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The FReeper Foxhole Enjoys a Lazy Sunday -A B-17 Flying Fortress Walkabout
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Posted on 08/20/2005 10:09:25 PM PDT by alfa6


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A B-17 Walk In and About

The Boeing Model 299 first took flight July 28, 1935 from Boeing Field in Seattle with Boeing test pilot Les Towers at the controls. The 299 was designed in response to an Army Air Corps request for a new multi-engine bomber.

The name “Flying Fortress” was coined by a Seattle Times reporter Richard Williams. who was impressed with the machine gun layout at the rollout of the Model 299. Boeing recognized the PR value of the term and had it copyrighted in respect to the B-17.

The prototype crashed during the Army Air Corp evaluation testing when Army pilot Ployer Hill attempted to take off with the tail control surfaces locked. The crash killed all on board including Les Tower.

The Army was impressed enough with the Flying Fortress that they took advantage of a loophole that allowed them to buy a small number of the second place aircraft for further testing. 13 YB-17s were ordered.

The B-17 went through eight major revisions in it’s carrer ending in the B-17G which is considered the definitive version. Over 12,700 B-17s were produced by a consortium of manufacturers including Boeing, Douglas and Vega. Besides it’s use as a bomber the B-17 also filled the role as maritime patrol aircraft, electronic countermeasures aircraft and search and rescue patrol craft.

What follows will be a short walk around and in tour of a B-17. Most of these pictures are of the Collings Foundation B-17 “Nine o’ Nine” A big lift of the alfa6 lid to the fine folks who posted these pictures in the alt.binaries,aviation newsgroup over the last few years.

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The nose of the B-17G showing off the chin turret and the access hatch to the nose.

Port side front view

Rear port side showing the waist gun and radio operators hatch.

The tail guns, this B-17G does not have the Cheyenne tail guns.

Around to the starboard side of the B-17 showing the top and ball turrets and the right waist gun position.

The right side of the nose area.

1 posted on 08/20/2005 10:09:26 PM PDT by alfa6
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; Professional Engineer
And now a look at the inside of the B-17
The next two pics are of the pilot and co-pilots stations.

Next up the sharp end of the B-17 where the bombadier and navigator worked. Note the chin turret sight on the right side of the nose glazing.

The navigators table with the port side cheek gun.

A part of the radio room

The interior mounting of the Sperry ball turret, note tyhe ammuntion feed boxes on each side of the turret.

2 posted on 08/20/2005 10:22:17 PM PDT by alfa6 (Any child of twelve can do it, with fifteen years practice)
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To: alfa6
Some more pics

A pic of the waist gunners positions. Notice that the gunners are now staggered in the "G" model of the B-17. This was an improvement over the previous models as it allowed the waist gunners a greater freedom of action.

A nother view of the waist position. The plywood ammunition boxes for the waist guns show up well in theis picture.

A picture of the Cheyenne tail guns on the B-17s. IIRC this mount was designed by the folks at the Cheyenne modification center, hence the name.

And a couple of shots that didn't make it at the beginning.

A final word for the night. Out of almost 13,000 B-17s produced there are only about 14 left flying in the United States. There are several still flying over seas as well.

The B-17 might not have had the range or bomb load of the B-24 Liberator or the Avro Lancaster but it was an easy aircraft to fly and built like the provebial Mack Truck. The Fortress crews knew that the B-17 would bring them back and many planes that should not have been flying did just that.

Sounds like an idea for another thread some day :-)

3 posted on 08/20/2005 10:37:41 PM PDT by alfa6 (Any child of twelve can do it, with fifteen years practice)
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Good Sunday Morning Everyone.

A big thank you goes out to alfa6 for giving us a day off and doing today's thread!

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4 posted on 08/20/2005 10:40:10 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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Some links on the B-17 for further reading.

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5 posted on 08/20/2005 10:41:20 PM PDT by alfa6 (Any child of twelve can do it, with fifteen years practice)
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This looks great alfa6, I promise to take a closer look at SAM's favorite plane in the morning. Off to bed now, thanks again for the day off. :-)

6 posted on 08/20/2005 10:41:34 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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7 posted on 08/20/2005 10:42:14 PM PDT by alfa6 (Any child of twelve can do it, with fifteen years practice)
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To: Squantos; RaceBannon; SLB; razorback-bert; All
B-17 pics and lots of 'em

Note to all, didn't see a particular pic let me know and If I have it I will post it later on Sunday.

example here's one that I forgot about...long story


alfa6 ;>}

8 posted on 08/20/2005 10:49:59 PM PDT by alfa6 (Any child of twelve can do it, with fifteen years practice)
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It was on one hand an outstandingly ugly plane for the day, and on the other hand a strangely pretty aircraft for what it was designed to do.
The Cockpit windscreens rising at an angle off the nose as they do is distinctive, and strangely beautiful.

The original vertical stab was a horror of design in that it looked like a vertical duck bill rather than part of an aircraft.

9 posted on 08/20/2005 10:50:14 PM PDT by Darksheare (There is a Possum in the works.)
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To: alfa6
Very nice shot indeed of the, what, #3? R-1830. That assembly is such a work of art. Contemplate the exhaust system. I believe the welding was done with gas. Incredible.

Oh, yeah, single row radial, nine cylinders, made by Curtiss-Wright. In the G rated at 1200 hp. Just read that the engine fuel consumption was one hundred gallons per hour at full power (not military or emergency power).

Just took another look. Oh, such work.

Did you all know that in those days they SOLDERED the fuel fittings onto the fuel tanks? Regular old tin-lead type solder. Right onto the aluminum tank. I have read about the technique. Extremely cool.
10 posted on 08/20/2005 11:41:22 PM PDT by Iris7 ("A pig's gotta fly." - Porco Rosso)
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To: alfa6

Do you want to know how to fly a B-17

11 posted on 08/21/2005 1:00:20 AM PDT by quietolong
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Even though I know the B-24 carried more of a load, had a longer range, and outperformed the B-17 in many aspects, I've always just found the Flying Fortress to be a beautiful airplane. The Liberator just looked so utilitarian, but the B-17 looks so graceful. I can't even define why.

12 posted on 08/21/2005 1:11:38 AM PDT by tarawa
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Good morning, Snippy and everyone at the Freeper Foxhole.

13 posted on 08/21/2005 3:01:09 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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Good morning Snippy, Sam and ALL.

14 posted on 08/21/2005 3:45:25 AM PDT by GailA (Glory be to GOD and his only son Jesus.)
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To: alfa6
My wife's uncle was a technician in one of the Army Air Corps test crews in Seattle that flew every B-17 after they came out of the factory to ensure airworthiness and detect any manufacturing shortcomings. He loved the aircraft, but said the biggest problem was stuff left in the aircraft by the factory workers--tools, pieces of metal, and so on that could jam controls or cut wires, etc.

His life story was pretty interesting--immigrated to America, returned to Italy on a visit and put into the Italian Army under Mussolini as he had been drafted in his absence, and then finally getting back to America where he was drafted again and ended up in the Army Air Corps.

15 posted on 08/21/2005 4:47:49 AM PDT by mark502inf
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August 21, 2005

The Prospect Of Heaven

Revelation 22:1-5

Now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. —1 Corinthians 13:12

Bible In One Year: Lamentations 1-5

cover As I approached my 90th birthday, two emotions surged through my heart. One was certainty, the positive assurance of life to come. And why not? Jesus said, "Because I live, you will live also" (John 14:19).

That assurance, however, is often accompanied by another emotion— curiosity. What will the next world really be like? Even the inspired descriptions of the celestial dwelling that we have in the Bible's last book are inadequate to convey what awaits us. Yet they do intensify our desire to leave this dark earthly existence and to enter that heavenly reality. We read about "a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding from the throne of God," "the tree of life," and "no more curse" (Revelation 22:1-3).

What are your own reactions as you think about the life beyond this life? Perhaps you are not especially curious. But are you blessed with the certainty of heaven, which you can have by faith in Jesus? Think of the words He spoke at the grave of Lazarus: "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die" (John 11:25).

Is that promise the foundation of your certainty? You can make it so by believing in Jesus. —Vernon Grounds

How Can We Have The Assurance Of Heaven?
Recognize our sinfulness (Romans 6:23).
Believe Jesus died for us (Acts 16:31).
Receive Him as Savior (John 1:12).
Trust His promise (John 20:31).

What you do with Jesus now determines what He will do with you later.

Safe & Secure
Where Do We Go From Here?

16 posted on 08/21/2005 6:16:10 AM PDT by The Mayor ( Pray as if everything depends on God; work as if everything depends on you.)
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To: alfa6; snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; Professional Engineer; Army Air Corps; Smartass
Great thread alfa6!

The B17 is one of my favorite aircraft, and I have a lot of respect for the men who flew these fortresses into battle. Praise God we had men of this caliber and fortitude to accomplish the mission.

Incredibly, the B17 was able to withstand enormous damage and still carry its crew back home. Yet, there were tremendous losses in both men and machines.

Thank you God!

The Colonial Warrior

17 posted on 08/21/2005 6:49:32 AM PDT by Colonial Warrior ("I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes several days attack me at once")
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The Fortress crews knew that the B-17 would bring them back and many planes that should not have been flying did just that.

1st Lt. Lawrence DeLancey managed to get his B-17 back to England after a direct hit by flak killed two of his crew over Cologne, Germany.

A ground launched rocket missile caused this damage to 388BG's "Panhandle" during an attack on a V-weapon site, June 15, 1944. The missile struck number 3 engine, ricocheted into the fuselage and exploded, leaving Sgt Biggs, the top turret gunner, with nasty burns. Despite extensive damage to various control lines Lt McFarlane brought the bomber down safely at Manston.

The B-17 "All American" (414th Squadron, 97BG) flown by Lieutenant Kenneth R. Bragg, its tail section almost severed by a collision with an enemy fighter, flew 90 minutes back to its home base, landed safely and broke in two after landing.

"Hang the Expense Again III" was seen heavily damaged, going down over France. The pilot, however, was able to bring it out of a dive and struggled back to his home field. The blast damage blew the tail gunner out of the aircraft but he survived the incident.

April 13th 1944. Crossing the Channel coast, lone survivor of the 545th BS, B-17G Squawkin' Chicken, flown by Lt. Dewayne Bennett galantly fights back a last attempt by Luftwaffe fighters to down her after the raid on Schweinfurt.

Thanks for the tour, alfa6. :-) IMHO, the greatest plane ever built.

18 posted on 08/21/2005 7:20:28 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Someday, we'll look back on this, laugh nervously and change the subject.)
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On This Day In History

Birthdates which occurred on August 21:
1165 Philip II Augustus 1st great Capetian king of France (1179-1223)
1660 Hubert Gautier engineer, wrote 1st book on bridge building
1765 William IV king of England (1830-37)
1789 Augustin-Louis Baron Cauchy, French mathematician
1890 Bill Henry SF Calif, newscaster (Who Said That?)
1896 Roark Bradford writer/humorist (Ol' Man Adan an' His Chillun)
1906 William "Count" Basie jazz pianist
1906 Friz Freleng animator (Bugs Bunny-Emmy 1982)
1907 Dr Roy K Marshall Glen Carbon Ill, TV scientist (Nature of Things)
1909 C Dillon Douglas Geneva Switz, US Secretary of Treasury (1961-65)
1915 Jack Weston [Morris Weinstein], Cleveland, actor (4 Seasons, Rad)
1921 Nancy Kulp Harrisburg Pa, actress (Jane-Beverly Hillbillies)
1923 Chris Schenkel Biuppus Ind, sportscaster (Monday Night Fights)
1928 Gillian Sheen England, foils (Olympic-gold-1956)
1930 Princess Margaret England (Sister of Queen Elizabeth)
1933 Dame Janet Baker York England, mezzo-soprano (Owen Wingrave)
1936 Mart Crowley playwright (Boys in the Band)
1936 Wilt Chamberlain NBA great center (LA Laker, 5 time MVP)
1938 Kenny Rogers singer (Lady) actor (The Gambler)
1939 Clarence Williams III NYC, actor (Mod Squad, 52 Pick Up, Purple Rain)
1944 Jackie DeShannon Hazel Kentucky, singer (What the World Needs Now)
1946 Lev Alburt USSR, International Chess Master (1976)
1951 Bernhard Germeshausen German DR, bobsled (Olympic-gold-1976, 80)
1951 Harry Smith Indiana, TV host (CBS Morning Show)
1953 Joe Strummer [John Mellor], rocker (Clash-Rock the Casbah)
1956 Kim Cattrall Liverpool England, actress (Mannequin, Star Trek VI)
1957 Janice Thomas WBL guard (NY Stars)
1957 Kim Sledge Phila, vocalist (Sister Sledge-We are Family)
1959 Jim McMahon NFL QB (Chicago Bears, SD Chargers, Phila Eagles)
1962 Matthew Broderick actor (Ferris Buehler, Biloxi Blues)
1967 Michael Bendetti actor (Officer Tony McCann-21 Jump Street)

Deaths which occurred on August 21:
1940 Leon Trotsky dies of wounds inflicted by an assailant the day before
1958 Walter Schumann choral director (Ford Show), dies at 44
1971 George Jackson killed in a prison break attempt
1982 Benigno S Aquino Jr Philippines opposition leader, killed in Manila

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GWOT Casualties

21-Aug-2003 2 | US: 2 | UK: 0 | Other: 0
US Lieutenant Kylan A. Jones-Huffman Al Hillah - Babil Hostile - hostile fire
US Private 1st Class Michael S. Adams Baghdad Non-hostile - building fire

21-Aug-2004 7 | US: 6 | UK: 0 | Other: 1
POL Private 1st Class Krystian Andrzejczak Al Hillah (near) - Babil Hostile - hostile fire - car bomb
US Gunnery Sergeant Edward T. Reeder Al Anbar Province Non-hostile - vehicle accident
US Private 1st Class Nachez Washalanta Al Anbar Province Hostile - hostile fire
US Lance Corporal Seth Huston Al Anbar Province Hostile - hostile fire
US Sergeant Jason Cook Al Anbar Province Hostile - hostile fire
US Corporal Nicanor Alvarez Al Anbar Province Hostile - hostile fire
US Private 1st Class Kevin A. Cuming Baghdad (southern part) Hostile - hostile fire - RPG attack

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On this day...
1129 Yoritomo becomes Shogun of Japan
1560 Tycho Brahe becomes interested in astronomy
1680 Pueblo Indians took possession of Santa F‚ from Spanish
1808 Battle of Vimiero Portugal. Duke of Wellington defeats the French
1831 Nat Turner slave revolt kills 55 (Southampton County, Virginia)
1841 John Hampson patents venetian blind
1858 1st Lincoln-Douglas debate (Illinois)
1864 General A.P. Hill attacks Union troops south of Petersburg, Va.
1878 American Bar Association organizes at Sarasota, NY
1883 Providence shuts out Phillies 28-0
1887 Mighty (Dan) Casey Struck-out in a game with the NY Giants!
1901 Joe McGinnity, suspended from NL for punching & spitting on an ump
1922 Curly Lambeau & Green Bay Football Club granted NFL franchise
1926 White Sox Ted Lyons no hits Red Sox 6-0 in just 67 minutes at Fenway
1927 4th Pan-African Congress meets (NYC)
1929 Chicago Cardinals become 1st pro football team to train out of town
1931 Babe Ruth hits his 600th HR (Yanks beat Browns 11-7)
1942 U.S. Marines defeat Japanese ground Battle of Tenaru Guadalcanal
1944 Dumbarton Oaks conference opens in Washington, DC; establishes UN
1945 Pres Truman ends Lend-Lease program
1949 NY Giants beat Phillies on a forfeit, due to fan's throwing debris
1953 Marion Carl in Douglas Skyrocket reaches record 25,370 m
1958 KUT-FM in Austin Texas begins radio transmissions

1959 Hawaii becomes 50th US state

1963 Martial law declared in S Vietnam
1965 Gemini 5 launched into Earth orbit (crewed by Gordon Cooper & Charles "Pete" Conrad)
1968 After 5 years Russia once again jams Voice of America radio
1968 Democratic Convention opens in Chicago
1968 Radio Prague (Czech) at 12:50 AM announces a soviet led invasion. Warsaw Pact forces enter Czechoslovakia to end reform movement
1968 William Dana reaches 80 km (last high-altitude X-15 flight)
1972 1st hot air balloon flight over the Alps
1972 US orbiting astronomy observatory Copernicus launched
1975 Kathleen Ann Soliah (later known as Sarah Jane Olson, AKA Our Little Terrorist) and other members of the SLA placed 2 pipe bombs under parked police cars at an Int'l. House of Pancakes on Sunset Blvd. They did not explode.
Olson was convicted and sentenced in 2002 to 20 years to life in prison and was then arraigned with 3 others for the Apr 21 murder of Myrna Opsahl.
1975 Rick & Paul Reuschel become 1st brothers to pitch a combined shut out
1976 Al Bumbry hits the 17th inside-the-park HR in Oriole history
1977 Donna Patterson Brice sets high speed water skiing rec (111.11 mph)
1982 Palestinian terrorists are dispersed from Beirut
1982 Rollie Fingers (Brewers) becomes 1st pitcher to get save #300
1985 Mary Decker Slaney runs mile in world record 4:16.71
1986 Lake Nios Volcanic eruption in Cameroon releases poison gas, killing 1,746
1986 Red Sox Spike Owens scores 6 runs in a 24-5 rout of Cleve Indians
1986 With 2 outs in the 6th inning, The Red Sox score 11 runs
1987 "Mack Lobell" set harness racing's trotting mil (1:52)
1987 Clayton Lonetree, 1st marine court-martialed for spying, convicted
1988 Cease fire between Iran & Iraq takes effect after 8 years of war
1989 Voyager 2 begins a flyby of the planet Neptune
1991 Communist coup is crushed in USSR in 2 days
1992 US marshals move onto the property of Randy Weaver in Ruby Ridge, Idaho in an attempt to serve an arrest warrant on Randy Weaver on weapons charges. 11 days later Weaver’s 14-year old son, Sammy dead, Randy Weaver's wife dead, US Marshall Bill Degan dead.
1992 SErb soldiers separat over 200 men, mostly Croats and Muslims, from a convoy of civilians. They are later found shot
1996 Police in Oulu, Finland unveil a 3-foot harpoon to stop runaway drivers.
1999 St. Pierre-de-Trivisy town council, home of Roquefort cheese, imposed a 100% tax on Coca Cola in retaliation for American tariffs on European goods
2001 The CIA place Khalid Al-Midhar and Nawaf Alhazmi under suspicion as part of the investigation in the bombing of the destroyer Cole in Yemen. The 2 were among the hijackers who commandeered the jet that hit the Pentagon on Sep 11
2003 Alabama's top judge, Chief Justice Roy Moore, refuses to back down in his fight to keep a Ten Commandments monument and lashed out at his colleagues who ordered it removed from the rotunda of the state judicial building.
2003 US military reports Ali Hassan al-Majid, No. 5 on the list of most-wanted Iraqis, has been captured
2004 Iraq celebrates their national soccer team's startling 1-0 victory over Australia in the Olympic quarterfinal
2017 Next total solar eclipse visible from North America

Note: Some Holidays are only applicable on a given "day of the week"

Hawaii : Admission Day (1959)
Weird Contest Week (Day 6)
Elvis International Tribute Week Ends
Sit Back and Relax Day
National Peach Month

Religious Observances
RC : Commemoration of St Jane Frances Fr‚miot de Chantal, widow
RC : Memorial of Pius X, pope (1903-14)

Religious History
1245 Alexander of Hales, 59, died. An English scholastic theologian, Alexander is regarded as the founder of the Franciscan school of theology.
1799 Birth of Alexander R. Reinagle, English church organist. He penned many sacred compositions, including ST. PETER, which afterward became the melody to the hymn, "In Christ There is No East or West."
1866 Birth of Civilla D. Martin, teacher and songwriter, in Nova Scotia. A pastor's wife, she penned in 1904 the hymn, "Be Not Dismayed, Whate'er Betide" (a.k.a. "God Will Take Care of You").
1874 Popular 19th century preacher Henry Ward Beecher (1813-1887) was accused by Theodore Tilton of committing adultery with his wife. The resulting trial ended in a 9-3 hung jury decision, in Beecher's favor.
1930 Pioneer linguistic educator Frank C. Laubach wrote in a letter: 'If this entire universe has a desperate need of love to incarnate itself, then "important duties" which keep us from helping little people are not duties but sins.'

Source: William D. Blake. ALMANAC OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH. Minneapolis: Bethany House, 1987.

Fisherman nets wallet lost by boater 39 years ago

BOSTON -- Back in 1966, James Lubeck bent over to secure his sailboat against a gathering storm and his wallet slipped from his back pocket into Marblehead Harbor. The wallet and the credit cards inside were seemingly gone forever.

Then Lubeck got word recently about a mind-boggling discovery: A fisherman had hauled in the wallet's sheath of credit cards in a netful of cod, flounder and haddock.
"I can't find the adjectives" Lubeck, 74, said in an interview Friday. "I don't know how many people would have done that."

Fisherman Antonino Randazzo hauled in the catch in June roughly 25 miles from where Lubeck lost the wallet. The sheath was caked in mud, but the 10 to 12 credit and identification cards were in pristine condition.
"It is incredible,'' he said. ''Life is full of mysteries."
Randazzo, 44, said he initially feared the wallet belonged to someone who was lost at sea, but when he looked at the cards, he noticed that the expiration dates were from the late 1960s.

The only Lubeck listed in the Marblehead phone book was a Jonathan. Randazzo called and nervously inquired whether James Lubeck was home. He was relieved to learn from James Lubeck's daughter-in-law that he was alive and living in Connecticut.
Later, when Lubeck got a call from his son about the recovered wallet, he initially had no idea what he was talking about. He eventually recalled the details -- and the $300 in expense checks that had been lost with the wallet.
"Thirty-nine years ago, $300 was a lot of money," he said.

The checks, cash and leather of the wallet are gone, but the value of the find isn't in what was recovered, but what happened afterward, Lubeck said.
"It's the idea that somebody reached out," Lubeck said. "And the puzzlement of that moving so many miles."

Thought for the day :
"The people don't take baths and they don't speak English. No golf courses, no room service. Who needs it?"
Jim McMahon
(on Europe)

19 posted on 08/21/2005 7:42:29 AM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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A couple of more pics that did not make it last night.

A B-17D in the Philipines. Looks like P-35s in the right background.

This was suppose to be the lead pic on the inside pics but as I said a long story.


alfa6 ;>}

20 posted on 08/21/2005 7:55:51 AM PDT by alfa6 (Any child of twelve can do it, with fifteen years practice)
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