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Le'ts brain storm the next generation warship. Ideas?
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Posted on 04/15/2017 6:06:44 AM PDT by meatloaf

Are there alternatives to the Navy's direction?


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It's occurred to me and others that the Navy is pursuing an all eggs in one basket with the continuation of building aircraft carriers and the ships to support and shield them.

When an enemy can launch a fusillade of anti-ship missiles or several air burst tactical nukes is there a better way? In the 60's McNamara, of Ford fame and fortune, was given credit for the DDG class which ended up being top heavy along with the vulnerability of having an aluminum superstructure to compensate and poor sea keeping ability.

Now the Navy wants to build a new frigate with more capability. What are your ideas?

1 posted on 04/15/2017 6:06:44 AM PDT by meatloaf
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Battleships are obsolete.


2 posted on 04/15/2017 6:08:56 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
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A stealthy submersible aircraft carrier sounds pretty cool. /s


3 posted on 04/15/2017 6:13:03 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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Ships which launch rockets. And room for a helicopter.


4 posted on 04/15/2017 6:14:51 AM PDT by Trumpet 1 (US Constitution is my guide.)
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To: meatloaf

Whatever the NYT does not want.


5 posted on 04/15/2017 6:19:10 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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Photon torpedoes


6 posted on 04/15/2017 6:20:32 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: meatloaf

Sails.


7 posted on 04/15/2017 6:22:37 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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There is not one answer. Different missions require different capabilities. Maybe we need to recognize that some missions are not achievable. For standoff land attack, submarine-launched missiles seem to be the ticket.

I’m not sure anything is close to the aircraft carrier for surface dominance. You can do a lot more on the surface than you can underwater.


8 posted on 04/15/2017 6:24:08 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Psephomancers for Hillary!)
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Lasers and railguns. SM-3 and Tomahawks. Front and rear Phlanx. Front and rear 5” or larger selfloader deck guns. Aegeis (?) . Hardened against EMP. Triple redundant elect system. 35+ knots. Steel. Not aluminum.


9 posted on 04/15/2017 6:26:41 AM PDT by BigpapaBo (If it don't kill you it'll make you _________!)
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Star Trek type shields and Clingon type stealth, obviously, I thought everyone knew that!


10 posted on 04/15/2017 6:27:32 AM PDT by richardtavor
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Smaller, conventionally-powered platforms for drones. Drones are the future of naval aviation.


11 posted on 04/15/2017 6:27:34 AM PDT by Drew68
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I’m no engineer, but can we call the first one made the “U.S.S. Chris Kyle?” “Kyle Class” sounds really cool.


12 posted on 04/15/2017 6:29:15 AM PDT by Our man in washington
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Small and modular. Made out of steel and composite materials. Not aluminum. Capable of taking a hit and staying in the fight. And then being swapped out of the line and replaced by another. Frigates. Like Old Ironsides during the days of sail. And lots of them.


13 posted on 04/15/2017 6:32:24 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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The day of massive warships firing 16” shells is past. What the Navy needs is many dozens of medium size ship, like a WWII light cruiser, bristling with ship killer missles.
These cruisers proved their sea-worthiness, and with a plethora of missle launchers replacing very large triple turrets, its fire power and targeting range would be awesome.
Add a fantail with a copter pad (or 2) and there would be a capable fighting ship at a low cost when compared with the price of a single super-carrier.
With the fitting of shorter range smaller rocket launchers the Navy would have a serious Anti-Aircraft ship which could do screening duties protecting the large carriers.


14 posted on 04/15/2017 6:33:23 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf (New York Times: "We print the news as it fits our views.")
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Remove pilots from the cockpit and the need for aircraft carriers goes away.Build dozens of lethal, wickedly fast and agile drones for the cost of each F35. Build vessels to launch the drones, including subs.


15 posted on 04/15/2017 6:34:42 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too... @Onelifetogive)
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My great-etc grandfather was the captain of the USS Constitution. I Watched her sail under her own power in 2012...Quite a stirring sight.


16 posted on 04/15/2017 6:37:33 AM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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And/Or.....as Gen Mattis says, Have a plan to kill everyone you meet, etc, etc.

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17 posted on 04/15/2017 6:42:51 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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I guess, but nothing says ‘brotherly love’ like a shell that weighs more then a Volkswagen coming straight at you!


18 posted on 04/15/2017 6:44:01 AM PDT by Reily
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The left will take power again. From what I have seen of their next generation, it's time to start stockpiling sticks and stones.

19 posted on 04/15/2017 6:44:37 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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Flying submarines. The Japanese had them in the 1960s.


20 posted on 04/15/2017 6:44:59 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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