Great freakin' band, if you've never checked 'em out, plus Ronnie's a friend of a friend so I plus 'em whenever possible.
Posted on 05/03/2005 3:31:13 PM PDT by Paul_Denton
In the never-ending battle to destroy our constitution, more “big lie” propaganda is being dumped on our elected officials. The rhetoric given forth by the Violence Policy Center (VPC) so easily deceived the legislators of California resulting in the banning of fifty caliber rifles because they are powerful and their bullets punch holes when they strike. Even single shot .50 cal rifles were banned. It’s hard to believe we live in such a dark time that someone has actually banned a single shot rifle. But as you will see, this is the cleverest of all gun bans, and the end goal is civilian disarmament, the confiscation of your tools of liberty, your rifles.
What lies before us is the continuation of the misinformation campaign, trying to coax yet another state to infringe upon the U.S. Constitution as California did. The anti- freedom/anti-gun movement has discovered how transparent they appear when they propose sweeping gun bans and now are successful by biting off a little at a time. Ever so small, many politicians are trading off your rights without you recognizing their violations.
First we had the “Saturday Night Specials” which was all affordable handguns, then “sniper rifles” which were any scoped deer rifle. Those were obvious, too big a scam to go unnoticed, but with the creation and demonization of the term “assault weapon”, the Clinton’s Crime bill produced a 10-year setback on your freedoms and safe gun design. Now comes another scam. This time they are shocked to discover that rifles are “accurate and powerful”.
This is the same bull the officials in the 1950’s fell for when they banned the self-unfolding knife. First the knife was demonized by giving it an evil name, “switchblade”, then we (the trusting public) were told that the problem of gang violence was solved with its banning. How ridiculous. It’s surprising they didn’t ban the leather jacket. In reality, gang violence was and is a serious social problem, but it was not related to manually unfolding versus self-unfolding knives. The elected officials voting to ban an object like a knife proved themselves unwilling or uncaring to understand the problem, and thus, incapable of any real solutions.
A handful of people that makes up the VPC are solely responsible for the big lie on .50’s, claiming fantastic destruction capabilities. They manipulate fear by claiming terrorists will use these rifles on targets of our infrastructure. “They will shut down our airports in flames” they claim. VPC’s Tom Diaz refers to them as “super guns” lying to his dupable group of politicians, concealing the facts that there are many rifle cartridges that are comparable in performance (those will be added to the list in phase two). He is boldly telling these officials and all who will listen that the risk of terrorist attacks on these targets will be solved with the banning of powerful rifles, in this case, the .50 caliber rifle. In reality, terrorism is complex and will be defeated with improved intelligence. In this instance, the officials voting to ban an inanimate object like a rifle proves them ignorant of the problem of terrorism and is wasting time and resources.
You must understand the brilliance of this dangerous back door deception. Your politicians are being told that the fifty is a highly destructive cartridge that can destroy airplanes, fuel transport trucks and depot storages of fuel. They show videos like the one on 60 Minutes showing a ½ inch plate of steel being pierced by a .50 cal round while stopping a .308 caliber. This is all to confuse the people, those with little exposure to firearms; their impression concludes that the .50 punches holes in sensitive targets where other rifles cannot. Had they shot actual aluminum that is used on airplane construction, or aluminum or steel used in actual transport or tank construction, both the .50 and the .308 would pierce along with most all centerfire cartridges, but this, they must keep secret.
First, with the confusion of massive, (although incorrect) technical data and the hammering of urgency, the VPC demands a ban or strict regulations on rifles that chamber a cartridge that has the ability to penetrate targets. Sound ridiculous? It is.
VPC’s Tom Diaz appears often on TV with maps of Washington, DC, irresponsibly instructing where to position one's self to illegally fire on vulnerable important targets of our government, promising these specific targets will be safe when .50s are banned. He pressures politicians to act quickly on this URGENT legislation needed to make these terrorist targets safe, hoping they will act before the VPC lies are discovered.
Now slow down, a ban on a rifle because it chambers a cartridge that has the ability to penetrate targets? By the legislation naming and defining the targets that are damageable by rifle fire, and in this case, .50 cal. rifle fire, they create a new class of rifles, not defined by such foolishness as detachable magazines, flash hiders or pistol grips, but defined by the harm it could do when criminally misused! This is what California has just done! The ultimate gun ban trick has just been created, the banning of rifles before they can be misused!
Now, we are only talking about those powerful .50 calibers, right? That’s what is in the VPC’s direct orders. No, remember they are banning rifles because specific targets named in our infrastructure are susceptible to damage. Now tell me, what centerfire rifle cartridge won’t penetrate those targets? What centerfire rifle cartridge is not powerful? Not many or not any? So in order to comply with the spirit and intent of the law the Attorney General or State Secretary must add those cartridges to the banned list. The big lie is exposed. They aren’t just talking about .50s. They’re after your hunting rifles, centerfire target rifles - just about any rifle you own.
Unlike California, we cannot allow any of our local, state or federal officials to be deceived with any of this “big lie” gun control propaganda. The U.S. has every gun law that could possibly be needed. Virtually every real world scenario of firearm abuse is already covered in some law that is currently on the books.
Many of you have inquired as to the outcome of the letter I wrote to Police Chief Bratten of the LAPD. Unfortunately, the chief’s position did not change. He continued to use his officers in the same deceptive practices formerly utilized with the city council. These few officers testifying in Sacramento ultimately contributed to the unconstitutional AB50 law being passed. It saddened me to have to tell members of the LAPD SWAT team they would have to send someone for their rifle, because I refused to assist anyone or any organization that is in violation of the United States Constitution. In turn, the department arranged to pick up their un-serviced rifle.
Barrett cannot legally sell any of its products to lawbreakers. Therefore, since California’s passing of AB 50, the state is not in compliance with the US Constitution’s 2nd and 14th Amendments, and we will not sell nor service any of our products to any Government agency of the State of California.
I appreciate all the phone calls and emails from LAPD officers and civilians during that time encouraging and supporting our actions. We shall see if other firearms companies will follow this path. I know many are corporately owned and feel like they are unable to risk the life of their company for the liberties of our nation, but if we lose our Republic, our freedom, what good is any of it? I am in the proud and fortunate position that many of our forefathers were in when they risked all for our liberties.
“Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!” Patrick Henry
This “ban large bore” insanity failed in Washington years ago, but that didn’t discourage the VPC. Now it’s resurfacing in city council meetings in individual states, and it’s being reintroduced in Washington. NRA-ILA Executive Director, Chris Cox, once told me “These (anti-freedom, anti-gun) guys never go away, and they never quit.”
I’ve received thousands of emails and letters from you offering encouragement and support. Our Republic, our liberty needs and demands your support. You must take action to guard your rights. First, find your State Senator and State Representative. Tell them not to fall for this scam. This lie depends on the elected official being naive about firearms and their capabilities. Stand ready to carry this same message to your U.S. Senator and Representatives. Know all of your elected officials’ position on gun issues. DO NOT ELECT ANY ANTI-GUN PERSON TO ANY POSITION!
Position yourself with me in the battles we must fight. You need to join the NRA, the .50 Caliber Shooters Association, and the NSSF in order to stay informed. These people have been with me in the trenches fighting for every inch of the liberty you enjoy.
Today we draw a line; there will be no more nibbling at our freedom. Today you stand idle no longer. Today you do something to save our country!
Ronnie Barrett
Owner and CEO
Barrett Firearms Manufacturing Inc.
BTTT
What's wrong Ronnie?
Is a bit of inconvenience too much for your convictions?
So9
I don't think it works that way. If all the pro-gun people move out of California, how does that help the cause? Why set an example of retreat by moving a company that makes quality firearms?
Barrett Firearms Manufacturing, Inc.
P.O. Box 1077
Murfreesboro, TN USA 37133
How do you like your crow served, sir?
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I like it just fine this way.
I just hate to see a gun manufacturer keeping jobs in CA when job loss is the legislatures biggest fear.
So9
BTTT...
Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
trust you to do what? Post inaccuracies about Barrett Firearms Manufacturing, Inc. and where they manufacture the .50's?
Servant of the 9
Since Sep 17, 2003
Why not post your State flag or perhaps what country you are in?
Rona Barrett's STILL around???
Good job, sir. I, for one wondered what Mr. Barrett's response to the Kalifornia ban would be. I think he should refuse to sell to any and ALL LEOs within this socialist state.
LOL! I could have told Mr. Barrett that he's spinning his wheels trying to reason with Bratton. He's been a gun grabber going back to Boston.
BTTT
I think based on Mr Barretts stand I will not purchase one more glockrugerwinchesterremingtonsigsmithandwessonkharberettabrowningcoltspringfieldHKfn until they too take such a stand. It's time. This man is gonna be hard pressed to stop a jobber or distributor from selling to Kali IMHO but if he's good to his word he'll mandate such before the firearms leaves his factory in TN.
I think I'll go buy one more of his 82A1's that I don't need nor can I really afford but it's my way of showing him support and I'll tell him so. Aside all the money I save on the glockrugerwinchesterremingtonsigsmithandwessonkharberettabrowningcoltspringfieldHKfn I was gonna buy this year will be easy to recover..........:o)
Stay safe and yes on the meet in the panhandle when the Kali Patriot Cartel moves west ! You in Venice ? My little bro is in Melborne.
If you get really pissed and decide to throw out your glockrugerwinchesterremingtonsigsmithandwessonkharberettabrowningcoltspringfieldHKfns, please let me know.
No noooooo I just won't "buy" a new glockrugerwinchesterremingtonsigsmithandwessonkharberettabrowningcoltspringfieldHKfn if the companies that sell glockrugerwinchesterremingtonsigsmithandwessonkharberettabrowningcoltspringfieldHKfn's don't stop selling their glockrugerwinchesterremingtonsigsmithandwessonkharberettabrowningcoltspringfieldHKfn's to goobermint socialist organizations........:o)
Trust me to be generally smarter and better informed than you are, even if AI haven't kept up with the move Barrett should have made years ago.
Servant of the 9
Since Sep 17, 2003
Since long before that under other handles
Why not post your State flag or perhaps what country you are in?
Because everyone I care about already knows I'm from Texas.
So9
Molon Labe.
HUA !
; < )
That's what I'm talking about!!
I'd drive down from ATL, if I could get an invite for that one.
I wish I could buy the kinds of guns and ammunition the VPC writes about. They sound way cooler than the real stuff at the gunshop.
Barrett is located in Murfreesboro, Tennessee.
Thanks for the ping Joe, this one's going out to many on my email list.
My Bro gets back from Iraq in late July........I have to go down to his place then so a road trip around the first few weeks of August is in my plans. I'll ping ya !
Stay safe !
Be Ever Vigilant!
VPC contains some of the most effective propagandists in American media. It is disturbing to see them repeatedly craft lies that are both blatant and effective. My only conclusion is that the recipients want them to be true so badly that it doesn't matter.
Where did you get that idea?
Yes, it is. His testimony before the LA City Council some time back gave me the impression he had relocated there.
I have now made my mistake for the millennium.
SO9
He is ding a lot more than other gun manufacturers and should be supported. Just out of curiosity, what are you doing?
Probably because it didn't fail completely. It's enshrined in the definition of "destructive device" in the section 5845 of Title 26 US Code (Internal Revenue code). AFAIK, that definition goes back to the NFA of the mid 1930s. Barrett could not chamber one of his guns for the 14.5mm Russian heavy machine gun round for example, unless he wanted it treated as a destructive device, like a cannon shell or hand grenade. I guess the proposed anti-50 federal law could be accomplished just by changing the definition from greater than 1/2 inch to greater than or equal to, assuming the .50 BMG has a groove to groove diameter of exactly .50 inch, (I suspect it's a tad less).
>>Trust me to be generally smarter and better informed than you are, even if AI haven't kept up with the move Barrett should have made years ago.<<
Let me bring you up to date. Barrett been in Murfreesboro, Tennessee since 1985.
Smarter maybe, better informed? I don't think so.
Congradulations on an indie music reference that .01% of the populace understands!
Are they still around btw?
Servant of the 9 dumbassed a post. Happens all the time. Let's get over it now.
For the same reason Barrett won't sell his firearms to California governmental agencies, to put pressure on the politicians and put then on notice that gun grabbing isn't without political cost. Since money is the driving force behind most liberal politicians (and many others as well) if you hit them in their revenue stream, they might take notice.
But in this case he need not move, since as another poster pointed out, he's out of Tennessee, not California.
Barry, the guy (Barret) sounds like us!
It never ceases to amaze me that the left (liberals/democRATs/socialist) wants to confiscate our firearms. Why am I amazed? Because they MUST know that CWII will settle the argument once and for all.
5.56mm
When you do visit, be sure to bring the M82A1, OK? I've had the pleasure of shooting several models of .50bmg, but that's one I haven't yet had the pleasure of firing. Hey, I'll even bring my own ammo for it. $:-)
Ain't that a shame, that the bottom line comes before principle.
Perhaps the greasy 'loyas' who take cases to disembowl arms manufacturers might want to re-think their stand in the overall picture of the American experiment. Freedom and liberty are, to my understanding, still experimental and those working against it may have yet to face the piper.
Squashing the dirty nightshades is but one facet of vigilance. Bounties, lampposts, and rope are a few others that come to mind.
Shhhhh! Let's see how many other people guess it right.
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They are indeed - they released that album last August. I got to see 'em in late September; they played a live set at a local record store, and then played their real set at a small club.
You just gotta love the way Kim Shattuck screams. She'll tear your heart out. I'm getting goosebumps thinking about "Baby Go Round."
Kali is pushing many of us business owners out with their ridicuolous laws. I talked with Chuck Buck of Buck knives last June at a writer's conference and he's moving Buck to Idaho from El Cajon here. The lights out fiasco with Grayout Davis was the last straw for him.
We're looking east too since the laws to sell guns here in Kali are crazy. Even Wal-Mart is being sucked down the black hole, they recently starting pulling even their pellet guns off the floors. Word is they are tired of trying to jump through the hoops over the gun purchase paperwork. No more gun sales at Wally World and not not even pellet guns now.
I wasn't going to say that he dumbasses a post all the time. Ain't that a bit strong?
Just for the curious, from 1985 until 1998 Ronnie manufactured 2799 rifles, using VPC's numbers here. I hope he's built 50,000 in the last 6 years and every one of them is in civilian hands.
Damn.......your surrounded. Understandable to look for greener fields. Your welcome in Texas my friend......always.
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