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New trigonometry is a sign of the time
physorg.com ^ | September 16, 2005

Posted on 09/18/2005 8:41:47 AM PDT by cloud8

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To: Poincare; cloud8

Sorry Bill Gates et al are my age and so probably had standard math instruction - geometry, algebra, trig, calc, def-eq, Linear algebra, and vectors and maybe numerical analysis. I had to take my daughter out of public school, because all they were teaching her was how to operate a calculator - they had a whole book on what buttons to push, no understanding, no reasoning. After just two years of classical instruction she is excelling at VA Tech.


201 posted on 09/18/2005 4:29:20 PM PDT by TheHound (You would be paranoid too - if everyone was out to get you.)
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To: cloud8
"These new concepts mean that trigonometric problems can be done with algebra,"

If true, this is brilliant.

202 posted on 09/18/2005 4:33:58 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: RightWhale
I would rather have a '55 Chevy Bel-Air in my living room.

Posting to a guy that has a fully restored 1975 Kawasaki 900 sitting inside.....I understand you passion.

203 posted on 09/18/2005 5:03:21 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Peace through Stupidity. NRA)
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To: reg45

It's a joke (ha ha) to explain my overcompensation of now having a room full of computers at home.


204 posted on 09/18/2005 5:23:28 PM PDT by Paladin2 (MSM rioted over Katrina and looted the truth)
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To: MarkL
Why dedicate a function for that when some other function could have been added..

If all one wants to do is find the reciprocal of a particular number, one can simply punch "1" "÷", then the number, then "=" and get the result. Not worth having a special button for that.

On the other hand, if one wants to compute the equivalent parallel resistance of a bunch of resistors, the reciprocal button makes it easy: [res1] "1/x" "+" [res2] "1/x" "+" [res3] "1/x" "=" "1/x". Doing such a computation without the reciprocal button would be rather nuisancesome.

BTW, until it got stolen, I had a Craig calculator with a fun little button called "EX". This would exchange the display register with the holding register. The fact that the calculator had "1/x" and "+/-" buttons obviated what would have been the primary need for this feature, but it was still cute. The calculator was also interesting in that it only had a single "M" key which could be used with other keys, not only for "MC", "M+", "M-", and "M=", but also for such fun things as "Mx" and "M÷" or the classic "M EX".

205 posted on 09/18/2005 5:28:39 PM PDT by supercat (Don't fix blame--FIX THE PROBLEM.)
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To: ScreamingFist

My second choice is a chromed out Harley Sportster.


206 posted on 09/18/2005 5:31:14 PM PDT by RightWhale (We in heep dip trubble)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Looks like "Math for dumb Liberals" - go get the $80 book put it on the shelf and be happy singing gumbayaaaaa!


207 posted on 09/18/2005 5:35:12 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeePeee!)
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To: Poincare

>> I was a victim of New Math, and have never fully recovered.

> With all due respect, you were a victim of bad math teachers.

Screw the "due respect."

"Due respect" is for a bright kid who was stuck in a school in Arkansas.

My school and its teachers--math and otherwise--were superior to most. New math, however, was for kids with an aptitude for the subject. The *only* reason I wasted four years in AP math was for the ol' college record. My own intelligence and creativity lie elsewhere.

Obviously :)


208 posted on 09/18/2005 5:38:32 PM PDT by cloud8
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To: Moonman62
Math is full of silly sounding words and funny looking symbols that put people off.

Like "distance" and "angle" ? This guy wants to replace them with "quadrance" and "spread" - makes things simpler, he says.

209 posted on 09/18/2005 5:48:22 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Leo Carpathian
Looks like "Math for dumb Liberals"

As Howie Mandel says, "Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm - no." His system is motivated by quite arcane considerations, and the only possible appeal that I can see is to its author. In his first chapter he mounts a polemic against angle and length measure, which requires a fair degree of sophistication to appreciate at all, especially since it's entirely wrongheaded.

Note that the two new fundamental concepts he introduces are identical to the square of the length of a line and the square of the sine of an angle, so all the clarity and ease he touts are obtainable by simply leaving these in squared form.

Criswell predicts this is going nowhere.

210 posted on 09/18/2005 6:00:53 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: VeritatisSplendor; snarks_when_bored; cloud8; InterceptPoint
The author's 'Classical Solution' is garbage.

Using the basic trig formula sin(alpha+beta)= sin(45)=1/sqrt(2)

an exact answer can be obtained in about 6 short lines
without solving any messy equations
or using any of his pyrotechniques.

211 posted on 09/18/2005 6:31:39 PM PDT by Allan
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Interesting stuff. Please add me to the Civil Engineer ping list.


212 posted on 09/18/2005 6:36:56 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: Allan

I've been meaning to find a copy of that book. I love the chapter dependency diagram at the beginning -- complicated to the point of being incomprehensible.


213 posted on 09/18/2005 6:57:48 PM PDT by megatherium
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To: MikeinIraq
I wonder when this will make it into my Calculus book...

Give that man a cigar!

Sines and cosines have a life unto themselves -- you can't just define them out of existence. Pity the poor kid who learned "Divine Proportions" in high school, with no clue that he's about to get a very rude awakening in Freshman Calculus.

214 posted on 09/18/2005 7:01:53 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: ScreamingFist
ELI the ICE man?

Inductance - Voltage leads current

Capacitance - Current leads voltage

Courtesy: US Naval Basic Electricity & Electronics Class "A" School
Great Lakes Naval Station, Ill. ('70)

(Jeez, 35 years, I remembered!)

How about:

Bad boys rape our young girls but violet gives willingly get some now...

215 posted on 09/18/2005 7:15:56 PM PDT by Right Winged American (No matter how Cynical I get, I just can't keep up!)
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To: Who dat?
"(Don’t know when that was written but evidently he can play keyboards, accordion and clarinet – evidently at some point they reunited to do some sort of “play” (second paragraph from end"

It looks like 1978 or 79. It was before the Mystic Knights of Oingo Boingo was formed in 79 and their film Forbidden Zone in 1980, which was a follow up to that play.

216 posted on 09/18/2005 7:31:50 PM PDT by elfman2 (2 tacos short of a combination plate)
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To: tarheelswamprat; Who dat?

That’s right. Also the theme song to Weird Science.


217 posted on 09/18/2005 7:33:58 PM PDT by elfman2 (2 tacos short of a combination plate)
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To: Condor51
Oh well I guess this means I'll never have to; sine another contract, cosine for a loan, or .... wait I'm going off on a tangent; what do I do with my

Hold on, we'll get 'round to that.


218 posted on 09/18/2005 7:40:09 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (As an Engineer, you too can control the awesome power of the Ductalator.)
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To: cloud8
Bump for later read!

There are three kinds of people in the world. Those that understand math and those that don't. ;-)

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

219 posted on 09/18/2005 7:42:17 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: spokeshave
To keep our fingers from freezing we would rapidly slide our slide rules....one student even ignited some parchment.

ROFLOL

220 posted on 09/18/2005 7:50:49 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (As an Engineer, you too can control the awesome power of the Ductalator.)
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