[NutCrackerBoy]

If the state of CA confiscates your firearm, I am dead-set against that. -NutCrackerBoy

How much more can I underscore this? I think it is wrong. I want it changed. Among other things, the wrongful CA Constitution is clearly having the effect of inducing people such as yourself to grant even more influence to the Supreme Court, which already has way too much.

Where did the state get the power to give itself the power to [confiscate firearms]?

It is not legitimate. The federal government did not give it that power. It arrogated the power unto itself.

[tpaine]

the state [does not have ] the power to give itself the power to [confiscate firearms]
It is not legitimate. It arrogated the power unto itself.

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Yet you claim:
"2. The 2nd amendment does not limit state governments from trampling on RKBA."


Can you agree that 'we the people' can ratify a constitution that says:

'The 2nd amendment limits state governments from trampling on our RKBA?'

I submit we did so, back in 1791.

You must admit that in the territory of CA, before statehood, US citizens had a RKBA's, -- yet you insist, because of a oversight, modern CA can now ban arms..
This is an illogical position.