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The FReeper Foxhole - Dick Winters' Reflections on His Band of Brothers - Nov 3rd, 2005
American History Magazine | Christopher J. Anderson

Posted on 11/02/2005 10:46:59 PM PST by snippy_about_it


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Dick Winters' Reflections

His Band of Brothers, D-Day and Leadership

Major Richard "Dick" Winters of "Band of Brothers" fame speaks candidly about the men and actions of Easy Company and reflects on D-Day and the lessons he learned about leadership.

After his discharge from the U.S. Army in 1945, Major Richard Winters returned to civilian life. He worked for a while for Nixon Nitration Works, the family firm of his wartime friend Louis Nixon. Following a brief tour of duty during the Korean War, he returned to Hershey, Pa., embarked on a successful business career, raised a family and lived the quiet life he had promised himself after his first day in combat on June 6, 1944. In 1992 this solitude was interrupted with the publication of historian Stephen E. Ambrose's best-selling book Band of Brothers, which brought the World War II story of Dick Winters and Company E, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division -- which he had commanded from Normandy to Berchtesgaden -- to the public's attention. The spotlight intensified exponentially when Hollywood's Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks teamed up to bring Winters' story to tens of millions in the highly acclaimed, Emmy-winning HBO miniseries Band of Brothers. This mass exposure transformed Winters and his comrades into cultural icons for generations far removed from World War II. They have become the embodiment of millions of American servicemen who marched off to war as ordinary men but achieved extraordinary things.

Faced with his newfound fame, Winters seized the opportunity to continue to lead and instill in others the lessons about leadership he learned in the life and death crucible of war. It was Ambrose who, after chronicling Winters' story, impressed upon him that his leadership ethics could inspire all generations.

Major Dick Winters: After Band of Brothers became such an unexpected success, Ambrose wrote me a letter of thanks. In that letter he said, "Thanks for teaching me the duties and responsibilities of a good company commander." Later on, he again acknowledged me in his book on Lewis and Clark. He continued to do this with every book he wrote afterward. I appreciated that recognition, and I appreciated the fact that he never forgot me. I was one of the first people he called when he said that he had sold the book to Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg.

Ambrose later wrote me another letter and said that in the future, whenever I had an opportunity, I should talk on the subject of leadership. So, as a way to deliver what I believe is an important message, and to honor my friend's request, I speak on this subject whenever I have an opportunity.

Winters' first opportunity to lead came in 1942, when he completed Officer Candidate School and began his journey to Easy Company and war.

When I first joined the Army I took a series of tests to see where I would best fit. I scored high enough that I qualified for Officer Candidate School [OCS]. While I was at OCS at Fort Benning, Ga., I applied for the airborne, a new thing that looked like a challenge. I had always enjoyed sports and physical activity, and there was a certain appeal to being with the best. After graduating from OCS, I reported to Camp Croft, in South Carolina, where I was busy training new men. I had been at this for about 13 weeks when I got orders to report to Camp Toombs in Georgia. On the way to the camp I was pretty unsettled. I took Highway 13, passed a casket factory and reported in at Camp Toombs. There was not much there, and I was assigned to a tar-paper shack. There were no windows in any of the buildings, and the only place with electricity was the latrine. This was rough. But you were expecting to have it rough if you were going to be in the parachute troops.

Training started right away, and there was this Currahee Mountain that we had to run up and down. It was wicked, a real killer. But Currahee was terrific, as it became a test for all the men and officers. Everyone had to run up it -- walk actually, in what we called the "airborne shuffle." It was equal for every man, every officer. Nobody was getting by with a thing. Everybody was being treated the same.

Shortly after Winters' arrival in July 1942, the Georgia camp's name was changed from the ominous Toombs to Toccoa. The new airborne officers were highly selective when it came to picking the men to fill what was to be the 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment.

Winters at Toccoa

We looked for the ones who looked like they could take it. When the going got tough, could they stick with it? We also looked for the men who accepted discipline. I already knew discipline is what makes a good soldier. On the runs and the hikes it was discipline that kept the men going. Another thing we looked at was if the individual was accepted by the other men. The men themselves did a lot of the work for the officers by sizing each other up. If someone could not be accepted by his fellow soldiers he was gone right away. The men who were told to leave didn't get to vote or make an appeal. This was not a popularity contest.

At Toccoa, Winters first met Colonel Robert Sink, the legendary commander of the 506th. Sink turned down two promotions during the war to stay with the regiment, an unusual choice given his West Point credentials as a professional soldier.

When I first met Sink I was in awe. He was sitting behind his desk smoking a cigarette. He came across as having this West Point attitude. You know, "You are not any big deal." But I learned pretty quickly that my first impression was wrong. Sink was a terrific leader, and he stuck with the regiment from the beginning to the very end of the war. I often wondered during the war how come this guy is sticking around? Frankly, I thought it was his drinking problem. He had a drinking problem, but it did not affect his leadership of the regiment.

This was his first regiment. And if you look at it through his eyes, and you see these troops coming from civilian life, direct from school, from work, maybe a few of them with a little college, and he is supposed to make a regiment out of this group?

It makes it even tougher when you look at the officers he was assigned -- and I include myself here. Here I am, a year out of college. I go through basic training as a volunteer. I signed up for Officer Candidate School. So a 90-day wonder, and now I am a second lieutenant. And this is the kind of stuff he was assigned and told to turn into a crack airborne unit. He had a heck of a job. To make it worse, he had nothing there at the camp. There were no buildings when he first reported in. He had to build an obstacle course. He had to beg, borrow and steal what he needed. He had to search for men who knew even the basics of their job. Of the cadre that he started with in Toccoa, not one of them was around by the time we got into combat. They were all good enough men, they were just not fit enough to be in the airborne. They came in and were there to teach us, give us basic training and construct the camp, put it together, but not one of them was around by the time we were ready to go to France. Sink did a terrific job from start to finish. He stuck with us throughout the entire war. I respect "Bourbon Bob." He was a good man.

Following Camp Toccoa, Winters and his men continued training at Fort Benning and other camps in the States before shipping out for Aldbourne, England, in September 1943. Winters credits his time in the idyllic English village and his relationships with its residents with truly preparing him for the tasks to come.

On the way over to England, the conditions on the troopship were awful; even the officers were crowded together. We arrived in Aldbourne on a Saturday evening and were immediately made busy getting the men settled and bedded down. All of the officers were crowded together in another building. The next morning, Sunday, I decided to get away from everybody to be by myself for a few minutes. The best place to be alone with your thoughts is in church, so I went to church. It gave me a chance to relax a little bit, get my thoughts together. I didn't pay any attention to the sermon, that wasn't important -- I just needed to be alone. After the service I still wanted to enjoy my solitude. Adjacent to the church there was a small cemetery. I went out of the church and walked up a hill to two small benches, and I sat down. As I looked over the cemetery I could see an elderly couple fussing over a grave. They eventually wandered up the hill and sat beside me.

We were soon engaged in a little conversation, and they invited me for tea. We had been briefed on how to handle our dealing with the English. It had been pointed out to us that they were on very strict rationing and that we shouldn't overdo invitations of this kind and make their problem all the more severe. But I went to tea and had a few visits with them after that. Shortly, it was decided that the officers were too crowded and some should be boarded with families in the town. Mr. and Mrs. Barnes offered to take two officers in, as long as I was one of them. I took Lieutenant Harry Welsh with me. Our quarters were with the family in a room over their store. It was not a big room, and we slept on army cots, but it got us away from the crowds. Now Welsh, he enjoyed going out in the evenings to the pubs, but I preferred to stay at home with the Barneses. In the evenings, as was their custom, shortly before 9 o'clock when the news came on, Mrs. Barnes would come up and knock on my door and say, "Lieutenant Winters, would you like to come down and listen to the news and have a spot of tea?" So naturally I took the opportunity to join them and listen to the news. Afterward Mr. Barnes, who was a lay minister, would lead us in a short prayer. Then we would have a small treat and chat for a while. Then, at 10, Mr. Barnes would announce that it was time for bed. That ritual became so important. I'd found a home away from home.

And, you see, the day I first saw the Barnes couple they had been decorating the grave of their son, who was in the Royal Air Force and had been killed. They adopted me and made me part of the family. This helped me prepare mentally for what I was about to face. As I look back on the months before the invasion, my stay with the Barnes family was so important. They were giving me the best treatment they could; they gave me a home, which was so important for my maturing.

While his time with the Barnes family afforded him an opportunity for calm and reflection, the days after his transfer to the marshaling area at Uppottery, England, were filled with final preparations for the impending invasion of Normandy.

They would take groups of us into tents in the marshaling areas to brief us and show us sand table models of the area where we were going to be jumping. When I went into the tent, a staff officer instructed us to memorize everything we saw -- the roads, bridges, trenches, everything. It was all very impressive, but you can only take so much of this. Frankly, I didn't let myself get carried away trying to memorize every cockeyed thing, because the big thing in life, not only in making a jump into Normandy, is that you have got to be able to think on your feet. That's what we had to do, and that's what we did. You've got to be able to think on your feet throughout your life. You have to do it every day.

The miniseries depicts a moment in the marshaling area at Uppottery when Winters disciplines Lieutenant Lynn "Buck" Compton, a fellow officer and close friend.

Compton had been with the company for six months, and I liked him very much. One problem, however, was that he had gotten into the habit of gambling with some of the men in the marshaling area. That is why I reprimanded him. It is a poor policy, and it puts him in the position, the embarrassing position, that if he wins, he must take from the men. He had taken from the men already. The point I was trying to make is that you have to be prepared to give to the people you lead. You must give in every way. You must give of your time, and you must be consistent in your treatment of them. You must never take from people you lead. Later, at Brécourt Manor, Compton did a fantastic job leading his men.

In the early morning hours of June 6, 1944, Winters leapt out into the flak-filled skies over Normandy and landed outside of Ste. Mère-Eglise just after 1 o'clock in the morning. After a harrowing night, he managed to collect a handful of men from Easy Company and bring them to Le Grand-Chemin, from where he led the attack on a battery of four German guns at Brécourt Manor -- guns that lay at the end of crucial Causeway No. 2, and that the 4th Infantry Division needed to get off Utah Beach. Of all Winters' actions in France, the destruction of German guns positioned at Brécourt Manor, raining down fire on the Americans struggling off Utah Beach, has been the most often cited. Professors at West Point have used this action as a lesson on the proper method of carrying out a small-unit attack. Chillingly depicted in the HBO miniseries, this daring assault is credited with saving many lives and expediting the advance of American forces inland on D-Day.

After roaming around at the tail end of another column for most of the evening, I finally stumbled into Le Grand-Chemin, where the 2nd Battalion was gathering. At the time, E Company consisted of just 13 men. As I was sitting there with my men, an officer came back and said, "Winters, they want you up front!" When I got there, Captain Clarence Hester turns to me and says: "There's fire along that hedgerow there. Take care of it." That was it. There was no elaborate plan or briefing. I didn't even know what was on the other side of the hedgerow. All I had were my instructions, and I had to quickly develop a plan from there. And as it turns out, I did. We were able to take out those four German guns with the loss of only one man, Private John Hall, who was killed just in front of me. He was a good man, and his death was hard on me. But the attack leaves good memories. We got the job done. It was only later, much later, that I realized how important knocking out those guns had been to our securing Causeway 2, which became the main causeway for troops coming off Utah Beach.

Years later, I heard from someone who had come up off the beach on that causeway. This guy, a medic, had been following behind some tanks. As they came up from the beach, one of the tanks became disabled. When the driver got out, he stepped on a mine. The medic went out into the field and patched this guy up. Later, after the book came out, this medic wrote me a letter and pointed out that he always wondered why the fire onto Utah Beach had stopped. "Thanks very much," he said. "I couldn't have made it without those guns being knocked out." That medic was a man named Eliot Richardson, who, as it turns out, later became attorney general in the Nixon administration. So we did a little good out there for those troops coming in on D-Day, which makes you feel pretty good.

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To: alfa6; snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; Professional Engineer; Peanut Gallery; All
Morning Glory Folks~

Thanks for the beautiful pic Alfa . . . hope your 12 hour (Yikes!) shift on Sunday goes by quickly.

We're looking at a gorgeous day to be out with all the birdies! We're still waiting for one of these guys to show up in our back yard.

Don't they know we have the best peanut-butter suet cakes in all of Santa Clarita? Maybe it's our marketing plan.

Red-Shafted Flicker

141 posted on 11/06/2005 9:35:50 AM PST by w_over_w (This tagline is blank, well, not actually blank but it would be if I didn't just tell you.)
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To: w_over_w

I will have to add that pic to my "BOIDS" folder.

The day is half over only 6 more hours to go :-)


alfa6 ;>}

142 posted on 11/06/2005 9:44:36 AM PST by alfa6 (He who hath so hath who he)
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The Producers

Concierge: Who d'ya want?
Leo Bloom: I beg your pardon?
Concierge: Who d'ya want? Nobody gets in the building unless I know who they want. I'm the "concierge". My husband used to be the "concierge", but he's dead. Now I'M the "concierge".
Max Bialystock: We are seeking Franz Liebkind.
Concierge: Oh... the Kraut! He's on the top floor, apartment 23.
Max Bialystock: Thank you...
Concierge: ...But you won't find him there... he's up on the roof with his boids. He keeps boids. Dirty... disgusting... filthy... lice-ridden boids. You used to be able to sit out on the stoop like a person. Not anymore! No, sir! Boids!... You get my drift?
Leo Bloom: We... uh... get your "drift". Thank you, madam.
Concierge: I'm not a "madam"! I'm a "concierge"!

143 posted on 11/06/2005 2:32:34 PM PST by Valin (Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum)
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To: w_over_w
Don't they know we have the best peanut-butter suet cakes in all of Santa Clarita?

Of course you do? Now just where did you hang that feeder? What I need is recent photos of your backyard sanctuary.

144 posted on 11/06/2005 5:11:02 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: w_over_w

1st ? should have been an !

I should have sent you a better suet feeder. One with a tail prop for the woodpeckers. Got any chickadees? or Bushtits? they like suet and can eat from the small cage.

145 posted on 11/06/2005 5:13:51 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: The Mayor; snippy_about_it; bentfeather; Samwise; Peanut Gallery; Wneighbor; radu; DollyCali; ...
Good morning ladies and gents. Flag-o-Gram.

146 posted on 11/06/2005 6:30:27 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Have you have your Breakfast yet?)
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To: bentfeather

Hi miss Feather

147 posted on 11/06/2005 6:31:48 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Have you have your Breakfast yet?)
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To: snippy_about_it

Howdy ma'am

148 posted on 11/06/2005 6:34:16 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Have you have your Breakfast yet?)
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On This Day In History

Birthdates which occurred on November 07:
0994 Muhammad ibn Hazm historian/jurist/writer of Islamic Spain
1598 Francisco de Zurbaran Spain, Baroque painter (baptized)
1832 Andrew Dickson White educator/1st President of Cornell
1867 Madame Marie Sklodowska Curie discovered radium (Nobel 1903, 1911)
1876 Culbert Olson Fillmore UT, (Gov-D-Cal)
1879 Leon Trotsky Russian Communist theorist, Founded the Red Army, Bolshevik
1883 Elder Lightfoot Solomon Michaux Newport News VA, TV preacher
1888 Sir Chandrasekhara Raman India, physicist (Nobel 1930)
1903 Dean Jagger Lima Ohio, actor (Albert Vane-Mr Novak, Elmer Gantry)
1903 Konrad Lorenz zoologist/ethologist/writer (Nobel 1973)
1913 Albert Camus Algeria, novelist/director (The Just-Nobel 1957)
1916 Joe Bushkin NYC, jazz pianist (A Couple of Joes)
1918 Billy Graham Charlotte NC, evangelist (Crusades)
1922 Al Hirt New Orleans LA, jazz trumpeter (Greatest Horn in the World)
1926 Joan Sutherland Sydney Australia, operatic soprano (Met Opera)
1936 Barry Newman Boston MA, actor (Amy, Deadline, Petrocelli)
1936 Gwyneth Jones Pontnewyndd Wales, soprano (Die Walkyre)
1937 Mary Travers (singer, Peter, Paul and Mary)
1938 Dee Clark Arkansas, singer (Hambone, Nobody But You)
1938 James Katt pitcher/sportscaster (NY Yankees, Minnesota Twins)
1942 Johnny Rivers singer (Secret Agent Man)
1943 Joni Mitchell Alberta Canada, singer (Clouds)
1944 Joe Niekro baseball knuckler (NY Yankees)
1949 Judy Tenuda comedienne (Spotlight Cafe)
1957 Dr Jonathan Palmer formula-1 racer
1957 Kathy McMillan long jumper (1976 Olympics silver)
1961 Mintcho Pachov Bulgaria, 67.5kg weightlifter (Olympic-bronze-1980)
1964 Liam O'Maonlai rocker (Hothouse Flowers-Don't Go)
1972 Christopher Daniel Barnes actor (Ross-Day by Day, As World Turns)
1972 Clive B. Barnes Portland Me, actor (Scott Hayden-Starman)

Deaths which occurred on November 07:
0739 Willibrord [Clemens], 1st bishop of Utrecht/saint 695-739, dies at 81
1225 Engelbert I, the Saint, archbishop of Cologne, murdered at 40
1573 Solomon Luria (Maharshal) talmudic author (Yam Shel Shelomo), dies
1796 Catharina II, "the Great", tsarina of Russia (1762-96), dies at 67
1837 Elijah P Lovejoy publisher, murdered by proslavery mob
1962 Eleanor Roosevelt Former 1st Lady, dies at 78 in NYC
1978 Gene Tunney former heavyweight boxing champ, dies at 80
1980 Steve McQueen Slater MO, actor, dies at 50
1992 Alexander Dubcek, premier Czechoslovakia (1968-69), dies at 70
1994 Michael O'Donoghue, comedian/writer (SNL), dies at 54

Take A Moment To Remember
GWOT Casualties

07-Nov-2003 7 | US: 7 | UK: 0 | Other: 0
US Staff Sergeant Morgan DeShawn Kennon Mosul - Ninawa Hostile - hostile fire - ambush
US Command Sergeant Major Cornell W. Gilmore I Tikrit (near) - Salah ad Din Hostile - helicopter crash (missile attack)
US Captain Benedict J. Smith Tikrit (near) - Salah ad Din Hostile - helicopter crash (missile attack)
US Sergeant Scott C. Rose Tikrit (near) - Salah ad Din Hostile - helicopter crash (missile attack)
US Staff Sergeant Paul M. Neff II Tikrit (near) - Salah ad Din Hostile - helicopter crash (missile attack)
US Chief Warrant Officer (CW3) Kyran E. Kennedy Tikrit (near) - Salah ad Din Hostile - helicopter crash (missile attack)
US Chief Warrant Officer (CW5) Sharon T. Swartworth Tikrit (near) - Salah ad Din Hostile - helicopter crash (missile attack)

07-Nov-2004 4 | US: 4 | UK: 0 | Other: 0
US Sergeant 1st Class Otie Joseph McVey Beaver, WV Non-hostile - illness
US Specialist Quoc Binh Tran Baghdad (western part) Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
US Lance Corporal Sean M. Langley Al Anbar Province Hostile - hostile fire
US Specialist Brian K. Baker Baghdad (western part) Hostile - hostile fire - car bomb

11/07/01 Davis, Bryant L. Machinist’s Mate Fireman Apprentice 20 Navy Arabian Sea

11/07/02 Pena, Pedro Specialist 35 Army Kuwait
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On this day...
0680 3rd Council of Constantinople (6th ecumenical council) opens
1631 Pierre Gassendi observes transit of Mercury predicted by Kepler
1775 Lord Dunmore, promises freedom to male slaves who join British army
1805 Lewis & Clark 1st sight Pacific Ocean
1811 Battle of Tippecanoe, gave Harrison a presidential slogan
(Tippecanoe and Tyler Too.)
1814 Andrew Jackson attacks and captures Pensacola, Florida, defeating the Spanish and driving out a British force.
1837 Abolitionist Elijah Lovejoy murdered by mob at Alton, Ill
1864 2nd session of congress of Confederate States of America reconvenes
1872 Mary Celeste sails from NY to Genoa; found abandoned 4 weeks later
1874 1st cartoon depicting elephant as Republican Party symbol, by Thomas Nast, a political cartoonist for "Harper’s Weekly", created a satirical drawing of an elephant about to fall into a giant hole. The elephant represented the Republican party and lampooned Ulysses S. Grant’s (R) possible bid for a third term.
1875 Verney Cameron is 1st European to cross equatorial Africa
1876 Edward Bouchet, is 1st black to receive a PhD in US college (Yale)
1876 Meharry Medical College established at Central Tennessee College
1876 President Rutherford B Hayes & Samuel J Tilden claim presidential victory
1885 Canadian Pacific Railway completed at Craigellachie
1893 State Colorado accept female suffrage
1909 Knights & Ladies of St Peter Claver organizes in Mobile Alabama
1914 Japan attack German concession on Chinese peninsula of Shanghai
1915 Austrian submarine torpedoes Italian passenger ship (272 kill)
1916 Grand duke Nikolai Nikolayevich warns czar of uprising
1916 Jeannette Rankin (Mont-R-Rep) 1st woman Representative
1916 Woodrow Wilson (D) re-elected President
1917 British capture Gaza Palestine from the Turks
1917 Russia's October (Bolshevik) Revolution continued as forces led by Vladimir Ilyich Lenin overthrew the provisional government of Alexander Kerensky.
1918 Goddard demonstrates tube-launched solid propellant rockets
1918 United Press erroneously reports WW I armistice had been signed
1921 Benito Mussolini declares himself to be leader of the National Fascist Party in Italy.
1933 Pennsylvania voters overturn blue law, by permitting Sunday sports
1934 Arthur L Mitchell, becomes 1st black Democratic congressman (Ill)
1940 Tacoma Narrows (Galloping Gertie) Bridge collapses, Wash
1942 1st US President to broadcast in a foreign language-FDR in French
1943 Detroit Lions 0, NY Giants 0; last scoreless tie in NFL
1944 FDR wins 4th term in office, defeating Thomas E Dewey (R)
1951 Constitution of Jordan passed
1955 Supreme Court of Baltimore bans segregation in public recreational areas
1962 Glenn Hall set NHL record of 503 consecutive games as goalie
1962 Richard Nixon quits politics-You won't have Nixon to kick around
1963 1st black AL MVP-Elston Howard, NY Yankees
1964 NL keeps Braves in Milwaukee in 1965, can move to Atlanta in 1966
1966 Lunar Orbiter 2 launched by US
1967 Carl B Stokes elected 1st black mayor of a major city-Cleveland, Ohio
1967 LBJ signs a bill establishing Corporation for Public Broadcasting
1970 Race riots in Daytona Beach Florida
1972 President Nixon (R) re-elected defeating George McGovern (D)
1973 NJ becomes 1st state to allow girls into the little league
1976 "Gone With the Wind" televised
1982 Liz Taylor's 7th divorce (John Warner)
1983 Ali Haji-Sheikh kicks his 2nd NY Giant record 56 yard field goal
1983 Bomb explodes in US Capitol, causing heavy damage but no injuries
1985 Colombian troops end 27-hr siege of Bogota's Palace of Justice
1988 MLB all stars beat Japan 16-8 (Game 3 of 7)
1988 Sugar Ray Leonard KO's Donnie LaLonde
1989 Douglas Wilder elected 1st US black governor (D-Va)
1989 NYC elects its 1st black mayor (Dinkins) & female comp (Holtzman)
1991 Magic Johnson announces he has HIV virus & retires from Lakers

2000 Americans went to the polls for an election that would result in indecision for George W. Bush and Al Gore, with Florida's disputed electoral votes emerging as critical.

2000 Hillary Rodham Clinton became the first first lady to win public office, defeating Republican Rick Lazio for a U.S. Senate seat from New York.
2001 U.S. led jets resumed bombing in northern Afghanistan, targeting Taliban positions near the country's northeastern border with Tajikistan.
2002 Atlanta police said ballistic tests have linked a fatal shooting at an Atlanta liquor store in September to the suspected Washington-area snipers.

2004 Battle for Fallujah begins.

Note: Some Holidays are only applicable on a given "day of the week"

Mexico : National Railway Memorial Day (1907)
USSR, Bulgaria, Hungary, Mongolia : October Revolution Day (1917)
US : PMS Stress Day
US : Pun Day (A pun is it's own reword)
World : International Cat Week (Day 2)
National Bittersweet Chocolate with Almonds Day
International Doll Collectors Month

Religious Observances
Christian : World Community Day (pray for peace)
RC, Ang : Com of St Willibrord, archbishop of Utrecht, Missionary to Frisia
Luth : Commemoration of John Heyer, missionary to India

Religious History
1637 Controversial colonial religious leader Anne Hutchinson, 46, was convicted of spreading heresy and banished from the Massachusetts Bay Colony. Mrs. Hutchinson afterward relocated in Rhode Island with her family and friends.
1793 During the French Revolution, "Christianity" was abolished on this date. Reason was deified, and as many as 2,000 churches were afterward destroyed throughout France.
1828 Birth of American biblical lexicographer Joseph Henry Thayer. A Congregationalist pastor, Thayer's main interest was New Testament language and in 1886 he published his definitive "Greek_English Lexicon of the New Testament."
1837 American Presbyterian abolitionist and newspaper editor Elijah P. Lovejoy, 35, was murdered. Forced earlier to move his business from St. Louis to Alton, Illinois, Lovejoy was shot during the night by an anti_abolitionist mob while defending his presses.
1847 Birth of Will L. Thompson, American songwriter. With a major interest in sacred music, Thompson's pen has left the Church two enduring hymns: "Jesus is All the World to Me" and "Softly and Tenderly Jesus is Calling."

Source: William D. Blake. ALMANAC OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH. Minneapolis: Bethany House, 1987.

Red the world's richest cat
From: Agence France-Presse
November 05, 2005

A LIFELONG bachelor who amassed a fortune by living simply left all his money to his cat after his death, The Ottawa Citizen has reported.

Canadian David Harper, the shy and somewhat reclusive owner of Red the cat, died in March at the age of 79, but left an estate worth $A1.5 million to his beloved tabby.

The United Church of Canada would administer the funds, in accordance with Harper's will, and be responsible for the three-year-old cat's care, feeding and veterinarian bills for the rest of its life, the newspaper reported.

Thought for the day :
"Stupidity has a knack of getting its way."
Albert Camus

149 posted on 11/07/2005 6:47:54 AM PST by Valin (Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum)
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To: Valin

Thanks for the link to talking proud.

150 posted on 11/07/2005 7:18:24 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it
Hey Sweetie,

I'll post a pic of where I hung suet feeder. I'm sure the one we have will suffice. I know we have bushtits and black phoebes but I'm not sure about the chickadees . . . I'll have to look more carefully. They really have some cute markings.


151 posted on 11/07/2005 7:19:29 AM PST by w_over_w (This tagline is blank, well, not actually blank but it would be if I didn't just tell you.)
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To: w_over_w

I just hope someone is eating the suet!


152 posted on 11/07/2005 7:26:18 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it

Shameless Plug
Nov. 7 2004: The 2nd Battle of Fallujah begins
Talking Proud ^
/Shameless Plug

153 posted on 11/07/2005 7:30:08 AM PST by Valin (Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum)
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To: Valin

You know these could just as well have been Foxhole threads. ;-)

154 posted on 11/07/2005 7:34:32 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Valin
1916 Grand duke Nikolai Nikolayevich warns czar of uprising

So, did the czar listen? I'm waiting in anticipation.

155 posted on 11/07/2005 9:52:42 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Have you have your Breakfast yet?)
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To: snippy_about_it

Howdy ma'am

156 posted on 11/07/2005 9:54:02 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Have you have your Breakfast yet?)
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To: Professional Engineer; snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; Valin; bentfeather; All
Much delayed Monday bump for the Freeper Foxhole

A little Monday evening humor, no?


alfa6 ;>}

157 posted on 11/07/2005 7:00:46 PM PST by alfa6 (He who hath so hath who he)
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WOO HOO alfa6! Whoa that is some machine.

How's things??

158 posted on 11/07/2005 7:02:06 PM PST by Soaring Feather
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159 posted on 11/07/2005 7:23:03 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Professional Engineer

ooh. I'll take a 57 chevy please.

160 posted on 11/07/2005 7:23:32 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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