Lee Majors premieres on ABC TV
1975 "The Jeffersons" spin-off from "All in the Family" premieres on CBS
1976 Super Bowl X Pittsburgh Steelers beat Dallas Cowboys, 21-17 in Miami; Super Bowl MVP Lynn Swann, Pittsburgh, Wide Receiver
1978 Thiokol conducts 2nd test firing of space shuttle's SRB
1980 Gold reaches $1,000 an ounce
1980 Pink Floyd's "The Wall" hits #1
1980 Studio 54 owners Steve Rubell & Ian Schrager sentenced to 3½ years in prison for tax evasion & fined $20,000
1981 Iran accepts US offer of $7.9 billion in frozen assets
1983 IOC restores Jim Thorpe's Olympic medals 70 years after they were taken from him for being paid $25 in semipro baseball
1985 US renounces jurisdiction of World Court
1989 Astronomers discover pulsar in remnants of Supernova 1987A (LMC)
1989 Otis Redding, Dion, Rolling Stones, Temptations & Stevie Wonder inducted into Rock & Roll Hall of Fame
1990 Washington DC, Mayor Marion Barry arrested in drug enforcement sting
1991 Eastern Airlines goes out of business after 62 years
1991 Iraq launches SCUD missiles against Israel
1991 US acknowledges CIA and US Army paid Noriega $320,000 over his career
1993 Martin Luther King Jr holiday observed in all 50 states for 1st time
1996 Lisa Marie Presley filed for divorce from Michael Jackson in NY




Holidays
Note: Some Holidays are only applicable on a given "day of the week"

World : Pooh Day
Tunisia : Revolution Day (1956)
US : Cuckoo Dancing Week Begins
US : Healthy Weight Week Begins
US : Pizza Week Begins
Wheat Bread Month




Religious Observances
Judism : Tu B'Shvat
Anglican, Lutheran : Commemoration of the Confession of St Peter the Apostle
Lutheran : Week of Prayer for Christian Unity begins
Roman Catholic-Mexico : Commemoration of St Prisca, virgin/martyr at 13
Roman Catholic : Feast of Blessed Beatrix d'Este
Roman Catholic : Feast of St Leobardus
Christian : Church & Economic Life Week begins
Roman Catholic : Commemoration of St Margaret of Hungary




Religious History
1562 The Council of Trent Ä called by the popes to deal with the monumental problems caused by the Reformation Ä reconvened, following a suspension of ten years.
1815 Birth of L.F.K. Tischendorf, German biblical and textual scholar. In 1844 he discovered one of the oldest and most valuable manuscripts of the Greek Bible, the Codex Sinaiticus, which dates back to the 4th century.
1846 Taylor University was established in Fort Wayne, Indiana, under Methodist sponsorship.
1891 The first Armenian Church in the U.S. was consecrated in Worcester, MA. New churches were later consecrated in Fresno, CA (1900); West Hoboken, NJ (1907); and Fowler, CA (1910).
1936 In Washington, DC, Catholic biblical scholars met to discuss two proposals: the preparation of a new Bible translation and the formation of a society of Catholic biblical scholars. In result, the Catholic Biblical Association (CBA) was formed in 1937, and the New American Bible (NAB) was published in 1970.

Source: William D. Blake. ALMANAC OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH. Minneapolis: Bethany House, 1987.




Thought for the day :
"Let your religion be less of a theory and more of a love affair."


43 posted on 01/18/2005 6:45:48 AM PST by Valin (Sometimes you're the bug, and sometimes you're the windshield)
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To: GailA

it's cold here this morning...25 degrees

How do you stand it! :-)


44 posted on 01/18/2005 6:47:45 AM PST by Valin (Sometimes you're the bug, and sometimes you're the windshield)
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To: SAMWolf; msdrby

I'm going through several dozen resumes right now. I'm looking to hire an entry level Engineer, and one or two interns.

One of the resumes I just saw is for a guy who was a Nuke Reactor guy aboard the USS OHIO. Gotta see if we can talk with him!


45 posted on 01/18/2005 7:15:17 AM PST by Professional Engineer (I don't need no steekin' microchip jockeys.)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf

Good morning! Hope all is well in your neck of the woods.

Cheers!


46 posted on 01/18/2005 7:28:53 AM PST by SZonian (Too early in the year for a tagline.)
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To: Valin
1943 Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto begin resistance of Nazis

Many Jews in ghettos across eastern Europe tried to organize resistance against the Germans and to arm themselves with smuggled and homemade weapons. Between 1941 and 1943, underground resistance movements formed in about 100 Jewish groups. The most famous attempt by Jews to resist the Germans in armed fighting occurred in the Warsaw ghetto.

In the summer of 1942, about 300,000 Jews were deported from Warsaw to Treblinka. When reports of mass murder in the killing center leaked back to the Warsaw ghetto, a surviving group of mostly young people formed an organization called the Z.O.B. (for the Polish name, Zydowska Organizacja Bojowa, which means Jewish Fighting Organization). The Z.O.B., led by 23-year-old Mordecai Anielewicz, issued a proclamation calling for the Jewish people to resist going to the railroad cars. In January 1943, Warsaw ghetto fighters fired upon German troops as they tried to round up another group of ghetto inhabitants for deportation. Fighters used a small supply of weapons that had been smuggled into the ghetto. After a few days, the troops retreated. This small victory inspired the ghetto fighters to prepare for future resistance.

On April 19, 1943, the Warsaw ghetto uprising began after German troops and police entered the ghetto to deport its surviving inhabitants. Seven hundred and fifty fighters fought the heavily armed and well-trained Germans. The ghetto fighters were able to hold out for nearly a month, but on May 16, 1943, the revolt ended. The Germans had slowly crushed the resistance. Of the more than 56,000 Jews captured, about 7,000 were shot, and the remainder were deported to killing centers or concentration camps.

That's almost as long as the entire french army, air force and navy held out.

47 posted on 01/18/2005 8:19:53 AM PST by SAMWolf (Anarchy: Rights without Responsibilities.)
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To: Professional Engineer
Nuke Reactor guy aboard the USS OHIO

That should be interesting.

48 posted on 01/18/2005 8:21:02 AM PST by SAMWolf (Anarchy: Rights without Responsibilities.)
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To: SZonian

Morning SZonian


49 posted on 01/18/2005 8:21:28 AM PST by SAMWolf (Anarchy: Rights without Responsibilities.)
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To: SAMWolf

The ghetto fighters were able to hold out for nearly a month, but on May 16, 1943, the revolt ended. The Germans had slowly crushed the resistance.

While the soviet forces waited a couple of miles down the road.


50 posted on 01/18/2005 8:31:18 AM PST by Valin (Sometimes you're the bug, and sometimes you're the windshield)
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