The FReeper Foxhole Remembers The Battle of Germantown - 1777 - Jan. 14th, 2003

http://www.ilssar.org/germantown.html ^ | Albert Carlson

[Reaganwuzthebest]

I suppose some of them might have deserted, or fell into the water or something.

Very possible, desertion was not uncommon back then, my understanding is Washington finally had someone shot for doing it to set an example to the other men.

[Pharmboy]

...and don't forget The Garden State (Trenton, Princeton, Monmouth and MORE!)

[Reaganwuzthebest]

A little more on New Jersey's role in the Revolutionary War.

[lavaroise]

It was the beginning of the end of the British empire too, because like most actual empires that segregate economicaly through taxes and disarmed selectively the segregated ghettos - thus adding incentive for the creation of ghetto havens and gangs because of insecurity, there is little incentive for the individual to support the empire but very much motivation to become nationalist and fragmented. The genius of the Founding Fathers was in doing what the British could not do, regroup the fragments into an effective force to be reckoned with through an emphasis on the inalienable and sacred statuses and statutes of men - as opposed to whether such and such state or people were trustworty in social engineering fashion, and to discuss the status, statutes and courses of actions in through genuine thinking processes, thesis (British taxes and dispatching of troops), antithesis (refuse unrepresentative export taxes and shootback the British) and synthesis (make a new nation), IMO.

[Pharmboy]

The General would not not recognize the Republic he put his fortune, honour and life on the line for beginning in 1775, and be quite taken aback, no question. However, as an advanced thinker (he is often portrayed as slow-witted but he was decidedly ahead of his time in many ways) he undoubtedly would have been fascinated at certain advances in technology and society.

Thanks for your kind words re my tagline.

[Pharmboy]

Thanks for sharing that link. Great site.

[manna]

Present!

[Antoninus]

The Chew House today...

[firewalk]

Thanks for the ping SamWolf

hope everyone's having a good day (-:

[Pippin]

You have mail! :^)

[afraidfortherepublic]

Thanks for the history lesson. Very timely, considering the splash A & E is making this week with their bio docu-drama of Benedict Arnold. Seeing the picture of the younger Gen. George Washington in your post, Kelsey Grammer does not look quite as out of place in the role as he seemed to at first glance.

[f.Christian]

Colonel Greene was soon afterward murdered at his quarters in Westchester county, N.Y., by a band of Tories, and the sword was presented to his family.

[f.Christian]

Although surprised, the attackers made use of their superior numbers and pushed through to the northern edge of Germantown. Howe attempted to rally his troops, castigating them for fleeing from "a few rebels," when American grapeshot dropped parts of trees on him. This convinced Howe that this was a full fledged attack, and he hastily withdrew to prepare to meet the American forces.

[Bogie]

#24

Yes, a rather sad thing at that, since Gates was probably more of a "public relations" man than a general. And, certainly a Patriot at heart.

Gates talked Burgoye into a deal he couldn't refuse and even made it sound rather respectable. Everyone got something, though no one intended to honor the agreement.

[larryjohnson]

Sam, You answered my request for this and caught me by surprise late in the day. I thought I would have to wait till October. Now I hope to look and see if I can contribute.

[SAMWolf]

I believe Gates and the battle of Camden are mentioned in "The Patriot"

[SAMWolf]

My pleasure, I try and do posts on battles that Freepers request. I don't really have a scheudule, I just add them to the end of my list.

[ruoflaw]

Thank you sir....You made my day! I can't help but wonder what Wayne did to the men under him that panicked.

[larryjohnson]

Germantown Academy: The Beginnings
On December 6, 1759, a group of citizens, concerned about the education of their children, met with Daniel Mackinett, at the Green Tree Inn on Germantown Road. At this meeting The Germantown Union School (now known as Germantown Academy) was founded.
Subscriptions were solicited and land was purchased near Market Square on Bensell's Lane, later to be renamed School House Lane. On August 11, 1761, school opened in a spacious new building. The wish of the founders that these buildings ". . . be continued for that use, and no other, forever . . ." is still honored today.
Germantown Academy had its beginning in the midst of the struggle that surrounded the birth and growth of a new nation. The bell tower and the bell that announces the beginning of each school day have become the symbols of the continuance of the school.
The bell was cast in England and brought over on the tea ship "Polly" in 1774. Because of the unrest in Philadelphia at that time, the "Polly" turned around and, with cargo intact, headed back to England. It was not until 1784 that the bell was returned and placed in the bell tower. The weather vane, with its crown of England and copper ball, attests to its presence during the War for Independence by the scars it bears from musket balls fired by British soldiers who occupied the area and used the school building as a hospital for a brief time during the Battle of Germantown. The troops of General Howe's Third Brigade used the playing fields for the first cricket match played in America.
The second English Master in the school's history, Peletiah Webster, devoted much of his energy to improving the quality of education offered; at the same time he encouraged the board of managers to seek a charter from the state. The charter was granted in 1784 to the "Public School of Germantown," which remains the Academy's corporate title to the present day.

© Copyright 2000 Germantown Academy

[larryjohnson]

The George Washington Connection by Edwin Probert
Archivist Edwin Probert pulls it all together...
The Washington Telescope and the Battle of Germantown
During the Battle of Germantown George Washington used a telescope. This encounter occurred after the British had defeated the colonials at both the Battle of the Brandywine and the Massacre of Paoli. The Americans were anxious for a victory that would end the British occupation of Philadelphia.
The battle strategy, though brilliantly conceived, was a consummate failure. Washington envisioned an early morning surprise attack using flanking maneuvers that would pin the enemy against the palisades of the Schuylkill River. Added to this, the British commissioned officers were billeted in Philadelphia, and their troops were camped in Germantown. Washington thought that he had a foolproof plan.
His scheme was flummoxed: the morning gave rise to fog; his northeastern flank arrived late; and his forward, central force was detailed to overthrow some British soldiers posted outside the main encampment. As Washington was attempting to dislodge this small group, some of his own troops mistook the yelling and gunfire as a sign of an American retreat. They, themselves, started to flee the British officers arrived from Philadelphia to take command their troops. What started as hoped for victory turned into an ignominious defeat.
A Short History of the Washington Telescope
This telescope never saw the service for which it was intended. In point of fact, this telescope is a celestial telescope. It was the property of Anthony Morris, the owner of the Highlands, a large estate in Whitemarsh. He lent Washington this telescope because the brass one, which Congress had given Washington, had been carried off with other baggage, to Reading, after the Battle of the Brandywine. By removing one of the lenses, this telescope was adapted to terrestrial use. Here, we need to note that when Washington had it in his possession, the instrument was already 100 years old
Washington returned this telescope to Anthony Morris, who, after the American Revolution, found himself bankrupt. In his efforts to recoup his finances, he sold his real estate and most of his possessions, including the telescope. Eventually it became the property of Dr. William Leibert of Germantown who was enthusiastic supporter of Germantown Academy.
In the second third of the nineteenth century, Germantown Academy began to offer formal science courses one of which was astronomy. Dr. Leibert presented the telescope to the school to be used in that class. Within a few years, the school bought a modern Bordeaux telescope, and the older instrument became a part of the school's collection of memorabilia, representing the its connection with George Washington.
For much of the twentieth century, it was kept in the vault of the Germantown Savings Bank. When the school moved to Fort Washington, and closed its connection with GSB, the telescope was re-discovered.
Since then, it has been lent to an exhibit mounted by the Antique Telescope Society and to Mount Vernon. The telescope, now over three-hundred years old, recently underwent conservation / preservation and now is on exhibit.
One of the school buildings, Washington-Kershaw Hall, had been a private dwelling where Washington had met his cabinet when the government was temporarily located in Germantown to avoid the Yellow Fever epidemic that swept Philadelphia in 1793.
George Washington Parke Custis A GA Alumnus
When George Washington was living in Germantown, he knew many of its inhabitants particularly Thomas Dungan, the English Master at the Union School of Germantown, as Germantown Academy was then known. Dungan had been an officer in the Continental Army. Washington's adopted son (who was also his step-grandson) George Washington Parke Custis, was a youthful member of the Presidential household. Young Washington was not given to academics. Knowing of Dungan's fine teaching reputation, George and Martha Washington sent the boy to be tutored under Dungan. Sadly, the hoped for results did not occur. Until his early twenties, George Washington Parke Custis, seemed no more than a spoiled person. However, in the fullness of time, he became a playwright who collaborated with Francis Scott Key, and he wrote the first popular biography of his grandfather, the first President of the United States.
The Washington Chestnut Tree
With other government officials, Washington and his family lived in Germantown when they were seeking refuge from the Yellow Fever that was raging in the capitol, Philadelphia. Here in the outskirts of the largest English-speaking city outside of London, life moved at a slower, more relaxed paced. Washington had time to do focus on familial matters such as helping to plant a chestnut tree on the campus.