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Navy X-47B
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Posted on 03/07/2014 9:47:19 AM PST by Paul46360

Just 5 months ago ( July 10, 2013 ) the Navy successfully conducted take-offs and landings from a fairly new nuclear aircraft carrier, the USS George H.W. Bush, with a new stealth jet called the X-47B.

What is so different about this plane is the fact that it is a 'drone'. Yes, it is completely unmanned. Drones come in all sizes, and the X-47B is likely one of the larger ones.

Note that this aircraft is stealth, meaning the enemy cannot detect a plane like this in the first place. In the unlikely event they get lucky at shooting one down, there will be no human loss of life or captivity.

As you view the flight deck crew signaling the plane, they are simply signaling the on-board cameras, which in turn are being manned by staff inside the command intelligence center ( CIC ) on board the ship

Although I'm an Air Force vet..anything plane is my cup of tea...


TOPICS: VetsCoR
KEYWORDS: aerospace; aviation; carrier; jet; navy; new

1 posted on 03/07/2014 9:47:19 AM PST by Paul46360
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To: Paul46360
.....meaning the enemy cannot detect a plane like this in the first place.

You can always detect them. It depends on from what aspect angle, what elevation, what frequency and waveforms you use, and whether you are looking for them.

2 posted on 03/07/2014 9:51:14 AM PST by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Gaffer

“You can always detect them...”

Yes, you can. I hate it when I see a stealth or LO platform described as “invisible.” Detection range and reaction delay are what LO accomplishes. Basically, you see them finally but it’s too late to do anything about it by then.


3 posted on 03/07/2014 9:55:28 AM PST by FAA
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To: Paul46360

The day will come when drones are the MOST HATED AND MOST FEARED thing in the skies above us.


4 posted on 03/07/2014 9:56:16 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Paul46360

OK...that’s cool. Even impressed an old Army vet.


5 posted on 03/07/2014 9:56:22 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: Paul46360

I was impressed with the apparently perfect landing. Maybe several landings were done but only the best left to air after editing? Most pilots don’t hit the 2-wire perfect, dead center without some bounce. Either there is some computer controlled approach and landing synced with the ship or the keyboard driver jockey has been playing this video game a long time.


6 posted on 03/07/2014 9:59:23 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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To: Tenacious 1

The target wire is the three wire.


7 posted on 03/07/2014 10:20:03 AM PST by newbolt
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To: newbolt
The target wire is the three wire.

I trust you are right and stand corrected. Was it always the case? Didn't earlier carriers have 4 wires?

8 posted on 03/07/2014 10:24:30 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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To: Tenacious 1

I was told by a Navy vet that computer controlled landing systems for carriers are so precise that they have to program in variability or the poundings of the aircraft at the same impact point will damage the flight deck at that spot.


9 posted on 03/07/2014 10:24:48 AM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

A friend of mine was an A-6 Intruder Driver for the Marines. He had to qualify on carrier landings during training. I asked him once about how they score landings. As I recall, he didn’t care how “they” scored them. Any landing that resulted with the plane stopped on the flight deck, in one piece, was “perfect”.


10 posted on 03/07/2014 10:34:09 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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To: Tenacious 1

I was referring to totally remote controlled landings. As for hands-on, a Nam vet P-2 driver told me that from the sky, his carrier looked like a postage stamp. When I asked him what a night landing was like, he said “an invisible postage stamp.”


11 posted on 03/07/2014 10:39:18 AM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Paul46360

One of my old bosses is involved in this program.

Yep, amazing. Entirely autonomous, except for the taxiing on the flight deck. That was the guys with the joy sticks you saw near the beginning doing the taxiing. But I understand they’re working on that too.

Can you imagine all the lines of code it took to do a carrier landing? What would be more interesting is at night during heavy weather.


12 posted on 03/07/2014 10:40:10 AM PST by afsnco
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To: Tenacious 1
I asked him once about how they score landings. As I recall, he didn’t care how “they” scored them. Any landing that resulted with the plane stopped on the flight deck, in one piece, was “perfect”.

A pilot friend described to me the difference between a good landing and a great landing. A good landing is one from which you can walk away. A great landing is if the airplane can take off again.

13 posted on 03/07/2014 10:45:41 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: Paul46360

Nice


14 posted on 03/07/2014 11:13:21 AM PST by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Talisker

Hmmm. I have plenty of carrier time as an aircrewman but I’ve never heard of a P-2 trapping aboard.


15 posted on 03/07/2014 11:53:20 AM PST by xvq2er
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To: xvq2er

P-2s were launched early in their service, doing RATO-boosted deck runs. But they couldn’t trap back aboard.

He probably meant Stoofs ...


16 posted on 03/07/2014 11:58:40 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: newbolt

Iirc carriers these days only employ three wires normally, rather than four.

The Ford Class was designed from the outset with only three wires.


17 posted on 03/07/2014 12:00:23 PM PST by tanknetter
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19 posted on 03/07/2014 1:04:42 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: xvq2er

I know he flew P-2s & P-3s, I assumed the P-2 was the carrier-based duty. Apparantly not. What ASW plane was flown from carriers during VN? That would have to be it.


20 posted on 03/07/2014 1:05:10 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

S-2


21 posted on 03/07/2014 1:10:12 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Tenacious 1
There are a lot of things that go into how good or bad the rollout looks. I've flown great passes that rocked my world, and flown bad passes that felt soft on the rollout.

All of the X-47 passes are flown on ACLS (automatic carrier landing system), a microwave radar system that locks onto a specific beacon on the aircraft. That allows very precise deviation information, corrected for ship's movement. The system provides a completely automated approach, even for properly equipped manned aircraft.

I flew A model Tomcats with the old analog flight control system and I never even tried a coupled approach. I didn't trust the auto throttle system enough to even try that.

22 posted on 03/07/2014 1:23:02 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Talisker

“What ASW plane was flown from carriers during VN? That would have to be it.”

That would likely be the S2F (by Grumman). A stubby twin radial engine beast.


23 posted on 03/07/2014 1:26:32 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: FAA

I hate it when I see a stealth or LO platform described as “invisible.”

It’s the new “unsinkable”.


24 posted on 03/07/2014 1:29:01 PM PST by Ready4Freddy
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To: afsnco

and you can BET that WIND-BLOWS code was not used...hehehe


25 posted on 03/09/2014 1:58:59 PM PDT by Paul46360
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To: Paul46360

Can any one make heads or tails of this crap, I don’t understand it. Hubby it Tricare Life secondary to Medicare.

I cannot make heads nor tails of this new Pilot Program. Most of the drugs are not available on the Navy base in Millington.

I’m not adverse to a generic as long as it works the same and I don’t react to them, I take only 2 name brands, Nexium & Synthroyid, rest are generic. There are just a few that the doc wants to change like Lore Tabs to Norco, Has to be something different in the fillers, I may get constipation with Lore Tabs, but that Norco knocked me on my butt in 10 mins, and took 3 days to get out of my system. I was growing addicted to them, the 5mg went to 10, then 20 mg and I’d need them all several times a day. I am in that much pain. A simple trip to the doc can wipe me out for the rest of the day.

We get Nexium @ generic price as it is. Now my Synthroid, they don’t cover that well. All mine could be described I guess as maintenance as I take most of them daily only 2 do I take as needed those are for Meniere’s attics.

This is going to hurt small stand alone pharmacies, like the one I have used for 30 yrs. Lot of maintenance is not available at the Naval Base, certainly not the Name Brands. it is a night mare to use. Choices are so limited. You are a number not a person.

The biggest fear is them just throwing them up on the porch with out the patient signing for them. My doses, meds change so often that what they want does NOT work for me. When I need a drug at 2 am in the morning they are NOT open. Those we get from CVS which is open all night. Usually after a ER visit. Of which there are to many, some of them drug caused, as several of my health conditions are DRUG INDUCED. Or if the doctor orders a change in the middle of a 3 month supply because it A is not working B side effects C causing harm. Got another one of those supposed to play well with my Synthroid and no side effects drugs yesterday to treat a DRUG INDUCED IBS issue. I don’t know where they get their info from, but it sure as heck does not match Drug.com. Linzess has a page of side effects and I react to any thing that says PAIN, reflux, muscle, constipation, vision, hearing or dizziness. And it does not play well with Nexium or Synthroid, D3 and B12, which I have to take.

Why can’t the doctor read a reaction history before they prescribe. Then they wonder why I refuse the drugs or toss them. I’ve tossed a $200 bottle of medicine after 5 pills WelChol* Gout symptoms, starts in R. big toe, goes to hip joint after 3 pills, full gout pain with 5 pills whose side effects would have put me in a wheel chair for life, if it did not kill me. I’ve reacted to a drug as soon as it is swallowed, some take 10 mins. Others take a few days.

I don’t see how this program is going to help me, I see how it will hurt though.

Dean hubby Ret SCPO, takes 2 name brands that patents have not run out on. rest generics. Nexium and WelChol.

All I see is a nightmare. ES cannot be trusted to get the RIGHT manufacture, and some of mine have to be from that manufacture even if it is a generic. Different Manufacturer’s different fillers. Like with the NORCO, not only did it make me sick it did NOT WORK. My water pill is the same way. The green/yellow Mylan brand works, but the white capsule or green tablet do not work.

This is couched in such language that it is hard to under stand. This is a Prelim letter, we don’t even know at this time which drugs are going to be on the list. Waste of money to not send out the full thing. It goes into effect today!

These are the option we are going to be given in a “new” SCREW U Pilot program from Tricare.

1 Transfer your medication from a retail pharmacy to save , convenient Tricare Home Delivery and pay less out of pocket! A typical cost for a 90 day retail supply is $51 but only $13 for Home Delivery.

2 Ask your doctor about using a low cost generic that is not among the medications included in the Pilot Generics can still be filled at retail for $5

3 Transfer maintenance medications under the Pilot from retail pharmacy to a military pharmacy. Call your local military pharmacy to see if they have you medication
4 Continue to get you selected maintenance medications at a retail and pay 100% of the cost of the medication starting with your third refill.

If you refill your selected maintenance medication’s at a retail pharmacy after March 14, 2014 you’ll get letters from the Tricare Pharmacy contractor Express Scripts, Inc about switching to Home Delivery. Remember, starting with your third fill you will be responsible for 100% of the cost of the medications if you chose to continue to obtain them at a retail pharmacy.

If you have other health insurance with a prescription benefit, you do not fall under the Pilot. There will also be a process to obtain waivers on a case by case basis, due to personal need or hardship, emergency or other special circumstaces-0 such as living in a nursing home. After participating in the Pilot for 1 year you may opt out.

Military Waste and Fraud Continue In the Middle of the Government Shutdown
HERE IS YOUR PROBLEM :
Washington’s Blog
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/10/wasted-military.html

http://www.reuters.com/investigates/pentagon/#article/part1

Mugging the Military
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Mugging our Troops
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0bama to Force Military Families Away From Tricare ...By Tripling Their Fees. Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare.”

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Pentagon Outlines Increased Tricare Fee Proposal
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/03/05/pentagon-outlines-increased-tricare-fee-proposal.html?comp=7000023317828&rank=1


26 posted on 03/14/2014 7:51:56 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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