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China made first export of major oil-drilling equipment to US
People's Daily Online ^ | December 10, 2004

Posted on 12/11/2004 11:51:12 AM PST by Willie Green

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To: HoustonCurmudgeon; staytrue
"It means we are in 2nd place in oil drilling knowledge and without effort, will likely remain there."

"Not in the drilling industry are you."

LOL!

Obviously!

41 posted on 12/12/2004 11:46:37 AM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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To: Willie Green

BPMF is a wholly own subsidiary of the CNPC.'

China Petroleum International’s focus is to sell to other countries and it has gained acceptance in the oil and gas industry.

Li said the technology the company has imported from other countries has help its sales.

"Since 1998, we have been continually importing technology. We have been buying technology from the world’s leading oil manufacturers. A lot of it has been from the United States," he said. "We have found that the most-accepted products into the North America market are those which are made by that kind of technology."

Li said China Petroleum’s commitment to new technology is part of the Chinese government’s pledge to a more capitalistic business climate.

"We are trying," he said. "We call it a ‘market’ economy."

The China National Petroleum Corp. was formed when the Chinese government reorganized its existing petroleum agency in 1992.

"This is very normal in China," he said.

Li said politics plays no part in China Petroleum’s operations.

"There is nothing political here," he said. "We have no political target or intention whatsoever. The focus in China right now is leaning this way — it’s business. We are government-owned, but the government doesn’t get involved. We are a true corporation."



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So the US companies are competing with a state owned company. Profits from the US companies go to the company and its shareholders, profits from CNPC go to the Chinese government. When government controls production-- what's that called? I forget.

And does free trade mean that US companies have to "compete" with a state owned company? Is that the definition of free trade? I forget.

"We are a true corporation". Uh huh.


42 posted on 12/12/2004 12:36:24 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: TexasCowboy

That's all it takes! One man who knows exactly what the article is about.

Much thanks Tex for explaing it to us ignorant ones.


43 posted on 12/12/2004 1:05:22 PM PST by B4Ranch (((The lack of alcohol in my coffee forces me to see reality!)))
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To: hedgetrimmer
Since 1998, we have been continually importing technology

A Chinese programmer who works for the state-run China National Petroleum Corp. has been arrested for allegedly trying to steal software used to map underground oil deposits from a Silicon Valley company by the federal authorities.

SAN FRANCISCO: Chinese national, Shan Yan Ming was arrested Tuesday by the FBI after workers at privately held 3DGeo company, discovered him trying to download an expensive, proprietary software program last week. A California-based company The Mountain View, sells software used in seismic imaging of oil fields.

http://www.ciol.com/content/news/repts/102092103.asp
44 posted on 12/12/2004 1:13:02 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: nanak

Also, why do you think that the U.S. Army is having trouble finding steel producers here in the States that can provie the armor for the vehicles in Iraq?


45 posted on 12/12/2004 1:40:33 PM PST by raybbr
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To: dennisw
So low US trade deficits are against your economic philosophy. What kind of kool aid are you drinking?

Deficits, near balances, and surpluses are neither good nor bad, they're neutral. Each type has its positives and drawbacks. I myself, would prefer to run a deficit so long as my leverage continued to net me larger returns above my debt servicing and as long as I maintained equity.

46 posted on 12/12/2004 2:26:17 PM PST by LowCountryJoe (Many things in moderation, some with conservation, few in immoderation, all because of liberation!)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon; TexasCowboy
Not in the drilling industry are you.

True, I am not. I just read what I read in the article which says,"David Russell, president of the US company, said that after conducting survey and analysis the BPMF's top drive has proved technologically advanced, qualitatively reliable and the best among all the companies."

I conclude that this is not a good thing for China to be best at something the US used to be best at.

47 posted on 12/12/2004 10:43:05 PM PST by staytrue
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To: staytrue
Sorry, I didn't mean to come across as a smart-ass.

The technology for top drives came from the US.
We were manufacturing small "top drives" many years ago as power swivels.
The purpose of the top drives today is to be able to drill down 94' stands of drill pipe instead of 31' joints, thereby making the drilling process faster because of a lack of connections of drill pipe.
All drilling contractors would like to be able to sell the fact that they can drill faster than their competitors.
Oil companies want faster hole because time is money.

One of the drawbacks of top drives has always been maintenance. They require a lot of expertise to keep them operating efficiently.
It's not that the US can't improve the top drives in the same way that the Chinese possibly have. It's a matter of economics. The Chinese can do it cheaper.

Nevertheless, top drives are a very minor part of the drilling operation, and, no matter who provides them, they will have little impact on the overall operation.

48 posted on 12/12/2004 11:25:49 PM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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