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Seniors in Michigan offered bus trips to Canada to get prescription drugs
Canadian Press ^ | November 06, 2004 | Canadian Press

Posted on 11/06/2004 2:16:36 PM PST by Former Military Chick

WARREN, Mich. -- The city's 30,000 residents 65 or older have a new option when it comes to paying for their prescription drugs.

On Friday, Warren joined other municipalities across the state in offering free bus trips to Canada so senior citizens can buy cheaper prescription medicines.

Officials for Michigan's third-largest city said they expect residents will be able to save 40 to 70 per cent.

"Nobody should have to choose between whether to pay for food or for drugs," Mayor Mark Steenbergh told the Macomb Daily newspaper of Mount Clemens, Mich.. "Prescription medications are a necessity, not a luxury."

The city patterned the program on one started three years ago in Westland. Mich., that has been duplicated in Dearborn Heights, Mich..

Warren's move was another sign that prescription drug costs are forcing local governments to expand their role beyond the traditional ones of public safety and road maintenance, said Tom Oren, a spokesman for AARP Michigan.

"Local government is certainly getting involved," Oren told the Detroit Free Press. "They perceive it as another service to the community."

Warren will hold informational meetings this month before taking its first 42 senior citizens to Canada. Those who make the trip will get the option of ordering future drugs from a Windsor pharmacy by mail, making room for a different batch of seniors to make the trip three months later.

Although the trips will be free, the city will accept donations and look for sponsors to underwrite the cost because it was not included in the city's budget, said Henry Bowman, Warren parks and recreation director.

Seniors can buy drugs only for themselves, not for a spouse or relatives, and they can't buy more than a 90-day supply. They will have to submit their prescriptions to the city about a week before the trip so the medication will be ready when they arrive, Bowman said.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: drugs
Yep, lets keep the Canadian economy going@
1 posted on 11/06/2004 2:16:38 PM PST by Former Military Chick
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To: Former Military Chick
President Bush made a good argument about the drugs in Canada, may not be safe, since the terrorists will stop at nothing. Including lacing the drugs with poisons.

Apparently, many of the drugs in Canada are made in the Middle East.

2 posted on 11/06/2004 2:20:59 PM PST by the Deejay (ACLU = America's Clueless LUNATICS United.)
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To: Former Military Chick

While you greedy geezers are at it, just stay up in Canada!


3 posted on 11/06/2004 2:21:22 PM PST by zzen01
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To: Former Military Chick
I have no problem with getting the drugs as cheap as possible. It is called competition, efficiency of the markets, CAPITALISM! If BUSH, the GOP or anyone doesn't like it - GOOD LUCK - price controls don't work - we tried them, remember?

Eventually, the US drug cos will have to charge them more or us less

4 posted on 11/06/2004 2:23:57 PM PST by Henchman (Now let Kerry benefit the country. What is his PLAN?)
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To: Former Military Chick
"Yep, lets keep the Canadian economy going."

Does this mean you are for or against people going to Canada to have their prescriptions filled?

Personally, I feel that all's fair in love, war, and shopping. If you can buy your prescriptions at a better price (even factoring in all the bus trip nonsense) in Canada, then get on the bus!
5 posted on 11/06/2004 2:24:26 PM PST by RustysGirl
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To: zzen01

Here we go again - drugs or dog food - it's all Bush's fault.
All major drug companies offer free or reduced drugs to seniors - all they have to do is call and enroll, I did it for my Dad and it is very easy.


6 posted on 11/06/2004 2:26:16 PM PST by finallyatexan
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To: Former Military Chick

I think we can improve this program by making the bus trips ONE WAY!


7 posted on 11/06/2004 2:27:58 PM PST by Boiler Plate
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To: Boiler Plate

Got the sillies today?

This is an open site, more or less. And somebody will see your remark and post it all over the web: See how evil and nasty Republicans are. They want to banish your Grandmother and Grandfather to Canada because they need expensive drugs.

Unless of course your really mean it.


8 posted on 11/06/2004 2:49:38 PM PST by RustysGirl
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To: Former Military Chick

Now's that what I call some North American Free Trade.


9 posted on 11/06/2004 2:51:05 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: finallyatexan
Really? Who do you call for this?

My hubby's a Type2 Diabetic.

He takes about 6 different tablet varieties.

Even though hubby's almost 67, drugs are quite pricey at discounts for seniors.

10 posted on 11/06/2004 2:52:24 PM PST by the Deejay (ACLU = America's Clueless LUNATICS United.)
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To: Boiler Plate
Speaking of "bus trips," what the liberal media doesn't tell you is that the buses run both ways. Yes, both ways.

Anyone who tells you that the Canadian system is better does not understand how it works.

Busloads of Canadians cross the border to see doctors in the US for specialties and procedures they can't get in Canada. Each province has its own healthcare budget, meaning that wealthy provinces like Ontario have bigger budgets than poorer provinces, such as those in the Maritimes. And when the money is gone, hospitals can't take care of patients they already have, or accept new ones. Doctors get paid by the patient, so their offices become like assembly lines.

Hospitals in New Brunswick (a poor Maritime province that happens to have a Conservative premier), for example, are closing because of budget cuts. People bemoan the fact that they cannot afford private US insurance so they can cross the border to see US doctors, and unlike the UK, Canadians aren't allowed to have private doctors. It is illegal. Rich Canadians come HERE for their medical care. Celine Dion came here for her fertility treatments. Former Quebec premier Bourassa came here for his cancer treatment.

Anyone over 65 is put at the bottom of the list for care. When Bubba got his bypass, the only reason he waited 3 days was because they wanted to monitor something before going ahead, but they could have if everything had been fine. In Canada, he'd have waited perhaps WEEKS for this operation.

I repeat -- any American who tells you how wonderful the Canadian system is has never experienced all it has to "offer."
11 posted on 11/06/2004 3:01:04 PM PST by kellynch (Whining about income inequality is a cop-out. -- Walter E. Williams)
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To: the Deejay
Really? Who do you call for this?

Come to Arizona. We have bus tours too, but we get our meds even cheaper, from Mexico.

12 posted on 11/06/2004 3:04:30 PM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: the Deejay

Pfzir offers discounted or free drugs - go to their website
Glaxo Smith Kline has an Orange Card
Lilly has an Answer Card
They offer discounts for their drugs so you may have to go to all to get what you need.
They all have websites.
If you need more help just private reply me.


13 posted on 11/06/2004 3:06:20 PM PST by finallyatexan
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To: finallyatexan
Thank you very much!
14 posted on 11/06/2004 3:08:07 PM PST by the Deejay (ACLU = America's Clueless LUNATICS United.)
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To: Henchman
US manufactured drugs are cheaper because:

1.The Canadian government subsidizes them, and

2.The US manufacturers recognize that Canada is a peripheral market one tenth the size of the US.

If enough US citizens go to Canada for drugs, the government there will run out of money and the US companies will abandon a peripheral market.

15 posted on 11/06/2004 3:17:24 PM PST by Comus ('W', stands for winner.)
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To: zzen01

***While you greedy geezers are at it, just stay up in Canada!***

Whatsa matter? Did your Grandma cut off your allowance again?

I've seen seniors hand over as much as $2,000 a month for prescriptions. And some of them through no fault of their own, don't have much more than $24,000 a year. Please don't bother telling me that ALL these people spent every penny on themselves and now want YOU to pay for their prescriptions. People that age worked for $25 a week. How did you expect them to save enough to have $50,000 a year now?


16 posted on 11/06/2004 3:53:30 PM PST by kitkat (Forgive me God, for I have gloated. (and I'm gonna keep on doing it.))
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To: RustysGirl
Got the sillies today?

This is an open site, more or less. And somebody will see your remark and post it all over the web: See how evil and nasty Republicans are. They want to banish your Grandmother and Grandfather to Canada because they need expensive drugs.

Unless of course your really mean it.

Welcome to Free Republic, I see that you are a Newb. This is a free site in that anyone can lurk and lots of them are liberals aka DUer's.

Now having said that I must ask if you are implying that Canada isn't the greatest place on earth to live now that the EEEEVIL Empire has cast a dark pall over all that is good for the next 4 years. Don't you want your grandparents to live in Nirvana or do you think they should suck off of the Canadian taxpayer.

17 posted on 11/06/2004 7:40:41 PM PST by Boiler Plate
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To: kellynch
I repeat -- any American who tells you how wonderful the Canadian system is has never experienced all it has to "offer."

You got that right. I have traveled to every continent except Antarctica and any fool that thinks that anyplace has a better, more accessible, Health Care System, that reaches more than a few million people, is either lying or ignorant.
18 posted on 11/06/2004 7:46:10 PM PST by Boiler Plate
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To: Henchman

I understand your frustration, but I do have some concerns.

The US does a lot of testing before a drug becomes legal and that you and I would be allowed to take.

While I feel certain that no American would get a raw deal, if they had we would have heard about it. But, in the end we are tossing our good money to the north country who in all honesty isn't quite on the same game page as the US is.

But, Bush has 4 years to make inroads on this subject.


19 posted on 11/06/2004 9:39:35 PM PST by Former Military Chick
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To: Boiler Plate
Okay. Let's review. You said, in response to the article about senior citizen bus trips to Canada to buy low-cost prescriptions: "I think we can improve this program by making the bus trips ONE WAY!"

You don't see how some people might think that's cruelly sarcastic?! You don't see how political foes might use that?How does it advance the discussion in any way?

My only other comment in this thread is that "all's fair in love, war, and shopping." I made no comments or comparisons about medical care in Canada compared to the US.

I actually have no idea how Canada's healthcare system works, so I can't offer an opinion about it. The only thing I know from recent news reports is that certain drugs are cheaper in Canada and that Canada might be able to send the US some flu vaccine.

Right -- and I'm a stranger in town. A possible spy. But I'm not the one making the off-the-wall remarks about one-way bus trips, am I.
20 posted on 11/07/2004 2:16:27 AM PST by RustysGirl
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To: RustysGirl

Are you of the mind that these bus trips are a good idea?


21 posted on 11/07/2004 12:55:20 PM PST by Boiler Plate
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To: Boiler Plate

As I said: all's fair in love, war, and shopping.


22 posted on 11/07/2004 5:44:53 PM PST by RustysGirl
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To: RustysGirl
As I said: all's fair in love, war, and shopping.

Spoken like a true girl. you wouldn't be blonde as well?

Unfortunately somebody ACTUALLY has to pay for these low cost drugs and that would be the Canadian taxpayer. So you think it is OK for your grandparents to fleece the Canadians so you don't have to take care of them?

23 posted on 11/07/2004 5:53:50 PM PST by Boiler Plate
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To: Boiler Plate
Until the Canadian government legally stops non-Canadians from buying the drugs in Canada, I have no problem. And I also suspect that the Canadian government will probably put a stop to this pretty soon. Until then, those who want to should get it while they can.

PS: Sadly, I'm more gray haired than anything these days.
24 posted on 11/07/2004 6:08:45 PM PST by RustysGirl
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To: RustysGirl
Well be on your then. I'm sure the Canucks will be delighted to know that the only reason you are visiting them is to take advantage of them. I feel that it is greedy and disingenuous much the same as I feel it wrong for Mexicans to cross the border to take advantage of the American taxpayer. Well so much for "Do unto others".
25 posted on 11/07/2004 6:22:47 PM PST by Boiler Plate
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To: RustysGirl

Well, I DO know how the Canadian health care system works because my parents live there. They're US citizens, and they made sure to live as close as possible to the US border so they can go across when they need a doctor. Their Canadian friends can't afford private US insurance (my parents are taken care of because of the insurance from my father's former employer), and they all wish they could.


26 posted on 11/08/2004 10:14:47 AM PST by kellynch (Whining about income inequality is a cop-out. -- Walter E. Williams)
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To: RustysGirl

He probably does. An example of the "Logan's Run" type Conservative.


27 posted on 11/08/2004 10:20:54 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: kellynch

Bingo-- hubby lived there, so I have a first hand account. I try to get this point across to people I know, who just don't get it, but alas, they just don't WANT to get it. They want "free" health care, just like Canada, dontcha know?????


28 posted on 11/08/2004 10:24:10 AM PST by lilmsdangrus
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To: lilmsdangrus

With the confiscatory taxes they pay, it certainly ISN'T free!


29 posted on 11/09/2004 6:02:50 PM PST by kellynch (Whining about income inequality is a cop-out. -- Walter E. Williams)
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To: kellynch

absolutely, but ya can't confuse 'em with the facts, now.


30 posted on 11/09/2004 6:24:50 PM PST by lilmsdangrus
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