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Army picks MultiCam as new camo for Afghanistan
Stars and Stripes ^ | Mar 4, 2010 | Dan Blottenberger

Posted on 03/04/2010 1:33:48 PM PST by Pavegunner72

BAMBERG, Germany — The Army has selected the MultiCam as its new uniform for soldiers heading to Afghanistan, the Defense Department announced, following four months of testing by units in the combat zone.

MultiCams will be issued to units heading to Afghanistan starting in July. Those units include the 4th Brigade, 10th Mountain Division at Fort Polk, La.; the 1st Brigade, 4th Infantry Division at Fort Carson, Colo.; and the 2nd Brigade, 34th Infantry Division of the Iowa Army National Guard, according to the Program Executive Office Soldier Web site.

Soldiers in Afghanistan had identified the need for a new combat uniform, according to Col. Scott Mills of the Army Logistics Directorate, who spoke to Stars and Stripes about the uniforms in December when they started testing them.

Link to rest of story http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=68446

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TOPICS: VetsCoR
KEYWORDS: bdu; bdus; fatigues; garments; multicam; uniform; uniforms
FINALLY, the troops get what they need and want in a battle uniform.
1 posted on 03/04/2010 1:33:48 PM PST by Pavegunner72
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To: Blue Jays
Some of the functional design changes look very well-considered, too.
Our brave troops around the globe deserve the best equipment possible.
2 posted on 03/04/2010 1:38:01 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Pavegunner72

looks pretty good!

3 posted on 03/04/2010 1:39:08 PM PST by robomatik
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To: Pavegunner72

Now...if the USAF could just follow suit.


4 posted on 03/04/2010 1:39:50 PM PST by TankerKC (Law Enforcement IS Big Government.)
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To: robomatik

I don’t see anything.


5 posted on 03/04/2010 1:40:45 PM PST by tnlibertarian
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To: Pavegunner72

I’ll have nightmares tonight after seeing camos. I used to have to wash, starch, and iron the old ones for my husband. I hated them!!!!


6 posted on 03/04/2010 1:42:24 PM PST by KYGrandma (The sun shines bright on my old Kentucky home......)
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To: tnlibertarian
I don’t see anything.

Now that's funny right there!

7 posted on 03/04/2010 1:42:35 PM PST by TexGuy (If it has the slimmest of chances of being considered sarcasm ... IT IS!)
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To: Pavegunner72

We seemingly change combat unifroms every time we swap out the Command Sergeant Major of the Army....

This one will be tossed in a few years as well. The burden goes to the troops, who have to buy all new uniforms every time the pentagon feels a breeze...

Plain Stupid.

Any uniform pattern will be less than ideal-all we need is a good design (meaning cut, pockets where they make sense and proper material-like flame/blast resistant yet cool enough to be reasonable) who cares what “color and camo pattern” they are for the most part.


8 posted on 03/04/2010 1:42:39 PM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" (my spelling is generally korrect!))
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To: KYGrandma

Good news for my wife Grandma- all the new ones are wash and wear. God Bless you and your hubby for your service.


9 posted on 03/04/2010 1:44:25 PM PST by Pavegunner72
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To: tnlibertarian

who? what? where? :)


10 posted on 03/04/2010 1:45:26 PM PST by robomatik
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To: Manly Warrior

Agreed the changes are insane in the military now.

I work in a unit that has been wearing these multicams for years now. They are FAR superior in color pattern and serviceability.

http://www.multicampattern.com/


11 posted on 03/04/2010 1:47:29 PM PST by Pavegunner72
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To: Pavegunner72
I was watching an Army-Navy game a few years ago on TV and when the camera panned the stands from one of the ends of the field. It looked as though a good chunk of the bleachers had no people in them. I felt sorry for the football players because this was their big game and it looked like a third of the stadium had no people in the seats.

Then they did a close up of what I thought were empty seats, only to realize that the stadium was indeed filled with soldiers wearing camo.

12 posted on 03/04/2010 1:49:27 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: robomatik

It would work well here in Texas (Summer and deer season)


13 posted on 03/04/2010 1:53:26 PM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Pavegunner72

My daughter, wife, and I drive through Crystal City (near the Pentagon) every morning on the way to work and school. One morning, my wife commented that she didn’t recall seeing so many soldiers before. (It was after 9/11). My precious 8 year old immediately said, “that’s because they’re all wearing camouflage mommy.” It was a proud moment for me.


14 posted on 03/04/2010 1:56:25 PM PST by KingLudd
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To: robomatik
Looks like something the Waffen SS came up with.

Do not like.

15 posted on 03/04/2010 2:01:19 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: KYGrandma

Starch?

Starch makes clothing light up like a glow bug with active night vision.


16 posted on 03/04/2010 2:07:50 PM PST by IBIAFR
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To: wolfcreek

Damn, now I’m going to have to repaint my truck. I wonder where I can find a can of MultiCam paint?


17 posted on 03/04/2010 2:10:26 PM PST by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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To: Pavegunner72

>>The new uniform is also fire resistant, according to the PEO Soldier Web site.

Wow!


18 posted on 03/04/2010 2:12:31 PM PST by max americana
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To: BubbaBasher

Orange County Chopper showed a guy who can apply a camo finish to anything metal using a dipping tank.


19 posted on 03/04/2010 2:12:55 PM PST by LoveUSA (What are we waiting for?)
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To: Pavegunner72

Would the military feel the same about changing patterns so often if they provided all uniforms for service men and women?


20 posted on 03/04/2010 2:13:49 PM PST by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: TheBattman

They provide initial issue at boot camp and sometimes before deployments, then it becomes the member responsibility to buy replacements using the yearly individual uniform allowance.


21 posted on 03/04/2010 2:15:54 PM PST by Pavegunner72
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To: Pavegunner72
Best Army fatigues. Ever:


22 posted on 03/04/2010 2:17:05 PM PST by cll (I am the warrant and the sanction)
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To: BubbaBasher

Gotta be easier than the digital camo.


23 posted on 03/04/2010 2:20:08 PM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: The KG9 Kid

Looks like something the Waffen SS came up with.
Do not like.

Hey The KG9 Kid what was your response to the Kevlar helmet?


24 posted on 03/04/2010 2:21:29 PM PST by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: Pavegunner72

Does that “allowance” generally cover the full cost?


25 posted on 03/04/2010 2:23:13 PM PST by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: Pavegunner72
Has any one seen the new Navy camos?

If they use them on board ships and fall off I sure hope they have dye packs, strobes, and an ELT because they will never be found without them.

Lets not even get into the new uniforms my Air Force has. Ugh!

26 posted on 03/04/2010 2:25:48 PM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: TheBattman

Not even close. The wash and wear helped a little since we no longer were required to starch/press garrison uniforms.


27 posted on 03/04/2010 2:26:16 PM PST by Pavegunner72
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To: robomatik

It’s not as pretty as Mossy Oak or Realtree, though.


28 posted on 03/04/2010 2:27:52 PM PST by DBrow
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To: equalitybeforethelaw

Icing on the cake.


29 posted on 03/04/2010 2:28:02 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: OldMissileer

During Desert Storm I wore khakis on the deck of a gray painted merchant ship. Ok at sea but when docked in a questionable desert sea port I wished for simple janitor work gray.


30 posted on 03/04/2010 2:34:22 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: max americana

I’ll be watching Sportsman’s Guide for them :)


31 posted on 03/04/2010 2:37:09 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: IBIAFR

Honey, back then they didn’t have night vision. When he was in the Corps, they were using stuff left over from Korea. He was an air traffic controller, which now is done by computers. They loved to say they told pilots where to go.


32 posted on 03/04/2010 2:38:36 PM PST by KYGrandma (The sun shines bright on my old Kentucky home......)
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To: DBrow
"It’s not as pretty as Mossy Oak or Realtree, though."

true. the private sector is the best way to go. personally, i prefer mossy oak, but that's just me. :)

33 posted on 03/04/2010 2:39:04 PM PST by robomatik
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To: wolfcreek
Multicam works:


34 posted on 03/04/2010 2:44:51 PM PST by ironwill (III - Molon Labe)
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To: OldMissileer

My Marine friends think the Navy went with digitals to hide grease spots. Otherwise, the old Woodland and Desert patterns seemed to be fine on ship.

Desert MARPAT (USMC digital camo) isn’t all that great since it can fade a lot after washing and wearing. However, my Marine friends liked the elasticated cargo pockets and waist on the trousers and the angled chest pockets on the blouse.

The MultiCam pattern is available commercially and seems to have more brown than the above photo. It blends well at a distance according to a couple of Rocky Mountain sheep hunters I know who wore the pattern last season.


35 posted on 03/04/2010 2:46:06 PM PST by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: The KG9 Kid

36 posted on 03/04/2010 2:46:49 PM PST by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists".)
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To: DCBryan1
didn't the brit's have pink vehicles in wwII?


37 posted on 03/04/2010 3:10:27 PM PST by robomatik
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To: All

http://www.multicampattern.com/gallery


38 posted on 03/04/2010 3:19:58 PM PST by deks (So will Obama sign a bill that requires native Hawaiians to show a birth certificate?)
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To: TheBattman

It all depends on who is making the money from the changes.


39 posted on 03/04/2010 3:34:59 PM PST by seemoAR
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To: Pavegunner72

Hey just got news that the Pentagon is in lock down. Can’t post it. Go to Drudge...


40 posted on 03/04/2010 4:36:46 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: robomatik

LOL

YEs, and I painted more than a few Duce and halfs the same *itty pink. BUt it sure works out fine in the Desert - if you watch out for shadows, it is all but impossible to see from the air.

“COurse an F-4 doing 350KIAS isn’t going to see much on the ground anyway.....


41 posted on 03/04/2010 6:07:59 PM PST by ASOC (In case of attack, tune to 640 kilocycles or 1240 kilocycles on your AM dial.)
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To: wolfcreek
Gotta be easier than the digital camo.

heh... yeah... that would be a tough paint job.

But on the whole I really like the digital camo. I've got a couple of the 5.11 tactical shirts in the digital "woodland" pattern... and I think it looks great.

42 posted on 03/04/2010 6:31:19 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: robomatik

Mil surplus cammies are cheap, though! I have Canadian forest, South African Night, Alpenflage (well Sportsmens Guide calls it that), German Flektar, plus some others and the total cost is about the same as a Mossy oak jacket from Cabelas.


43 posted on 03/04/2010 8:18:08 PM PST by DBrow
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To: equalitybeforethelaw

Like many items in today’s military, camo was first used as a combat uniform on a regular basis by the Germans. And, yes, the Waffen SS “came up with” camo.


44 posted on 03/04/2010 8:28:59 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: DCBryan1

Actually, wearing the runes, rank insignia, and cuffband was against regulations, but most Waffen SS wore them anyway.


45 posted on 03/04/2010 8:31:17 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Pavegunner72

Now if they just dump the zipper and all that velcro, they’ll be set.


46 posted on 03/04/2010 8:45:14 PM PST by Terabitten (Vets wrote a blank check, payable to the Constitution, for an amount up to and including their life.)
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To: robomatik

Looks to me like old woodland BDUs that were just faded all to hell.

Of course, those worked better in the woods anyway. ;)


47 posted on 03/04/2010 8:46:07 PM PST by Terabitten (Vets wrote a blank check, payable to the Constitution, for an amount up to and including their life.)
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To: Terabitten
FYI: Here are several members of 101st (with others in their unit in foilage digitals) in the main column wearing the MultiCam pattern in Afghanistan.
48 posted on 03/05/2010 10:59:52 AM PST by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: robomatik

I read somewhere once that the reason those vehicles were pink is that they painted them a sand color that subsequently became pink when exposed to the harsh desert sun. The statement may be wrong, but I did read that somewhere.


49 posted on 04/04/2010 6:32:34 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Joe McCarthy was right. He was just early.)
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