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Teens Copycat Violent Video Games
Pittsburgh Herald Tribune ^ | 12/29/04 | Liz Zemba

Posted on 12/30/2004 2:05:06 PM PST by wrathofgod

Five juveniles who stand accused of embarking on a spray-painting spree in Greensburg told city police they were inspired by a popular -- but violent -- video game. The five boys face criminal charges for allegedly "tagging" 16 buildings and objects in the city with the initials GKU and GUK. The crudely painted letters began appearing on city structures Dec. 7, including on a Jewish temple and at the base of a statue outside Westmoreland Museum of American Art.

Capt. George Seranko said the boys range in age from 12 to 14 and were identified as suspects by a confidential informant. When interviewed by detectives, Seranko said, the boys admitted to the spray-paintings.

"They more or less cooperated," Seranko said. "They said they got the idea from 'Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas,' a video game."

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: videogames
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Any libertarian who thinks he is a conservative who doesn't have a problem with companies marketing and selling these adult-rated games to kids needs to talk to some of the families whose loved ones have been gunned down by these copycats.
1 posted on 12/30/2004 2:05:06 PM PST by wrathofgod
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To: wrathofgod

Did I miss something in this article? Who was "gunned down by these copycats"?


2 posted on 12/30/2004 2:07:57 PM PST by Myrnick (FREE LEONARD PELTIER . . . TO OUR FIRST TEN CALLERS!)
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To: wrathofgod

12-14? From what I gather, at one level you get to have sex with a prostitute. Great parenting skills.


3 posted on 12/30/2004 2:10:27 PM PST by ShadowDancer
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To: wrathofgod

Oh please. There are thousands, if not millions of kids who've played the game without going out and committing crimes. You want to blame someone, blame the parents for not teaching their kids right from wrong. BTW, this topic came up a few months ago. Judging from the reactions of the posters on that thread, 95% of FReepers wouldn't be "real conservatives" under your criteria.


4 posted on 12/30/2004 2:13:12 PM PST by Ex-Dem (AFL-CIO - Where organized labor becomes organized crime.)
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To: wrathofgod
Actually I qualify for you point (libertarian in conservative clothing). From what I read, they are guilty of tagging (used to be called graffiti). The first level of responsibility is with the kids. Second level is the parents. Third level might be with the retail vendor of the spray paint, many states don't allow sales to minors, which is actually a 2nd crime by the kids.
Bottom line, give the precious little kids 160 hours of community service cleaning up graffiti. If they get caught again, make it 320 hours.
5 posted on 12/30/2004 2:14:54 PM PST by ProudVet77 (2004 is worn out, time to start 2005)
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To: wrathofgod

Yes, nobody ever thought to spraypaint a building before grand theft auto came out.

Give me a break. Did you register just to post this gem???


6 posted on 12/30/2004 2:16:29 PM PST by flashbunny (Every thought that enters my head requires its own vanity thread.)
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To: wrathofgod

But I thought guns killed people?


7 posted on 12/30/2004 2:17:43 PM PST by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: flashbunny

Yep. Check his history.

WE'RE DOOMED! lol


8 posted on 12/30/2004 2:18:00 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (" It is not true that life is one damn thing after another-it's one damn thing over and over." ESV)
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To: wrathofgod

these games are labeled for age appropriateness

if parents wont be parents, then we have a deeper problem then a games content.

do you really want the state to manage your family?


9 posted on 12/30/2004 2:19:39 PM PST by atari
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To: wrathofgod

Horse hockey. Welcome to FR.


10 posted on 12/30/2004 2:21:15 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Pray for the millions of lives disrupted by tsunami.)
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To: wrathofgod

If you think these are the "inventors" of vandalizing buildings with spray paint, you need to crawl back in your hole, troll.

If video games do anything it is encouragement of improvement of the human computer interface, any behavioral problems stemming from use of such technology lies solely on the parent/child relationship.


11 posted on 12/30/2004 2:22:08 PM PST by American_Centurion (I am the martyrs' bane.)
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To: wrathofgod

I got a problem with parents who don't teach their children better than to call themselves wrathofgod.


12 posted on 12/30/2004 2:33:29 PM PST by OSHA (The only thing better than ZOTTING trolls is WHINER whompin!)
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> Teens Copycat Violent Video Games

This report sounds nuts,
but the copycat issue
is interesting

and has been studied
at great length which the mainstream
media ignores.

The most buttoned-down
general survey I've seen
is the book below:

"According to Coleman, the media's attitude is "death sells... if it bleeds, it leads." The author, who has written and lectured extensively on the impact of media, mounts a convincing case against newspapers, TV and books that sensationalize murders and suicides, thus encouraging others to imitate destructive crimes. He traces the problem's roots to Goethe's The Sorrows of Young Werther (1774), which spotlighted a fellow who shot himself over a failed romance and inspired many young men to do the same. The novel encouraged widespread use of the term "the Werther Effect" when referring to copycat catastrophes. Coleman addresses Marilyn Monroe's 1962 death, pointing out that thanks to extensive coverage of the star's passing, "the suicide rate in the United States increased briefly by 12%." Other subjects include the 2002 Washington-area snipers John Muhammad and John Lee Malvo, whose actions spawned numerous sniper killings; suicide clusters among fourth-century Greeks; cult leaders Charles Manson and David Koresh, who attained gruesome glamour through melodramatic press perusal; Jack the Ripper—who created copycat killers from the late 1800s into the 20th century—and today's suicide bombers. Although readers may feel there's little they can do to muzzle media destructiveness, Coleman presents his advice to with enough punch to intrigue the public and possibly exert a minor influence on the press."

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13 posted on 12/30/2004 2:34:17 PM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: wrathofgod; MeekOneGOP

You may be on to something. I remember when I was younger I played frogger for two hours one day. On the way home I ran over a frog!


14 posted on 12/30/2004 2:34:53 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Pray for the millions of lives disrupted by tsunami.)
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To: wrathofgod

It sounds like a bunch of parental failures and inadequate discipline to me. A video game company (rockstar) and their game are not to blame for juvenile delinquents who don't have a sense of right and wrong. Try laying the blame, or accepting the blame, where it belongs for once. We are all responsible for our actions, and parents who can't control their children perhaps shouldn't have any.


15 posted on 12/30/2004 2:38:21 PM PST by infidel29 (America is GREAT because she is GOOD, the moment she ceases to be GOOD, she ceases to be GREAT - B.F)
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To: BrooklynGOP
But I thought guns killed people?

Nope.....It's da bullets. ;-)

16 posted on 12/30/2004 2:39:30 PM PST by HP8753 (John Kerry is the King of Spitzpinklers & John Edwards is his court jester.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

Ah, a one post wonder.

And an idiotic post at that!


17 posted on 12/30/2004 2:39:54 PM PST by flashbunny (Every thought that enters my head requires its own vanity thread.)
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To: flashbunny

My 11 year old son wanted this game, after hearing about it in school. I looked into it, found it inappropriate, told him so, and told him NO. No means NO in my house. I haven't heard about it since.


18 posted on 12/30/2004 2:45:50 PM PST by Bushforlife (I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: wrathofgod

Okay, so what do GKU and GUK mean?


19 posted on 12/30/2004 3:02:46 PM PST by Tax-chick (To turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just.)
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To: wrathofgod
Capt. George Seranko said the boys range in age from 12 to 14

Let me check my copy of Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.

It is rated M. 17+. Equivalent to an R rated Movie.
Reasons for M - Blood and Gore, Intense Violence, Strong Language, Strong Sexual Content, and Use of Drugs.

doesn't have a problem with companies marketing and selling these adult-rated games to kids needs to talk to some of the families
It says 17 plus. Where is it marketed to kids?

talk to some of the families whose loved ones have been gunned down by these copycats.
Who has been gunned down because of San Andreas? Answer that please? In fact I can. Video Games don't kill people any more than guns do. PEOPLE do.

I didn't start shooting people because of Wolfenstein. I didn't rip people's hearts out because of Mortal Kombat. I didn't sleep with hookers because of Leisure Suit Larry. These are fiction.

20 posted on 12/30/2004 3:10:19 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("BZZZZZT You are fined one credit for violation of the Verbal Morality Statute")
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