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Army getting a THUMBS down on doing away with Class A Greens and going to Junked Up Dress Blues.
SandRat

Posted on 09/13/2008 12:28:45 PM PDT by SandRat

Because I'm pointing you to the Army Times and they are on the list of "News Organs" that don't want any of their words post on FR I can only point you to the Army Times web site. You'll enjoy the words that the troops are giving to whoever made the decision (if you can call it that) to do away with the Class A Greens and go to a Junked Up Dress Blue uniform.

Army Times


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1 posted on 09/13/2008 12:33:18 PM PDT by SandRat
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To: SandRat
They look pretty good to me. :-)


2 posted on 09/13/2008 12:43:48 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: SandRat

Rule 19:

In most wars, the Army with the worst looking uniforms usually wins.


3 posted on 09/13/2008 12:43:53 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Never kick a leftist when they are down. Wait until they are halfway back up. You get more leverage!)
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To: SandRat
Yeah! What he said! Army's green where I come from. This is as stupid as that idiota suprema Shinseki trying to make the whole Army look like Rangers with the black beret.
4 posted on 09/13/2008 12:51:32 PM PDT by flowerplough ("If only America could be China for a day," NYT's Thomas Friedman, in 'Hot, Flat, and Crowded')
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To: Polybius

LOL! Civil War New York Zouaves, LOL!


5 posted on 09/13/2008 12:53:32 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

We wore blue up ‘til the early 20th century. We didn’t wear greens until the ‘50s. Bring back the blues [As a former tanker/ cavalry descendant, I’m partial].


6 posted on 09/13/2008 12:56:14 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: SandRat

lol re: the comment about getting the number for the fraud, waste and abuse hotline.

My opinion, as an Army wife who will have to look at my favorite man in this security guard wannabe get up: YUK! The PJ’s otherwise known as ACU’s are ugly enough. Please stop with the UGLY! LOL


7 posted on 09/13/2008 12:57:31 PM PDT by Cailleach
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To: PzLdr
Take a look at how they Junked Up the Blues http://www.militarytimes.com/projects/army_classa_flash/
8 posted on 09/13/2008 12:59:09 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Cailleach
Agreed.

You don't even want to hear what came from my Army wife's mouth about this; and I'm retired Army. It was on par with the low level of intellect that she ascribed to the order that entire Army go “French” and wear a beret.

9 posted on 09/13/2008 1:05:17 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat
My favorite was the Dress Greens....looked pretty slick with or without the jacket. The Marine Corps doesn't partake of such silliness -- find a good uniform and stick with it.


10 posted on 09/13/2008 1:07:52 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: SandRat

Someone posted a pic a week or so ago on this that had a pic of some ROTC cadets in very sharp khaki/forest green uniforms.

Tradition is ok, so long as the style comes with it. Going for old colors with new styles has made the Class A look really low-rent and not inspiring. Esprit de corps only works if you want to be part of that corps.


11 posted on 09/13/2008 1:08:24 PM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: SandRat
Take a look at how they Junked Up the Blues http://www.militarytimes.com/projects/army_classa_flash/

Was that a 3rd Division BREAST patch I just saw?

That just ain't right! Especiallly now that , ummm ... well, ya know, more women are seeing combat and, ummmm .... putting it there ... ummm..... well, ..... ummm .... That just ain't right!

12 posted on 09/13/2008 1:18:04 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: SandRat
Except for the stupid beret [I HATE those damn things], it looks basically like the blues they wear now [except for the unit patch on the pocket. I'd probably go with the dress blues we wear now, but I could live with that.

As an aside, my AOB class got informally polled on what distinct uniform we'd like for armor. We put in for black coveralls, and a black p*sscutter, all trimmed in Armor yellow, with tanker boots and either a branch scarf or black turtleneck. They turned it down. Reminded them of something they'd seen before.

13 posted on 09/13/2008 1:21:02 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Polybius

I like this one.

14 posted on 09/13/2008 1:23:49 PM PDT by SampleMan (Community Organizer: What liberals do when they run out of college, before they run out of Marxism.)
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To: Polybius

Yep,.. the Rock of the Marne. Your correct, it just ain’t right.


15 posted on 09/13/2008 1:27:53 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SampleMan

You like what’s under the beret. LOL!


16 posted on 09/13/2008 1:29:47 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

I ride the Metro every day with hundreds of soldiers (Blue Line to Pentagon and on to DC) in their camouflage and have to say they look hot, hot, hot. Uh, that is, very attractive and masculine. They even have camouflage notebooks, brief cases, messenger bags etc. and look great. I hope this doesn’t mean that is going to change.


17 posted on 09/13/2008 1:29:57 PM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: 3AngelaD
Could very well. Virginians and other Southern States may soon be having deja-vu night mares of the invading Army from the Northern War of Aggression.
18 posted on 09/13/2008 1:34:35 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: PzLdr
As an aside, my AOB class got informally polled on what distinct uniform we'd like for armor. We put in for black coveralls, and a black p*sscutter, all trimmed in Armor yellow, with tanker boots and either a branch scarf or black turtleneck. They turned it down. Reminded them of something they'd seen before.

Well, say what you will about the Nazis, you do have to give 'em credit for being snappy dressers.

Such worries were never a factor in the Navy in the 1980's when the Navy Winter Service Blues for officers was black pants, black shirt and a black p*sscutter. The saying was that we looked like the Good Humor Ice Cream man in the summer and the Waffen SS in the winter.

19 posted on 09/13/2008 1:49:05 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: SandRat

20 posted on 09/13/2008 1:54:29 PM PDT by piroque
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To: SandRat
I like the very last on at the bottom of the page here, First Special Service Force (WWII):

Here

21 posted on 09/13/2008 2:02:09 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: USMCPOP

That is what the Troops had asked for, but NOOOOOooooooo! The Uniform Board knew better.


22 posted on 09/13/2008 2:10:36 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

They should have gone for the Old WWI Pink and Tans. A khaki or Brown Uniform with variations like the WWII days. Long Brown Coat or Eisenhower Coat, Khaki pants, Khaki Shirt, Khaki Tie. That would look much better than the new ASU.


23 posted on 09/13/2008 2:38:12 PM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: StAthanasiustheGreat

The troops had even suggest that. The Screwed UP Blues idea was not even in the running of what the troops wanted.


24 posted on 09/13/2008 2:42:17 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: ErnBatavia

I was always partial to the Battle Jacket.


25 posted on 09/13/2008 2:56:43 PM PDT by gunner03 ("03" Mustang)
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To: SandRat

yuck. That Class B NCO uniform looks like someone designed it in the dark.
uuuuuugly!


26 posted on 09/13/2008 3:52:27 PM PDT by DeLaine (Socialism is the grandiose rationalization of petty resentments.)
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To: USMCPOP
LOL...I like how the jump wings are higher in precedence than the CIB...glad that changed!

I think the Army's on the right track by trying to whittle down the number of uniforms, and if it comes down to the greens or the blues, I'll take the blues any day of the week. Not sure I'm on board with the white shirt and all that, but I understand there needs to be some kind of replacement for the Class Bs as well as the As.

The ACUs were a major functional improvement over the BDUs, though I'm more than a little suspicious of that color's ability to camouflage me from anything.

The beret was a mixed bag. I hate having to wear the beret in ACUs (it's so much easier to put on the soft cap when you have your hands full), but it looks infinitely better than the Rosie O'donnell-ugly garrison cap in a dress uniform. Plus, taking the black color from the Rangers was dumb, especially since the tan beret actually looks better, if you ask me!

27 posted on 09/13/2008 4:04:55 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (How 'bout a magic trick? I'm gonna make this pencil disappear...Ta-dah!)
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To: Future Snake Eater
Rosie O'Donnell-Ugly garrison cap. LOL!!! Hillary Clinton works too!
28 posted on 09/13/2008 4:20:48 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon (Deport them all... Let God sort them out!)
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To: SandRat

I don’t understand the two shades of blue. It clashes.


29 posted on 09/13/2008 4:22:56 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Think Hollywood Cavalry movies with John Wayne.


30 posted on 09/13/2008 4:33:29 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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Beware of chaning uniforms..

Look at what former General Merrrill McPeak did to the Air Force Uniforms. The Army might regret going that route.


31 posted on 09/16/2008 3:53:15 AM PDT by Kitanis
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Beware of chaning uniforms..

Look at what former General Merrrill McPeak did to the Air Force Uniforms. The Army might regret going that route.


32 posted on 09/16/2008 3:53:22 AM PDT by Kitanis
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To: SampleMan
Photobucket

I'd surrender
33 posted on 09/16/2008 3:55:58 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: Kozak

I’d go down fighting...


34 posted on 09/16/2008 3:59:12 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Polybius

“Well, say what you will about the Nazis, you do have to give ‘em credit for being snappy dressers.”

Hugo Boss designed


35 posted on 09/16/2008 4:08:51 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Pat Paulsen for President - He has campaigned the longer than Obama)
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To: Kozak

Of what is this picture?


36 posted on 09/16/2008 4:11:14 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Pat Paulsen for President - He has campaigned the longer than Obama)
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To: Kozak

Surrender? Those are our new allies. I volunteer to be the Liaison Officer. There is a definite need for liaisoning there.


37 posted on 09/16/2008 5:41:42 AM PDT by SampleMan (Community Organizer: What liberals do when they run out of college, before they run out of Marxism.)
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To: School of Rational Thought

If you right click on a photo and select “properties” the file name and internet address will appear. That alone will generally tell you what you want to know, but you can always go to the address. FYI they are Ukrainians.


38 posted on 09/16/2008 5:45:06 AM PDT by SampleMan (Community Organizer: What liberals do when they run out of college, before they run out of Marxism.)
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To: School of Rational Thought

Ukrainian military parade.

Slava Narody!


39 posted on 09/16/2008 10:18:24 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: Apple Blossom

ping


40 posted on 09/16/2008 10:37:53 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Vote McWhatshisname and PALIN)
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To: trisham

The 2 different colors of blue are very traditional and significant. During the 1800’s and in the Cavalry western outposts, the Jacket was used specifically for cememonies and “dressy” occasions, and were stored away. The pants were used and worn daily, and thus became sun bleached and worn. The Army, keeping the tradition alive (for once), kept the off setting colors for this fact.


41 posted on 09/22/2008 11:47:32 AM PDT by jmpmstr4u2 (43 muscles to frown, 7 to smile and 4 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and tired of smiling.)
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To: jmpmstr4u2

Interesting. Thanks!


42 posted on 09/22/2008 11:49:26 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Kozak

We DEFINITELY need to protect Ukraine from Russia...


43 posted on 09/22/2008 11:55:45 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Mav & the Barracuda vs. Messiah and the Mouth)
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To: SandRat

I think the Army should return to the classic brown/khaki Class A of the 30’s and 40’s.


44 posted on 10/24/2008 7:29:47 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Say NO to marxism, say NO to 0bama)
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To: SandRat
That Class A Officer looks like he should be playing the bass drum in the Salvation Army marching band. ;)

Why not just go back to the WWII-era Eisenhower-style uniforms? Blue is OK, but they need to go back a lot further in history for styling cues.

45 posted on 10/24/2008 7:36:12 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: PzLdr

“Except for the stupid beret”

The Cavalry used to be the ones who wore the black beret, until the Rangers whined about it at some point.

“As an aside, my AOB class got informally polled on what distinct uniform we’d like for armor. We put in for black coveralls, and a black p*sscutter, all trimmed in Armor yellow, with tanker boots and either a branch scarf or black turtleneck. They turned it down. Reminded them of something they’d seen before.”

LOL


46 posted on 10/24/2008 8:02:42 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Say NO to marxism, say NO to 0bama)
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To: Kozak

MWR troops?


47 posted on 10/24/2008 8:06:11 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Say NO to marxism, say NO to 0bama)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

Torture Battalion.


48 posted on 10/24/2008 8:09:01 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: Kitanis
"Look at what former General Merrrill McPeak did to the Air Force Uniforms."

Oh you mean this?

"Make it so Number One." ROFLMAO!

49 posted on 10/24/2008 8:20:10 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Say NO to marxism, say NO to 0bama)
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To: 2CAVTrooper
That was the LAST Chief of Staff, General Michael Moseley little folly.

He was trying to reinstate the style of uniform from the 1920s... or something.. when that picture was released.. I was happily within two months of going on Terminal Leave for retirement.

50 posted on 10/24/2008 10:18:00 AM PDT by Kitanis
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