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Christian rock band Pawn - sues their school
www.foxtoledo.com

Posted on 02/18/2005 5:48:05 AM PST by shoffma1999

The local Christian rock band PAWN is taking it's fight about the separation of Church and State to court. Just a few months ago PAWN was told they were not allowed to play at Rossford High School, and now they're fighting the decision with a lawsuit. However, to prove this lawsuit is not about money, members of PAWN are suing the Rossford school district for only $1.

The band's lawyer Thomas Condit says they didn't want to take the problem to the court or sue their school, but they had no choice.

He says after promoting the concert, their anti-drinking, anti-drug performance at Rossford was cancelled with little notice simply because they have a Christian viewpoint, which is a clear violation of their first amendment rights.

“Although they've written many of their own songs, many of them with Christian lyrics, they were not going to perform those at this concert so the cancellation of pawn was perplexing then and it's perplexing now,” says Condit.

So what does the band hope to gain from this lawsuit?? They say they hope to get the message across that regardless of their views, they have the same rights as anyone else.

No word yet on a court date and right now the Rossford School District has yet to release any comment or official statement on the lawsuit.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: churchandstate; education

1 posted on 02/18/2005 5:48:05 AM PST by shoffma1999
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To: shoffma1999

Should have named their band "Satan's Children" then they would have played.


2 posted on 02/18/2005 5:51:28 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Semper Paratus

Or they could have said they were going to do a demonstration of fisting. They probably could have gotten paid by the NEA.


3 posted on 02/18/2005 5:52:55 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (At first it was "Relief", then "Welfare", now it's "Entitlements". What will they call it next?)
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To: Semper Paratus

Yeah, or Gay Pawn. They would have been sent school to school to play. It is pathetic how twisted the first amendment has become in this country.


4 posted on 02/18/2005 5:53:31 AM PST by shoffma1999
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To: shoffma1999
Here's the link in case you want to follow the case
5 posted on 02/18/2005 5:54:12 AM PST by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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To: shoffma1999

School board settles for $1 case closed. Or can the plaintiff refuse settlement and demand a court trial?


6 posted on 02/18/2005 5:54:14 AM PST by Rebelbase (Who is General Chat?)
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To: Rebelbase

The school's problem is that this qualifies as a civil rights lawsuit. If the plaintiffs substantially prevail, the school is stuck for their costs and attorney fees.


7 posted on 02/18/2005 5:59:49 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Rebelbase

I believe they can refuse settlement in that they are probably going to request lawyers fees be covered as well. I am not sure how much their lawyer is going to charge, but it could be somewhat expensive. The schools decision was really pathetic. I live in the school district that made the decision (Rossford), and there weren't even any comlaints about the Band's scheduled performance from what I gathered. I do not see why schools can't just put a disclaimer before they allow religious type speech at commencement ceremony or something similar. All they would have to do is say - the views of the following speaker do not reflect the views of the school and are not intended as an endorsement of said views.


8 posted on 02/18/2005 6:00:02 AM PST by shoffma1999
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To: shoffma1999
It is a shame that these kids are being taught the "New Socialism" and are learning it well.

They have learned that it is now absolutely necessary to hire a LAWYER to defend yourself in front of a (master/lawyer) judge to simply try to restore basic rights that were stolen by other LAWYERS who wrote the illegal laws that were passed by more lawyers posing as legislators.

A hell of a racket, isn't it?

The best question here is "WHY must they do this?"
9 posted on 02/18/2005 6:09:35 AM PST by CLS
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To: CLS
Just exactly which illegal law do you believe the school board was following?
10 posted on 02/18/2005 6:17:04 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: CLS
I second that. Somewhere along the line our society was captured by bad Lawyers. It would be interesting to find out when and how. I do have respect for many attorneys, but somewhere along the line the profession got side tracked. I am currently in law school, and am completely second guessing my decision. I am currently trying to start a business - restaurant, or ice cream franchise (Cold Stone). The Attorney profession has gone from being one that was very honorable (Shakespeare's famous quote about killing all the lawyers was actually a compliment in that the characters were speaking of how to destroy society - and they suggested killing all the lawyers because they were viewed as the protectors of law, justice, and freedom). Sadly today Attorneys have become defenders of injustice and greed too many times. The modern attorney seeks to capture any system that is open and then make it so incredibly difficult that the average person cannot manage without a lawyer. Attorneys today have become almost a plague to a once great society.
11 posted on 02/18/2005 6:18:55 AM PST by shoffma1999
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To: Mr. Lucky

Yes I know that according to lawyers, if it is a law, it cannot be illegal.

kind of a stupid idea if you really think of that statement - but that is how they think.

"illegal law" an oxymoron - emphasizing MORON


12 posted on 02/18/2005 6:23:51 AM PST by CLS
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To: CLS
Alright, let me try again.

Which law of any sort do you think the school administration was following?

13 posted on 02/18/2005 6:27:22 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: shoffma1999

Perhaps if they got Ward Churchill to sing backup they would have an easier time.


14 posted on 02/18/2005 6:37:50 AM PST by JZelle
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To: shoffma1999

I'll say it again -- our country is becoming more Orwellian every day. Instead of "Four legs good; two legs bad" we have:

Satanism good; Christianity bad
Islam good; Christianity bad
Homosexuality good; morality bad
Promiscuity good; abstinence bad

I'm sure there is more, but I can't think. My head is spinning!


15 posted on 02/18/2005 7:12:24 AM PST by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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