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Spelling-bee protesters 'thru with through'
Seattle Times ^ | June 3, 2004

Posted on 06/03/2004 1:19:36 AM PDT by sarcasm

WASHINGTON — Protesters delivered a message yesterday to the national spelling bee: Enuf is enuf!

Members of the American Literacy Society picketed the 77th annual spelling bee, which is sponsored every year by Cincinnati-based Scripps Howard.

The protesters' complaints: English spelling is illogical, and the national spelling bee only reinforces the crazy spellings that they say contribute to dyslexia, high illiteracy and harder lives for immigrants.

"We advocate the modernization of English spelling," said Pete Boardman, 58, of Groton, N.Y. The Cornell University bus driver admitted to being a terrible speller.

Protester Elizabeth Kuizenga, 56, is such a good speller that she teaches English as a second language in San Francisco. She said she got involved in the protest after seeing how much time was wasted teaching spelling in her class.

Bee spokesman Mark Kroeger said good spelling comes from knowing the story behind a word — what language it comes from, what it means.

"For these kids who understand the root words, who understand the etymology, it's totally logical," he said.

The protesters contend that the illogical spelling of English words makes dyslexia more difficult to overcome and helps explain studies that suggest one in five Americans are functionally illiterate.

"If these people were able to read and write with a simplified spelling system, they would be able to fill out a job application, stay employed and stay out of prison," said Sanford Silverman, 86. The retired accountant was handing out copies of his book, "Spelling for the 21st Century: The Case for Spelling Reform."

Carrying signs reading "I'm thru with through," "Spelling shuud be lojical," and "Spell different difrent," the protesters drew chuckles from bee contestants.

"I can't believe people are picketing against something this ridiculous," said contestant Steven Maheshwary, 14, of Houston.

By day's end yesterday, 46 of the original 265 spellers remained for today's championship. The participants are competing for a top package of $17,000 in cash and other prizes.

Some of the stumpers yesterday were "phyllotaxy," "triboluminescence," "ziphioid" and "dacquoise."


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1 posted on 06/03/2004 1:19:36 AM PDT by sarcasm
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To: sarcasm
With spell-check and increasing use of keyboards and computers, this issue is moot.
2 posted on 06/03/2004 1:25:01 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Overcoming Restless Leg Syndrome. profile updated last friday)
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To: sarcasm

Based on the evidence on FR it's not just the tough ones like "phyllotaxy," "triboluminescence," "ziphioid" and "dacquoise" that people have trouble with.


3 posted on 06/03/2004 1:26:36 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (06/07/04 - 1000 days since 09/11/01)
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To: sarcasm

This is very series.


4 posted on 06/03/2004 1:28:56 AM PDT by Begin
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To: sarcasm

No thanks.


5 posted on 06/03/2004 1:29:25 AM PDT by MegaSilver (Training a child in red diapers is the cruelest and most unusual form of abuse.)
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To: Straight Vermonter

hehehehe


6 posted on 06/03/2004 1:31:41 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
With spell-check and increasing use of keyboards and computers, this issue is moot.

Actually, it's not. There are still too many words that sound alike but have very distinctly different meanings; wood and would are prime examples. Which word wood you use?

Spell-check can't distinguish proper usage; it only knows whether a word is spelled correctly or not.
7 posted on 06/03/2004 1:33:54 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: sarcasm

Two important things strike me about this article - 1) it is San Francisco, which should say quite a bit about the topic, in general; 2) this is the reward for the NEA's failed program of "creative" spelling that they pushed many years ago in which they ignored incorrect spelling in hopes of encouraging more students to read and write. All they achieved was a group of morons protesting the national spelling bee.


8 posted on 06/03/2004 1:37:19 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: sarcasm

I guarantee you these folks are democrats. They just aren't happy unless they are on the attack against every aspect of our lives. Or am I reading too much into this?


9 posted on 06/03/2004 1:38:07 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: sarcasm
Carrying signs reading "I'm thru with through," "Spelling shuud be lojical," and "Spell different difrent," the protesters drew chuckles from bee contestants.

The genuinely tragic aspect of all this, however: those weren't intentional misspellings, on the parts of said protesters. :)

10 posted on 06/03/2004 1:43:18 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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Somehow I don't think it's the fault of the written English language that people are illiterate, but rather poor education. Japan has had close to a 100% literacy rate for decades now and look at their written language. It's much more dificult than English. If our schools were schools and not pathetic daycare and indoctrination centers then illiteracy wouldn't be a problem.


11 posted on 06/03/2004 1:49:34 AM PDT by elmer fudd
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To: sarcasm

Freepers, notice the tone of this article? The protesters are the story. The spelling bee contestants, who put in far more effort than the idiots with the signs, barely get mentioned.

In other words, come out counter-culture (or anti-Bush) and get all the newsprint you want.


12 posted on 06/03/2004 1:50:14 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: sarcasm

Eyes wantsa my krayons and knowkabody kan deeenIe mee kawz iman edjewkated usa poisin hue paaaz taxez Nd haz riitz!


13 posted on 06/03/2004 1:50:55 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Freedom Stands Because Heroes Serve.)
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The protesters' complaints: English spelling is illogical

Somewhere subterranean, George Bernard Shaw must be cheering. That was one of his many favorite causes.

Of course the spelling is often illogical because the English language keeps evolving, borrowing words from other languages and making it's own rules as it goes. The purist French, for example, can eat their hearts out, English is THE international language, clumsy as it may be.

14 posted on 06/03/2004 2:02:59 AM PDT by xJones
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To: JoeSixPack1

u b whack


15 posted on 06/03/2004 2:07:45 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (George Bush kills terrorists. Bill Clinton pardons them. John Al-Qerry will apologize to them.)
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To: Begin
Spelling bees claim two in Brazil
Sydney Morning Herald, Australia - May 3, 2004
... people who were hiking Sunday in the Serra Do Caraca state park about 600km west of Rio de Janeiro when they were attacked by a swarm of bees, said Sergeant ...

Spelling bees attack hikers
News24, South Africa - May 3, 2004
... a group of nine people who were hiking on Sunday in the Serra Do Caraca state park about 600km west of Rio de Janeiro when they were attacked by a swarm of bees ...
 
This IS very series

16 posted on 06/03/2004 2:14:45 AM PDT by wolficatZ (___><))))*>___)
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17 posted on 06/03/2004 2:16:49 AM PDT by The Raven (<<----Click Screen name to see why I vote the way I do.)
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To: Begin

For realz....and very hugh.


18 posted on 06/03/2004 2:18:44 AM PDT by GOPyouth (De Oppresso Liber! The Tyrant is captured!)
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To: sarcasm

Not to me it isn't.


19 posted on 06/03/2004 2:24:24 AM PDT by Ronin (We are in a war. The enemy is Islam. It's time we stopped pretending otherwise.)
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To: DustyMoment
Actually, it's not. There are still too many words that sound alike but have very distinctly different meanings; wood and would are prime examples. Which word wood you use?
Spell-check can't distinguish proper usage; it only knows whether a word is spelled correctly or not.



And then you click on the wrong choyce and still end up looking like a dunce.
20 posted on 06/03/2004 2:34:30 AM PDT by WKB (3!~ What we need is more "Christianity in politics" and less "Politics in Christianity")
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To: WKB

The choice was deliberate and intentional to make my point.


21 posted on 06/03/2004 2:38:23 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

You people will be spelling Colour as "Color" next

Or even worse Aeroplane as "Airplane"

Bloody colonials ; )


22 posted on 06/03/2004 2:38:37 AM PDT by weegie
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To: DustyMoment

The choice was deliberate and intentional to make my point.




So was mine. What's your problem?
I was agreeing with you.
What's the matter that never happened before
and you don't know how to respond?


23 posted on 06/03/2004 2:41:07 AM PDT by WKB (3!~ What we need is more "Christianity in politics" and less "Politics in Christianity")
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To: sarcasm

Frankily mi deer, I don't giva dammm.


24 posted on 06/03/2004 2:43:32 AM PDT by Waco
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To: sarcasm
"I can't believe people are picketing against something this ridiculous," said contestant Steven Maheshwary, 14, of Houston.

the only mature voice in the crowd...

25 posted on 06/03/2004 2:49:17 AM PDT by wildwood
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Spell checking systems are inadequate since they do not contain all words used in the English language. Moreover, they do not distinguish between a correctly spelled word and a word that is not what you meant ( for example to instead of too or even two). The reality is if you do not know how to spell you do not know the language. Keyboards used to be typewriters and to suggest that those put an end to the need for dictionaries is silly. Calculators were supposed to do away with the need for anyone to learn arithmetic ( your tables as it were). Fact is calculators are not always correct ( the dead battery syndrome) and one still needs to know arithmetic unless you prefer your money to be handled by someone who will steal you blind.


26 posted on 06/03/2004 3:04:26 AM PDT by jnarcus
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To: sarcasm

Dis iz a funy rtikle. iz ets series?


27 posted on 06/03/2004 3:05:23 AM PDT by kb2614 (".....We've done nothing and were all out of ideas!!")
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To: sarcasm
The protesters' complaints: English spelling is illogical, and the national spelling bee only reinforces the crazy spellings that they say contribute to dyslexia, high illiteracy and harder lives for immigrants.

Whadda crock.

28 posted on 06/03/2004 3:09:13 AM PDT by Allegra
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To: sarcasm

The protesters' complaints: English spelling is illogical, and the national spelling bee only reinforces the crazy spellings that they say contribute to dyslexia, high illiteracy and harder lives for immigrants.

"We advocate the modernization of English spelling," said Pete Boardman, 58, of Groton, N.Y. The Cornell University bus driver admitted to being a terrible speller.

__________________________________________________

What would be great is if they were to create a new bureaucracy, the National Spelling Reform Commission, to handle the reform of the English language. The NSRC could employ 230,000 people and have a budget of $2.3 billion. Has Kerry promised this yet? I don't see why not. It could earn him a couple of thousand votes.

As with all bureaucracies, it could perform at best at a mediocre level and quickly outlive any perceived usefulness. But the liberals will cry foul if any member of the GOP even thinks about disbanding it... Ah, how politics sickens me. It's just so predictable.


29 posted on 06/03/2004 3:10:40 AM PDT by Captain Rabbit ("I don't own an SUV" said John Kerry who was then called on it. "Oh, that one's the family's.")
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I wonder if the protesters' signs contained horrible misspellings and had glaring grammatical errors on them such as using apostrophes for plurals? I can just see it now:

UNFARE TO IMMIGRANT'S

30 posted on 06/03/2004 3:13:25 AM PDT by Allegra (I Can Spell....My Typing Just Sucks)
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To: sarcasm

What a bunch of loosers.


31 posted on 06/03/2004 3:13:29 AM PDT by bondjamesbond (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

They are hughly mistaken.


32 posted on 06/03/2004 3:15:01 AM PDT by navygal (God loves all sinners, just not the sin.)
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To: sarcasm

"Phyllotaxy, triboluminescence,ziphioid and dacquoise" always causes me to stumble, too!


33 posted on 06/03/2004 3:18:13 AM PDT by wunderkind54
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Actually, I give "through" about another ten years. In the normal evolutionary process of language, "thru" is taking over from "through". In normal business and social communication, nobody even bothers to correct it anymore. In ten years, "thru" will be an acceptable alternative spelling and in twenty years, it will be ubiquitous.

In thirty years, I will be the only one using "through", and people will look at me like I am a dinosaur. Some snot-nosed college punk will tell me I'm spelling it wrong.


34 posted on 06/03/2004 3:19:45 AM PDT by bondjamesbond (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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I thought Americans already did spell 'through' as 'thru'!
35 posted on 06/03/2004 3:27:21 AM PDT by pau1f0rd
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"harder lives for immigrants"

like the kids of immigrants who keep winning spelling bees every year?

36 posted on 06/03/2004 3:28:57 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (Deus Lo Volt!)
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To: sarcasm

The Onion could have written this.


37 posted on 06/03/2004 3:46:23 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: sarcasm
The protesters' complaints: English spelling is illogical, and the national spelling bee only reinforces the crazy spellings that they say contribute to dyslexia, high illiteracy and harder lives for immigrants.

Well then. Let's get to the heart of the matter. Its those darn letters themselves that are the problem.

I propose that we return to a system of pictures only. No more dyslexia, no more illiteracy and no need to learn annoying languages like English. Even the Neanderthals could understand picture writting!

38 posted on 06/03/2004 4:14:46 AM PDT by kidd
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I demand metric spelling!! How about Euro-spelling? Instead of letters call them deciwords. Instead of paragraphs, kilowords. Books become megawords, a library a gigaword! A period willl be called a milliword.

We can standardize and all speak Espranto! At the UN! And no one will be more clever, more educated, more articulate than anyone else, though the Democrat is always more articulate than the Republican!


39 posted on 06/03/2004 4:28:36 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Uday and Qusay are ead-day)
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To: Straight Vermonter
Based on the evidence on FR....

...it's not just spelling, but punctuation, capitalization, coherence,....

40 posted on 06/03/2004 4:30:08 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Uday and Qusay are ead-day)
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To: Straight Vermonter

hea, somme of us speel finee, we just need ot laearn howe to typye


41 posted on 06/03/2004 4:36:24 AM PDT by Proud Legions
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To: bondjamesbond

Hmmm... What I can't figure out is whether we will have to also change "threw" to "thru", or whether we can change it to "throo" instead (in order to continue to distinguish 'through' from 'threw').


42 posted on 06/03/2004 4:37:11 AM PDT by The Electrician
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I demand metric spelling!!

Great idea! We'll reduce the alphabet to just ten letters. Half the problem solved right there!

I recommend we get rid of vowels first.....

43 posted on 06/03/2004 4:43:39 AM PDT by jigsaw (God Bless Our Troops.)
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To: The Electrician

We will change "threw" to "throwed".


44 posted on 06/03/2004 4:45:18 AM PDT by Fudd
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To: LibWhacker

Well, it wuz printed in the Seattle nuzpaper.


45 posted on 06/03/2004 4:48:27 AM PDT by dc27
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Eye thingk speleng shud bee modurneyezed tu. Itz askeng tu much for pepul tu lurn tu spel kurektle.


46 posted on 06/03/2004 4:55:55 AM PDT by IronJack
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"Get a life" bump.


47 posted on 06/03/2004 4:59:13 AM PDT by G L Tirebiter
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To: Straight Vermonter
LOL

The protestes are another example of people with too much time.

48 posted on 06/03/2004 5:03:50 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: sarcasm; governsleastgovernsbest; bentfeather; gaspar; NativeNewYorker; drjimmy; Atticus; ...
"We advocate the modernization of English spelling," said Pete Boardman...Cornell University bus driver

Ithaca is the City of Evil.


49 posted on 06/03/2004 5:04:01 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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Why do the protester's even bother. The computer is eliminating even their mispellings. LOL, ROFLMAO, URADWEEB, etc...

Seriesly....


50 posted on 06/03/2004 5:08:12 AM PDT by Hatteras
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