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The FReeper Foxhole Revisits The Battle for Tarawa (11/20-23/1943) Nov. 20th, 2006
http://history.acusd.edu/gen/WW2Timeline/CRAIGE/tarawa.html ^ | Professor Dirk A. Ballendorf

Posted on 11/19/2006 6:34:02 PM PST by snippy_about_it



Lord,

Keep our Troops forever in Your care

Give them victory over the enemy...

Grant them a safe and swift return...

Bless those who mourn the lost.
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for all those serving their country at this time.



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THE BATTLE FOR TARAWA
A Validation of the U.S. Marines

THE ROAD TO TARAWA




At the Quebec conference in August of 1943, the Allied high command announced it's intention to launch an offensive in the Central Pacific, in the drive towards Japan. A prime objective of this drive, to be undertaken as a Navy-Marines operation, was to take the Marshall Islands. The Marshall Islands would serve as an air base from which further operations could be launched against the Marianas, and from there against the Japanese home islands. But 500 miles to the southeast of the Marshalls, an archipelago of atolls called the Gilberts stood between U.S. forward ground air bases and the Marshalls. The Gilberts had only one workable airstrip for refueling American aircraft and that was on the island of Betio in the western Gilbert Island atoll of Tarawa.



The Japanese commander in charge of the defense of Tarawa, Rear Admiral Keiji Shibasaki, said "A million men cannot take Tarawa in a hundred years." He commanded 2,600 imperial marines, the best amphibious troops in the Japanese armed forces. With the importation of 1,000 Japanese workers and 1,200 Korean laborers the island airstrip of Betio had been transformed into one of the most formidable fortresses in the world, boasting 14 coastal defense guns(four of which were taken from the surrendered British garrison at Singapore), 40 strategically located artillery pieces, covering every approach to the island, a coconut-log sea wall four feet high lining the lagoon and over 100 machine gun emplacements behind the wall. All this was concentrated on an island only a mile long and a few hundred yards wide.

Meanwhile an armada of 17 carriers, 12 battleships, eight heavy and four light cruisers, 66 destroyers and 36 transports carrying the 2nd Marine Division and a part of the 37th Infantry Division- some 35,000 soldiers and Marines headed for Betio in early November of 1943. In the moments before pre-invasion bombardment began, the task force naval commander, Rear Admiral Howard F. Kingman announced to the landing troops "Gentlemen, we will not neutralize Betio. We will not destroy it. We will obliterate it!" Neither Shibasaki nor Kingman knew what they were up against.



NOVEMBER 20: D-DAY


On November 20th at 2:15 A.M. the marine transports went to General Quarters. Last minute landing preparations were made and the marines received their last rites. At 5:05 A.M. the first battleship let loose a salvo on Betio's coastal batteries, followed shortly thereafter by the other battleships and destroyers in the task force. The shelling stopped only for enough time to let the dive bombers from the escort carriers pound the island. The first wave of amphtracks and Higgins boats moved in on the lagoon side of Betio. The formation was jolted to a stop 500 yards out by a reef which the amphtracks could climb over only with great difficulty. Simultaneously, a hail of fire opened up from the island, incinerating the lodged and incoming boats as well as mowing down the marines wading ashore. Few of the first wave survived. But a few got through, and with the help of four successive waves the marines established a beachhead up to a four foot sea wall.



By nightfall, the marines were pinned down on a stretch of beach 100 yards long and 20 feet inland. And rather than being obliterated, the Japanese marines had barely been scratched by the naval and air bombardment. While a brief respite between bombardment and the landings had occurred, the Japanese rushed to their gun posts and had delivered devastating fire. But because their communication lines had been cut, none of them knew what was going on. Therefore, according tot the Bushido Code, each isolated soldier or group of soldiers was obliged to either fight to the death or commit suicide unless ordered otherwise.

Consequently, Japanese resistance was fanatical. Some Japanese swam out to disabled amphtracks that night and poured fire onto the marines from the rear- silenced only at great cost to the marines. And a lone Japanese seaplane-turned-bomber easily inflicted casualties on the concentrated beachhead. In all, the first day on Betio had been very costly for the 2nd Division- amphtracks and Higgins boats littered the lagoon, wounded marines everywhere, and dead bodies and parts of bodies everywhere: out of 5,000 men, 1,500 were dead or wounded.



NOVEMBER 21: THE SECOND DAY


At the beginning of the second day, three marine battalions held a small foothold on Betio's lagoon beach. They were ordered to attack at 6:00 A.M. while the 2nd Division reserves, the 1st and 3rd battalions of the Eighth Marines were brought up to the reef. As the Japanese defenders opened up on the wading-in marines, Colonel Shoup of Major Crowe's battalion at the far east side of the lagoon ordered a desperate attack to halt the slaughter of incoming marines. Only 450 of the 800 incoming men made it to the beach. But with this fresh reserve, the central battalion punched its way inland, across the airstrip, and seized a part of the island's sough shore. Meanwhile a high tide flooded the lagoon, allowing reinforcement boats to pass over the reef and come directly up to shore. The arrival of tanks in support of all three battalions on the beachheads proved critical that day. The tanks rolled up to the front lines, taking out Japanese pill boxes and other fortifications at close range.



By dusk, the 6th Marines, after having secured the nearby island of Makin, paddled over the reef in rubber boats and landed on the western beach. There, they met up with Major Ryan's ravaged western lagoon assault battalion. Reinforced, and having gained ground, the second day came to an end. Marine Colonel Shoup radioed the daily situation report back to the command ships: "Casualties: many. Percentage dead: unknown. Combat efficiency: we are winning." Meanwhile, Admiral Shibasaki was sending his last radio message to Tokyo: "Our weapons have been destroyed. From now on everyone is attempting a final charge. May Japan exist for ten thousand years!"



NOVEMBER 22: THE THIRD DAY


On the third day, all three battalions moved inland, with the 1st Battalion, 6th Marines sweeping up the southern shore of Betio. With infantry and flame thrower support, tanks blew apart the remaining fortifications in the central and western part of the island. Taking out pill boxes, machine gun nests and snipers took up much of this third day. But by nightfall, the marines held western and central Betio. At twilight, Shibasaki's troops made one final courageous 'Banzai' suicide charge. They rushed the 6th Marines, Company B in almost overpowering numbers. The marines began to break. Lieutenant Thomas phoned Major Jones, saying "We are killing them as fast as they come at us, but we can't hold much longer; we need reinforcements." Jones replied, "We haven't got them to send you; you've got to hold." In the face of heavy losses, the 6th Marines wavered, but didn't break. When dawn appeared, the marines still held their positions.



NOVEMBER 23: THE FINAL ACT


On the morning of November 23rd, the 6th Marines counted 300 Japanese bodies scattered around their positions. As it turned out, this group of Japanese had been the last large contingent on Betio with only small pockets of resistance remaining. And following a painstaking mop up of the eastern side of the island, Japanese resistance, with the exception of a few snipers who would continue to take pot shots at marines for the next several days, came to an end. For at 1:12 P.M., after 76 hours of fighting, Betio was declared 'secure'. Upon arriving at Betio that day, General Holland Smith ordered both the Stars and Stripes and the Union Jack to be raised over Betio(for Betio was to revert to the British as a Pacific trust after the war). The general then toured the island west of the airport. He noted that only seventeen Japanese had surrendered while only 129 Korean laborers had survived out of a total of 4,700 troops and construction workers



THE VALUE OF TARAWA


In the 76-hour fight for Betio, 1,056 marines and sailors were killed, died of wounds or were missing and presumed to be dead. Some 2,300 men were wounded, but recovered. Meanwhile, at home, Americans were appalled by the losses at Tarawa, flooding Admiral Nimitz's mail with angry letters. But Tarawa had taught the navy and the marines some vital lessons in amphibious warfare which in the near future, would save thousands of lives. More amphtracks were to be built with better armor, including side protection for marines. Higgins boats were removed from landing operations. Landing craft were converted into supporting gunboats, able to come in close on the beach. Underwater demolition teams were organized to destroy natural and artificial obstacles before future atoll landing would take place. Precision rocket and naval attacks had proven their worth against the near impregnable fortifications. And the role of the tank in turning the tide of battle proved critical. All these lessons would be applied to future campaigns with great success.



The price for Betio had been relatively high, but within days, Betio was converted into a forward base for the assault on the Marshalls, with bomber and fighter sorties flying out within hours of the marines victory. And within nine weeks of the battle, an invasion task force under Admiral Nimitz left Tarawa to take the Marshall Islands.



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Marines who would not have their deeds recorded, or recognized by earning a medal went about the deadly business of survival and winning a battle. Here and there small groups of Marines, most led by brave privates, took tiny patches of ground. The extraordinary requirement to wade across 700 yards of coral reef, totally exposed to withering machine gun fire and accurately registered artillery salvos, was faced be almost every single Marine in the Division. That simple act required braver and fortitude to succeed. PFC. Bill Clear, 8th Marines, recalled the wade in, "Jeez, the fire was heavy as hell as we went in. I was scared to death." Lieutenant Commander Robert A. McPherson, a pilot flying over the atoll, described what he saw, "The water never seemed clear of tiny men, their rifles held over their heads, slowly wading beach wards. I wanted to cry." "Yet this reef was crossed by men wading the reef with the determination, courage and endurance to carry on to the end in order to secure the island of Betio," declared Lt. General Julian Smith. "In the chaos, the life of every Marine depended quite simply on his willingness to risk it." How or why did Marines in small groups or singularly, usually on their own or under the direction of a local leader, and all completely removed from the doctrine of amphibious warfare, move forward? Inside enough men, willing to risk their lives, were qualities not listed in the Tentative Man2walfor Landing Operations.



The qualities can best be identified by men who lead the marines into battle. Colonel T. A. Culhane, Jr., Operations Officer, 2nd Marines identified the intangible qualities, "More important than all the techniques [of amphibious assault], was the high state of training and discipline of the individual Marine, his morale, and his confidence and determination to continue the attack even though those about him became casualties." Lt. Colonel Howard J. Rice, Exec., 2/2 focused in on the morale factor, "Before we hit the beach we knew it would be grim business. But we intended and expected to win, even when we held only a narrow naked beach. But, I must admit this confidence was based on nothing more tangible than a faith, a faith shared by all Marines, that Marines always finished a job assigned." Lt. Colonel William T. Bray, C.O., Company All/2, was even more succinct, "The value of sound training and the spirit of comradeship, which comprises a fundamental pillar of Marine Corps life, still stand foremost in my mind as the primary reason for victory at Tarawa." Joseph Alexander believes that an important factor from training permitted the marines to sustain morale and operations longer than the Japanese in the intense battle. Alexander writes, "The Marines' intensive, preliminary field training and strenuous conditioning prior to combat gave them an edge as the battle entered into the third day." Edwin Hoyt saw the training in a different beneficial light, "here the hard training of the marines showed itself; men, from the remnants of several different companies, adjusted to complete change of command and operating procedure under heavy fire without a whimper, and moved on to fight as though it had all been planned this way." These were officers and leaders viewing from the topside of command down to the ranks. The men in the ranks may have reacted that way from training but self -motivation may have been more personal and human related.



The espirt de corps of the Marines was operating in the inferno of the battle. The esprit de corps was extremely high in the Second Marine Division. But how did that play out on a individual basis? Richard Wheeler, a marine veteran who fought on Iwo, explained, in his book, A Special Valor, how the esprit emerged on Tarawa, "They were all Marines, and they were in this thing together, and they would do the best they could to uphold the Corps' reputation and sustain one another. Few men talked in terms of 'death before dishonor," but the ancient code applied." Robert Sherrod who witnessed it up close and personal described it this way, "It was inconceivable to most Marines that they should let another Marine down, or that they could be responsible for dimming the bright reputation of their corps."



This was demonstrated by the feeling among the Marines who held the tiny strip of beach on the first night. "There was no sense of panic in the lines as the Marines set up for night defenses." No one dared to let the Corps down or to let down the Marine lying next to him. It even extended to unknown Marines. Marines fought and died for other Marines, unknown and even unseen. "In those first desperate hours there had been only one way to get at the Japanese, and that was to get in and kill them, which usually meant getting killed oneself in the process. But enough marines had given their lives to let the beachhead live." Even fifty years later marines recall why they carried on. Norman Moisie, an amtrak driver in Company A, 2nd Amtrac Battalion, wrote on the fiftieth anniversary, "Still, not a day passes without memories of Tarawa, the spirit of the Marine Corps, and of all the good men with whom I served.

1 posted on 11/19/2006 6:34:06 PM PST by snippy_about_it
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Tarawa did turn out to be a "productive proving ground" for the amphibious doctrine. In fact every subsequent move in the drive across the central pacific was to be made with the mistakes of Tarawa in mind. The lessons learned and adjustments made to the doctrine helped take the Marshalls twice as fast with half the casualties. The practical lessons of amphibious warfare [at Tarawa] provided for adjustments and improvements in all six parts of the doctrine. But what must be recognized and remembered about Tarawa was that it was the individual marine, his courage, bravery and training which bought the victory and time for adjustment which sold the doctrine.



The doctrine may have been sound, and the correct method to seize an enemy base, island or hostile shore, but it was in disarray and failing on Tarawa. It took the Marines to catch and save it from failure; Marines who relied on traditional bedrock foundations of the Corps. Edwin Hoyt put it best, "without the heroism of the Marines at Tarawa, the entire course of the Central Pacific might have changed." Tarawa should not stand as the proof of amphibious doctrine, but as the symbol of raw courage and Marine tradition.

Additional Sources:

www.mcu.usmc.mil
www.history.navy.mil
www.ibiblio.org

2 posted on 11/19/2006 6:34:53 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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'The 2nd Marine Division has been especially chosen by the High Command for the assault on Tarawa...what you do there will set a standard for all future operations in the central pacific area.'

Major General Julian C. Smith
Commander of the U.S. 2nd Marine Division - November 1943

'Casualties many; Percentage of dead not known; Combat efficiency; we are winning.'

Colonel David M. Shoup, USMC,
Tarawa, 21 November 1943.

'The Marines fought almost solely on esprit decorps, I was certain. It was inconceivable to most Marines that they should let another Marine down, or that they could be responsible for dimming the bright reputation of their Corps.
The Marines simply assumed that they were the world's best fighting men.'

Robert Sherrod,
1943, regarding the battle at Tarawa


3 posted on 11/19/2006 6:35:25 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: James Ewell Brown Stuart; alfa6; Allen H; Colonial Warrior; texianyankee; vox_PL; Bigturbowski; ...



SARGE Says...
I Dug the Hole Now "FALL IN" to the FReeper Foxhole!




Good Monday Morning Everyone.

If you want to be added to our occasional ping list, let us know.


4 posted on 11/19/2006 6:41:25 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; Samwise; alfa6; The Mayor; Professional Engineer; Peanut Gallery; All
Good morning, FOXOLE!!

5 posted on 11/19/2006 6:49:36 PM PST by Soaring Feather (I Soar cause I can....)
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To: snippy_about_it

LOL, Love that picture of Sarge. ;)


6 posted on 11/19/2006 6:50:22 PM PST by Soaring Feather (I Soar cause I can....)
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To: snippy_about_it; sam

Do either of you know of a good video clip honoring Korean War or Viet Nam War vets? "Before They Go" is a beautiful one honoring WWII vets (our minister showed that one for Veterans' Day), and I've seen another one for Iraq vets, but none for Viet Nam or Korea. Any suggestions?


7 posted on 11/19/2006 8:03:24 PM PST by Humal
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To: snippy_about_it

Checking in.


8 posted on 11/20/2006 1:16:48 AM PST by PAR35
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To: snippy_about_it
The obvious lack of proper reconnaissance of the reef structure made necessary that 700 yard wade into machine gun fire. Using the imagination I see how difficult that long wade in was.

Notice that United States Army dogfaces waded in with the Marines. An old Okinawa Marine once straightened be out about the US Army. I was told in no uncertain terms that he would tolerate only respectful reference to the men of the US Army.

Admiral Nimitz (he took care of his men) began the Navy combat swimmers so something like Tarawa would not happen again. Swimmer teams later in the war made reef and beach reconnaissances; these teams came to be called Underwater Demolition Teams, generally referred to as UDT, and nowadays called SEAL Teams. SEAL trainees still make an open ocean swim that takes all night to finish.
9 posted on 11/20/2006 1:22:15 AM PST by Iris7 (Dare to be pigheaded! Stubborn! "Tolerance" is not a virtue!)
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To: snippy_about_it

((HUGS))Good morning Snippy and everyone at the Freeper Foxhole.


10 posted on 11/20/2006 2:59:18 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; Samwise; Professional Engineer; Soaring Feather; The Mayor; All
Monday Morning Bump for a semi-new :-) Freeper Foxhole.

Regards

alfa6 ;>}

11 posted on 11/20/2006 5:20:51 AM PST by alfa6 (Taxes are seldom levied for the benefit of the taxed.)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; Soaring Feather; Professional Engineer; Samwise; Peanut Gallery; ...

November 20, 2006

God’s Little Blessings

READ: Psalm 36:5-10

How precious is Your lovingkindness, O God! —Psalm 36:7

Our family was at Disney World a  few years ago when God handed us one of His little blessings. Disney World is a huge place—107 acres huge, to be exact. You could walk around for days without seeing someone you know. My wife and I decided to do our own thing while our children sought out the really cool stuff. We parted at 9 a.m. and were planning a rendezvous around 6 p.m.

At about 2 p.m., my wife and I got a craving for tacos. We looked at our map and made our way to a Spanish-sounding place for Mexican food. We had just sat down with our food when we heard, “Hi, Mom. Hi, Dad.” Our three amigos had, at the same time, a hankering for a hot burrito.

Ten minutes after they joined us, a violent summer storm ripped through the park with whipping winds, heavy rain, and loud thunder. My wife commented, “I’d be a wreck if the kids weren’t with us during this!” It seemed that God had orchestrated our meeting.

Ever notice those blessings from Him? Ever spend time thanking Him for His concern and care? Consider how remarkable it is that the One who created the universe cares enough to intervene in your life. “How precious is Your lovingkindness, O God!” Dave Branon

Thank You, God, that You’re our Father,
Shepherd, Guardian, Guide, and Stay;
How we praise You for the blessings
You bestow on us each day!  —Sper

Belonging to God brings boundless blessings.

Bible in One Year:   Ezekiel 14-15; James 2


12 posted on 11/20/2006 6:22:57 AM PST by The Mayor ( http://albanysinsanity.com/)
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To: snippy_about_it

Morning Snippy! Thanks for the piece on Tarawa. I have a good friend by the name of Bill Simmons who was one of those UDT fellows. He was the only one of his original team to survive the war. Incredibly brave and tough guy yet one of the kindest and most gentle of persons. I'm proud to know such men.


13 posted on 11/20/2006 6:35:45 AM PST by Leg Olam ("Somethings got to go, either me or that wallpaper.." last words, Oscar Wilde)
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To: snippy_about_it

Thanks for the post, snippy. Tarawa was an invaluable lesson for which we paid a very high price.


14 posted on 11/20/2006 9:44:34 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: snippy_about_it

thank you for the post and ping.


15 posted on 11/20/2006 2:28:32 PM PST by tarawa
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To: Lee Heggy123

Good to see you Lee. When are you comin' to Georgia? Take Sam with you on one of your reenactments, he'd love it.

Tell Bill we said thank you.


16 posted on 11/20/2006 3:58:52 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: tarawa
I know how to make you talk post! :-)
17 posted on 11/20/2006 3:59:33 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: Soaring Feather
Sarge is sooo ornery.
18 posted on 11/20/2006 4:00:55 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: Humal

No but I'll look around. Great idea.


19 posted on 11/20/2006 4:01:39 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: PAR35

Thanks. How goes it?


20 posted on 11/20/2006 4:02:13 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: Iris7
An old Okinawa Marine once straightened be out about the US Army. I was told in no uncertain terms that he would tolerate only respectful reference to the men of the US Army.

Good for him.

21 posted on 11/20/2006 4:07:49 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: E.G.C.

((Hugs))


22 posted on 11/20/2006 4:08:15 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: alfa6; Soaring Feather

LOL.

Semi-new will have to do!


Hey, that rhymes....hey miss feather, my muse must be coming back. LOL.


23 posted on 11/20/2006 4:09:39 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: colorado tanker

You're welcome ct. One of the many we should never forget.


24 posted on 11/20/2006 4:16:51 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: The Mayor

Thank you Mayor.


25 posted on 11/20/2006 4:18:01 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: snippy_about_it

Great, your muse can sure be used!

There- that rhymes too.


26 posted on 11/20/2006 5:23:12 PM PST by Soaring Feather (I Soar cause I can....)
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To: snippy_about_it

Things are going well with the family. I've even gotten a couple of 2 day weekends. Did you all ever find a high speed connection to use?


27 posted on 11/21/2006 1:21:36 AM PST by PAR35
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November 21, 2006

Hearing Aid

READ: 1 Samuel 3:1-10

It shall be, if He calls you, that you must say, “Speak, LORD, for Your servant hears.” —1 Samuel 3:9 Joshua, a precocious 2-year-old,  watched his mother baking cookies. “Please, may I have one?” he asked hopefully. “Not before supper,” his mother replied. Joshua ran tearfully to his room, then reappeared with this message: “Jesus just told me it’s okay to have a cookie now.” “Jesus didn’t tell me,” his mother retorted. Joshua replied, “You must not have been listening!”

Joshua’s motivation was wrong, but he was absolutely right about two things: God longs to speak to us, and we need to listen.

In 1 Samuel 3, another young boy learned those same ageless principles. When Samuel followed Eli’s counsel and prayed, “Speak, LORD, for Your servant hears,” he was open to receiving God’s powerful message (v.9). Like Samuel, we long to hear God speaking to us but often fail to discern His voice.

God spoke audibly to Samuel. Today He speaks to us by His Spirit through the Scriptures, other people, and our circumstances. But as a result of neglect and nonstop activity, some of us have become “hard of hearing.” We need a “spiritual hearing aid” like the one in Samuel’s prayer: “Speak, LORD, for Your servant hears” (v.9). This humble attitude is a real help for the spiritually hard of hearing. Joanie Yoder

Adjusting Your Hearing Aid
Set a specific time to read God’s Word each day.
Meditate on what you have read.
Make prayer a priority throughout the day.

God speaks through His Word—take time to listen.

Bible in One Year:   Ezekiel 16-17; James 3


28 posted on 11/21/2006 4:31:50 AM PST by The Mayor ( http://albanysinsanity.com/)
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USS Princeton CVG-59 Bump for the Freeper Foxhole

Regards

alfa6 ;>}

29 posted on 11/21/2006 5:29:12 AM PST by alfa6 (Taxes are seldom levied for the benefit of the taxed.)
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To: snippy_about_it

Howdy!


30 posted on 11/21/2006 6:17:49 AM PST by CholeraJoe (Spork weasels ain't afraid of nuthin' but running out of sardines.)
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To: snippy_about_it

Snippy, We've yet to make up the itenerary for 2007 except for the usual local events such as Pea Ridge, Lexington Fort Scott and so on. We try to do at least one 'National' event a year. Last year it was Corinth Miss. There is one that I know of in Georgia. I'll give you the info on it below. We will do it if we can be artillery and the others agree. Some of us are having reservations about performing on actual battle sites. I personally regard it as somewhat sacriligious since theres no way we can ever properly portray what those men went thru and besides that there are still remains out there under the ground. Cannon demonstration and living history events are becoming more to our liking rather than pretending to kill each other. We're getting a bit too old to enjoy marching around in the sun wearing wool, carrying nine pounds of iron on our shoulders anyway.

Note that the info below is for 2006. I don't know if this is an annual event or not.

SEPT. 8-10 – Georgia – Battle of Tunnel Hill

Tunnel Hill. One of Georgia’s most enjoyable battle events held on the original battle and skirmish site, with an average of 1,200-1,500 participants. Usual amenities, well-shaded camps, artillery by invitation due to overwhelming gun turn-out last year, bounty to first 10 full-sized guns pre-registered and participating. Six-pounder and up (no scale pieces or mortars, please). Alabama Division Guidelines and Safety Rules in effect for this event. The ball will be held for period-attired participants Saturday night adjacent to the Austin House with the 8th Georgia Regimental band. Battles Saturday and Sunday. All Confederate units required to galvanize for one battle. Living history for area school children Friday morning beginning at 8 a.m. Volunteers needed and appreciated. Please send registration before Aug. 1. Sutlers register by Aug. 1. No reenactor registration fee for 2006. Sutlers by invitation, $35. Fee must accompany registration form. No on-site sutler registration. All profits from the gate go toward history preservation of War Between the States sites at Tunnel Hill and operating the new museum. Sponsored by the Tunnel Hill Historical Foundation, Inc. Hosted by the 35th Tennessee Infantry, Inc. and the 29th Alabama Infantry. For battle information, contact K.E. Sumner, 621 Victoria Lane, Woodstock, Ga. 30189 or e-mail MtnRifles@msn.com. Event coordinator: (770) 926-1229 (9 a.m.-2 p.m. EST) or visit www.alabamadivision.org or www.geocities.com/mntain2001/


31 posted on 11/21/2006 7:12:50 AM PST by Leg Olam ("Somethings got to go, either me or that wallpaper.." last words, Oscar Wilde)
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To: alfa6; SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; Professional Engineer; Peanut Gallery; Samwise; The Mayor; All

Good morning everyone.

32 posted on 11/21/2006 7:30:23 AM PST by Soaring Feather (I Soar cause I can....)
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To: The Mayor; Peanut Gallery
“Jesus just told me it’s okay to have a cookie now.”

Don't give Spiderboy any ideas!

33 posted on 11/21/2006 8:56:35 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Speel check? What for? It'll just become part of the FReeper lexicon.)
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To: Professional Engineer

ROFL! Actually, that sounds more like something bittygirl would do if she could say "Jesus"... It's just a matter of time!

Right now, she is repeating the new mantra, "I wan eggs, one a you, one a me, one a ta." Something tells me she's hungry for lunch?


34 posted on 11/21/2006 9:28:07 AM PST by Peanut Gallery
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To: alfa6

Is that the Air Force in front of a Marine bird? The must have seen it had wings on it and thought it was theirs......


35 posted on 11/21/2006 9:40:39 AM PST by USMCBOMBGUY (Made it back again......)
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To: USMCBOMBGUY
Naw that's the Zoomie version of the V-22

It's good to "see" ya back.

Regards

alfa6 ;>}

36 posted on 11/21/2006 10:55:08 AM PST by alfa6 (Taxes are seldom levied for the benefit of the taxed.)
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To: alfa6

I did not know the AF had any of those! Ya learn something new everyday... seriesly, though, my dad worked for Bell Helicopter/Textron (Hurst, TX) and all he could talk about (besides airplanes, cameras, motorcycles, and cars) was the V-22.


37 posted on 11/21/2006 12:57:30 PM PST by Peanut Gallery
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To: Lee Heggy123

Thanks Lee. I can't say I blame you for not wanting to march around in those clothes in this heat. As for whether or not to have reenactments on the actual battlefied I understand your dilema but I wonder, if it were you, if you were a soldier who fought and died there, would you rather folks forgot about it or would you rather have a reenactment going on over the same ground to try your best to tell the story?

I'm thinking the latter.


38 posted on 11/21/2006 4:24:41 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: CholeraJoe

Hi there!


39 posted on 11/21/2006 4:25:48 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: Soaring Feather

LOL. Maybe I'll write some prose while we are at Sam's parents. No internet connection at all!!


40 posted on 11/21/2006 4:27:45 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: PAR35

Hooray for two day weekends. :-)

I'm afraid all the other gadgets are beyond our price range. Sattelite and the new wireless through the phone cell towers... We'll have to wait until cable comes out our way or DSL but I don't think it will be soon. The guy who hooked up our Direct TV used to work for Bell South, he says there is no way, not enough homes out here even if everyone of us wanted DSL. :-(


41 posted on 11/21/2006 4:30:28 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: The Mayor

Good lesson today Mayor, thanks.


42 posted on 11/21/2006 4:32:27 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: snippy_about_it; Wneighbor; Samwise; Peanut Gallery; alfa6; bentfeather
Spiderboy may become Sparkyboy. We just finished building this radio for fun.

Loading the charge. Note now dead Leapster.


43 posted on 11/21/2006 7:26:11 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Speel check? What for? It'll just become part of the FReeper lexicon.)
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To: Professional Engineer
caption this:

44 posted on 11/21/2006 11:37:30 PM PST by Peanut Gallery
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To: Peanut Gallery

What the heck is that thing? OMG, it's huge.


45 posted on 11/22/2006 3:48:49 AM PST by The Mayor ( http://albanysinsanity.com/)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; Soaring Feather; Professional Engineer; Samwise; Peanut Gallery; ...

November 22, 2006

Heartprints

READ: Acts 9:36-43

Dorcas . . . was full of good works and charitable deeds. —Acts 9:36

We leave fingerprints on doorknobs, on books, on walls, on keyboards. Each person’s fingerprints are unique, so we leave our identity on everything we touch. Some supermarkets are even testing a technology that allows customers to pay by fingerprint. Each customer’s unique print and bank account number are kept on file so that the only thing needed to pay a bill is a scan of their finger.

A woman in the early church left another kind of print—a “heartprint.” Dorcas touched many people’s lives through her unique gift of sewing and giving away garments. She’s described as “full of good works and charitable deeds” (Acts 9:36). We too are to be “zealous for good works” (Titus 2:14). We each have a unique heartprint that can touch another.

An unknown author wrote this prayer about encouraging others: “O God, wherever I go today, help me leave heartprints! Heartprints of compassion, understanding, and love. Heartprints of kindness and genuine concern. May my heart touch a lonely neighbor or runaway daughter or anxious mother or even an aged grandfather. Send me out today to leave heartprints. And if someone should say, ‘I felt your touch,’ may that one sense Your love touching through me.”

Will you make this your prayer today? Anne Cetas

Just what do Christians look like?
What sets their lives apart?
They’re ordinary people
Who love God from the heart.  —D. De Haan

People with a heart for God have a heart for people.

Bible in One Year:   Ezekiel 18-19; James 4


46 posted on 11/22/2006 3:49:22 AM PST by The Mayor ( http://albanysinsanity.com/)
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Home from the night shift Bump for the Freeper Foxhole

Y'all have a great day

Regards

alfa 6 ;>}

47 posted on 11/22/2006 4:49:54 AM PST by alfa6 (Taxes are seldom levied for the benefit of the taxed.)
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To: Professional Engineer

Foxhole, Happy Thanksgiving!

48 posted on 11/22/2006 6:51:59 AM PST by Soaring Feather (I Soar cause I can....)
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To: The Mayor; Peanut Gallery

That my FRiend is a piece of coal mining aparatus being moved from one mine to another in Germany.

It was determined to be cheaper to drive it cross country than to disassemble it, move the pieces and reassemble.


49 posted on 11/22/2006 10:21:25 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Speel check? What for? It'll just become part of the FReeper lexicon.)
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To: The Mayor

It's an excavator used for open mining. I snagged the photo from the NASA website. Apparently, the holes these things dig can be seen from outer space.


50 posted on 11/22/2006 1:54:50 PM PST by Peanut Gallery
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