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The FReeper Foxhole Enjoys a Lazy Sunday - The Great Seal - July 3rd, 2005
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Posted on 07/03/2005 7:54:27 AM PDT by snippy_about_it

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To: Darksheare

Sound like more than I could deal with. WHEW!

We have several programs I haven't learned to work with yet. I have all kinds of "Dummies" books to help me along, if I ever get the chance to really put it to it.

I need to master the art of astral projection so there'll be two of me.......one to deal with everyday stuff around the house and farm, and the other to learn nifty computer stuff. LOL!


41 posted on 07/03/2005 3:07:18 PM PDT by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: snippy_about_it
Sadly though I see the ideas of our Founding Fathers being destroyed on a daily basis with barely any hope of us keeping this Republic.

Hey sweets. As I get older and hopefully wiser it becomes abundantly apparent that just because the MSM reports debilitating aspects of our republic doesn't mean it's debilitating. While it's true that some misplaced judges are legislating from the bench it's equally true that more honest Americans are witnessing this and wanting to see something done to prevent it.

I get frustrated with the "wait and see" attitude that we often take but once enough has been seen our resolve to make things right is overwhelming. I saw this first hand with the recall of Gov. Grey Davis . . . just to site one example.

The MSM and the party of "hate America first" can harp all they want . . . that's all they've ever accomplished. IMHO.

42 posted on 07/03/2005 4:28:44 PM PDT by w_over_w (God Bless America.)
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To: w_over_w

Well put.


43 posted on 07/03/2005 7:05:29 PM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: radu

Good evening radu.


44 posted on 07/03/2005 7:07:33 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; Professional Engineer; bentfeather; Valin; w_over_w; GailA; alfa6; ...
In accordance with Public Law Number 851, passed at the Second Session of the 84th Congress of the United Stated States, July 30, 1956, the National Motto of the United States is “IN GOD WE TRUST.”

Madeline Murray O'Hair lost her head in her satanic pursuits. O the hilarity.

The federal courts have held that the motto symbolizes the historical role of religion in our society, Lynch, 465 U.S. at 676, formalizes our medium of exchange, see O'Hair v. Blumenthal, 462 F. Supp. 19, 20 (W.D. Tex.), aff'd sub nom. O'Hair v. Murray, 588 F.2d 1144 (5th Cir. 1978) (per curiam), and cert. denied, 442 U.S.930 (1979), fosters patriotism, see Aronow v. United States, 432 F.2d 242, 243 (9th Cir. 1970), and expresses confidence in the future, Lynch, 465 U.S. at 692-93 (O'Connor, J., concurring). The motto's primary effect is not to advance religion; instead, it is a form of "ceremonial deism" which through historical usage and ubiquity cannot be reasonably understood to convey government approval of religious belief. Allegheny, 492 U.S. at 625 (O'Connor, J., concurring); Lynch, 465 U.S. at 693 (O'Connor, J., concurring); id. at 716 (Brennan, J., dissenting). Finally, the motto does not create an intimate relationship of the type that suggests unconstitutional entanglement of church and state. O'Hair, 462 F. Supp. at 20. "After making [inquiries], we find that a reasonable observer, aware of the purpose, context, and history of the phrase "In God we trust," would not consider its use or its reproduction on U.S. currency to be an endorsement of religion. (Gaylor vs USA, 10th Cir. 1996)

"And as I end the refrain, slice off her head." [Cyrano de Bergerac, Act III Scene 2 Line 37]

The significance of the mystical number 13, which frequently appears upon the Great Seal of the United States, is not limited to the number of the original colonies. The sacred emblem of the ancient initiates, here composed of 13 stars, also appears above the head of the "eagle." The motto, E Pluribus Unum, contains 13 letters, as does also the inscription, Annuit Coeptis. The "eagle" clutches in its right talon a branch bearing 13 leaves and 13 berries and in its left a sheaf of 13 arrows. The face of the pyramid, exclusive of the panel containing the date, consists of 72 stones arranged in 13 rows.

There is no evidence that the final designers of the Great Seal, Charles Thomson or Philadelphia William Barton, were Masons. It is more likely that the seal designers of the Great Seal and the Masons took their symbols from parallel sources.

E Pluribus Unum means "out of many, one". It comes from a popular publication during revolutionary times entitled Gentleman's Magazine which carried that legend upon the title page. The magazine was well known to literate Americans of the time. The Gentleman's Magazine obtained the legend from an earlier and long out of print publication called the Gentleman's Journal which used the motto in 1692. And perhaps ultimately to Virgil, St. Augustine or Horace. It was first used extensively in the United States only after it was introduced on the Great Seal.


May 26, 1960
Ambassador Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr.
displays the Great Seal bug at the United Nations.

In 1946, Soviet school children presented a two foot wooden replica of the Great Seal of the United States to Ambassador Averell Harriman. The Ambassador hung the seal in his office in Spaso House (Ambassador's residence). During George F. Kennan's ambassadorship in 1952, a routine security check discovered that the seal contained a microphone and a resonant cavity which could be stimulated from an outside radio signal.


Replica of the Great Seal bug.
On display at the National Security Agency (NSA)

Great Seal Fact Sheet Bureau of Public Affairs Washington, DC April 1, 2002 In the Department of State, the term "Great Seal" has come to include not just the die, but the counter-die, the press, and the cover, or cabinet in which it is housed, as well. These stand in the Exhibit Hall of the Department, inside a glass enclosure which is kept locked at all times, even during the sealing of a document. The mahogany cabinet's doors are also kept locked and the press is bolted and padlocked in position except when in use. The seal can be affixed only by an officer of the Department of State, under the authority of its custodian, the Secretary of State. When there are documents ready for sealing, one of the officers carries them to the enclosure where the Great Seal is kept and prepares them for impressing.

First, a 3-3/4-inch, scalloped, blank paper wafer of off-white linen stock is glued in the space provided for it to the left of the document's dating clause. If ribbons are used in binding the document, they are run under the paper wafer and glued fast. Second, the document is inserted between the counter-die, with the wafer carefully lined up between them. Third, the document is held in place with the left hand and the weighted arm of the press is pulled sharply forward with the right hand, from right to left. This drives the die down onto the wafer, document, and counter-die, which impresses the seal in relief. The die is then raised, releasing the document and allowing for its removal. When an envelope containing letters of credence or recall is to be sealed, the wafer is impressed first, and then glued to the sealed envelope, leaving the envelope itself unmarked.


45 posted on 07/03/2005 9:17:30 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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Fascinating read.
46 posted on 07/03/2005 9:51:43 PM PDT by w_over_w (God Bless America.)
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To: w_over_w
Hi w_over_w,

I am always glad to see the free dissemination of pages from my website www.BibleWheel.com, but it would be best if you had indicated who wrote the article and where readers could find more information. So please feel free to use anything from my site, the only stipulation being that in the future you cite the source.

For folks reading this thread, the source document that w_over_w copied may be found here.

Thanks, and God Bless America!

Richard Amiel McGough
www.BibleWheel.com

47 posted on 04/24/2006 8:52:18 AM PDT by BibleWheel (Source on the Great Seal article from www.BibleWheel.com)
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