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A panther on the prowl? Area woman sees wild cat(Missouri)
The Neosho Daily News ^ | 15 Aug 2006 | Todd G. Higdon

Posted on 08/21/2006 7:18:18 AM PDT by Marius3188

A couple of weeks ago, Kathy Robertson was driving near her home on Tiger Road in eastern Newton County when out of the field jumped a black panther.

“I had heard that they ate chickens around the area,” Robertson said. “But we no longer have chickens in our chicken houses.”

According to Robertson, the panther was long, beautiful, and weighed about 100 pounds.

“When he ran, you could actually see the muscles in him,” said Robertson. “He even had a long tail.”

This was not the first time that Robertson saw a panther. Back in March, she saw another one in a field a few miles away from her farm. Her and her husband, Richard, have lived at their home for more than 20 years.

“I have heard of other people in the area seeing the panthers,” Robertson said.

“I personally have never seen one, but we do get lots of reports that people have seen them,” Missouri Department of Conservation (Neosho office) Resource Technician Roger Schmidt said.

Although mountain lions, sometimes called cougars, pumas, panthers or catamounts, were common in Missouri and elsewhere in the Midwest prior to European settlement, they were eradicated during the 19th century. As the countryside was settled and developed, the large predators were shot. The last native wild mountain lion in Missouri was killed in 1927.

To address the sightings, a Mountain Lion Response Team was formed in 1996. The team responds to calls and collects and analyzes physical evidence of the presence of mountain lions in Missouri.

According to the department's Web site (www.mdc.mo.gov/ conmag/2006/06/20.htm), “we have had only a handful of confirmed mountain lions in Missouri, despite hundreds and hundreds of reports. There have been eight confirmed mountain lions since 1994. One of these was hit by a car near downtown Kansas City in 2002 and another one near Fulton in 2003.”

This is not the first time that rare animals have been spotted in Southwest Missouri. For example, not too long ago, a car struck a bear cub near Elwood Junction.

According to the Missouri Department of Conservation, the bears come from Arkansas.

If anyone sees a black panther or bears, contact the local Missouri Department of Conservation.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Missouri; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: animalrights; callingartbell; cougar; environment; missouri; mountainlion; panther
Btw, In Florida, people often claim to see 'black' panthers. That might be true, but it also could be a Jaguarandi.

They are often a dark color, yet are a small cat in size. I dunno if they have them in MO.

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1 posted on 08/21/2006 7:18:19 AM PDT by Marius3188
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To: Marius3188

I am from and raised in that area,,they are there


2 posted on 08/21/2006 7:19:40 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: Marius3188
 Slurp!

A Mountain Lion's Perspective

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 Ham Frocked ???
Sacked Lunch
 Skinny !
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3 posted on 08/21/2006 7:22:23 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Marius3188; GladesGuru

ping


4 posted on 08/21/2006 7:25:09 AM PDT by Issaquahking (Trust can't be bought)
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To: sure_fine

We had a black bear cub at the bird feeder in our yard three years ago. I called the local MO Conservation office and the guy asked, "Are you sure its a bear ?"


5 posted on 08/21/2006 7:30:15 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: sure_fine

"Kathy Robertson was driving near her home on Tiger Road .."

Well no wonder.


6 posted on 08/21/2006 7:31:10 AM PDT by billhilly
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To: Marius3188
when out of the field jumped a black panther

was he chanting marxist slogans?

7 posted on 08/21/2006 7:39:23 AM PDT by ghost of nixon
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To: ghost of nixon
was he chanting marxist slogans?

No, but he had his fist raised...........

8 posted on 08/21/2006 7:42:09 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The old/liberal/socialist media is the most ruthless and destructive enemy of this country.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
We had a black bear cub at the bird feeder in our yard three years ago

Mornin' Eric.

The wife and I, along with several of our neighbors, have seen a large cat or cats here in SE Tennessee. Each time it was near sunset and each time it was in nearly the same place along Hwy 111. Judging by its gait there is no doubt it was a cat, but big, like the size of a large German Sheppard, with a long, thick tail. When I saw it it was difficult to determine the exact color, but I'd say it was dark, but not completely black like a Florida panther. The color was more like the winter coat of a Whitetail deer.

Some years ago I was building a cell system in East Kentucky, near Pikeville, for Bell. During the construction several folks I met up there said that large cats had also been seen in the vicinity. One person in particular related a story to me that occurred at his house during a family reunion party. During this event, the hosts dog, tied up on the opposite side of the house from the gathering, started barking and squealing as if it were being attacked. When everyone ran around the house to see what was going on they arrived just in time to see the dog, now lifeless, being dragged off into the woods by a large, panther-like cat. When they called the local game warden he laughed it off and told them that they couldn't have seen what they saw. Tell that to the dog.....

9 posted on 08/21/2006 7:42:18 AM PDT by Thermalseeker
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To: Marius3188
Recently a guy in OK....is swearing up and down...he's got a BIG cat eating his livestock....( chickens, goats, llama's..)

FWIW

10 posted on 08/21/2006 7:43:32 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The old/liberal/socialist media is the most ruthless and destructive enemy of this country.)
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To: sure_fine; g'nad
If anyone sees a black panther or bears, contact the local Missouri Department of Conservation.

And they'll add you to the list of "hundreds and hundreds" of obviously confused people who *think* they've seen something. I mean, the mountain lions were "eradicated during the 19th century" and Missouri Department of Conservation (Neosho office) Resource Technician Roger Schmidt has never even seen one!

/sarc

11 posted on 08/21/2006 7:46:17 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (It's hot outside.)
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To: Thermalseeker

You've heard the story about the Missouri youngster who ran home to tell hid dad that there was an Arkansas bear caught in a trap...


12 posted on 08/21/2006 7:47:03 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Weird that they are black. All the mountain lions I've ever seen or seen pictures of are tawny. Do black ones exist? I thought only Jaguars and pehaps Leopards had black variations?


13 posted on 08/21/2006 7:54:45 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Marius3188
I've haven't heard of a black cougar, although I suppose its possible.

( No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo!)

14 posted on 08/21/2006 7:57:20 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Marius3188
I am wondering if the 'black panther' is a different species from the 'tan mountain lion'.
15 posted on 08/21/2006 8:02:16 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Marius3188

When I lived on the family ranch in Central Texas, I went walking in the field near a ravine about dusk one evening with my 2 year old on my shoulders. We weren't 10 minutes from the house when I heard a cougar scream. It IS the most hair-raising sound, just as I had always heard. Sounded just like a woman screaming bloody murder. I went right home & we walked (or cycled) the road thereafter.


16 posted on 08/21/2006 8:02:54 AM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: george76

I think I've been at "After Dinner" Is that in New Zealand?


17 posted on 08/21/2006 8:04:09 AM PDT by IM2MAD
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To: 2Jedismom

And the Missouri Conservation Dept also kept pooh poohing reports of bear sightings around here until a young lady hit a two hundred pounder while driving to school...right smack dab in downtown Jackson, Mo.


18 posted on 08/21/2006 8:16:57 AM PDT by Conservababe
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To: Marius3188
We just had a sighting in Dillsburg,PA about two weeks ago. A woman saw it from the window of her house. We have had several sightings in the area but the PA Department of Natural Resources states that it couldn't possibly be a migratory cat and believes somebody turned it loose. Woman reports seeing mountain lion near her house Friday, August 04, 2006 BY T.W. BURGER Of Our Dillsburg Bureau DILLSBURG - Jan Dignazio looked out the window of her den and slapped herself in the face. "I couldn't believe what I was seeing," she said. "I slapped myself and pinched myself, and it was still there. And it was big." It was a sunny afternoon in early June. The cat was just across the road, "as big as the cats you see in the zoo," Dignazio said. She had just finished walking her dog when she spotted it. "There were a couple of kids on a bicycle coming down the road," she said. "I thought, 'Oh, my God, what if it goes after them,' but it just kept going toward a row of trees." The two kids sharing the bicycle never saw the animal and neither did anybody else. She called The Patriot-News after she saw a story in Sunday's edition about a horse that was attacked in Mifflin Twp., Dauphin County, by what some believe was a mountain lion. Joe Kosack, a spokesman for the state game commission, said it is not impossible that Dignazio saw a mountain lion. It also is not likely, he said. "There is no sustaining population of mountain lions in Pennsylvania," Kosack said. "That's not to say somebody might not have had one as an exotic pet and got tired of it and released it." "I saw what I saw," she said. "I'm not crazy, I wasn't drinking, and I wasn't on medication. I saw a mountain lion."
19 posted on 08/21/2006 8:18:06 AM PDT by Belasarius (Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
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To: Belasarius

Anybody else having trouble with formating? I can't get it to take paragraph breaks.


20 posted on 08/21/2006 8:19:23 AM PDT by Belasarius (Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
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To: texas_mrs

I saw one near Marble Falls, very late in the evening about 10 years ago. It jumped over an 8' game fence as easily as a house cat jumps onto a chair. We heard it scream later that night and it is indeed hair-raising.


21 posted on 08/21/2006 8:25:48 AM PDT by highnoon (Expectations are dissapointments under construction.)
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To: Marius3188

OMG... animals on land. Who would have imagined!


22 posted on 08/21/2006 8:27:58 AM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: Ditter
I've always heard that the panther, cougar, mountain lion, and puma are just subspecies of the same animal -- just different names. If you google one of those names, you'll see that idea implied (or even said outright) in all of the sources.
23 posted on 08/21/2006 8:43:28 AM PDT by RedWhiteBlue
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To: Jack Black
Weird that they are black. All the mountain lions I've ever seen or seen pictures of are tawny. Do black ones exist? I thought only Jaguars and pehaps Leopards had black variations?

I've seen many mountain lions where I live but I've never seen a black one.
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24 posted on 08/21/2006 9:18:20 AM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: Marius3188
Her and her husband, Richard, have lived at their home for more than 20 years.

Another Neosho HS product writing for the hometown paper, I see.

25 posted on 08/21/2006 9:22:57 AM PDT by Defiant (Let the Muzzies travel on their own airlines so they don't endanger the rest of us.)
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To: Defiant

I remember Neosho getting smacked by a tornado back in 74 or 75... I was in the town about an hour afterward.


26 posted on 08/21/2006 9:32:03 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Jack Black
Weird that they are black. All the mountain lions I've ever seen or seen pictures of are tawny. Do black ones exist?

There's an area in central PA known s 'Black Panther'. A relative has a camp out there, and says they regularly see a black mountain lion (panther) out in their fields. They aren't likely to get the game commission involved though - who wants those officers checking out your property all the time? The PGC already knows they are a law unto themselves.

They also are notorious for denying the existence of mountain lions in PA unless they are "escaped pets". A guy my brother works with saw one hit along the road in central PA - he knows it was a mountain lion because he got out and looked at it up close. He called the game commission about it (they are responsible for picking up road kill). When he called back and asked about it, they denied it existed. When he persisted and said he saw it and he called them, they said well, ok, there was a mountain lion but it was an escaped pet. Really adds to their credibility when they reflexively deny, deny, deny.

27 posted on 08/21/2006 9:32:59 AM PDT by Kay Ludlow (Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
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To: Marius3188; GladesGuru

FL Panthers are tan in color and have webbed-feet to prowl the swamps.


28 posted on 08/21/2006 9:33:42 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Marius3188
"Her and her husband, Richard, have lived at their home for more than 20 years. "

This reporter needs a grammar lesson.

Carolyn

29 posted on 08/21/2006 9:40:28 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: Marius3188
"As the countryside was settled and developed, the large predators were shot."

And we can thank the white settlers for doing this before "Bambi" and PETA came along.

Also, Kudos to the earliest inhabitants of this continent for wiping out cave bears and saber-tooth tigers. (And that with nothing but stone tipped hunting gear!) We have enough problems with raccoons in our trash cans let alone large powerful hungry carnivores stalking about our neighborhoods and suburbs.
30 posted on 08/21/2006 9:42:37 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission (Here kitty, kitty!)
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To: Marius3188

There have been big wild cats in Missouri for many years. No big news here.

I suspect that most of the sightings are real.


31 posted on 08/21/2006 11:13:55 AM PDT by TexanToTheCore (This space for hire...)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

" We had a black bear cub at the bird feeder in our yard three years ago. I called the local MO Conservation office and the guy asked, "Are you sure its a bear ? "




they act like people are as stupid as they are


32 posted on 08/21/2006 2:37:38 PM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: sure_fine

I, my neighbors,and several of my nephews and friends have caught glimpses of them here in the central Arkansas Ouachita Mtns. too. Typically it's around October-November when we see them come through. I think they must be migrating through our area during that timeperiod. The one I caught a glimpse of was when I was muzzleloading on top of a mountain ridge in October. It made the hair on my neck stand up! I won't forget it.


33 posted on 08/21/2006 2:44:46 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (This is no time for bleeding hearts, pacifists, and appeasers to prevail in free world opinion.)
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To: Belasarius

When I lived in Northern California about 25 years ago, I saw a large mountain lion scouting through a field on a hillside. Of course, the fish and game people told me I was nuts, there hadn't been mountain lions there since who knows when, etc. Suffice it to say that now, after several people in that area have been killed by mountain lions, they are no longer denying it...


34 posted on 08/21/2006 2:50:18 PM PDT by livius
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I've been through there many a time. It's a nice little town. I wonder if it's become a suburb of Joplin.


35 posted on 08/21/2006 3:21:20 PM PDT by Defiant (Let the Muzzies travel on their own airlines so they don't endanger the rest of us.)
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To: stainlessbanner
Actually, the "Florida Panther" is now over 50% Texas panther, thanks to another hair-brained project funded under the section six cooperative agreement of the Endangered Species Act.

Lest any non-biologist be misled by the panther panderers/panther profiteers, ALL such cats living north of the southern border of Mexico are all the same subspecies.

In the woerds of one of the world's leading DNA researchers, "the fifteen previously identified subspecies in North America are not affirmed (by DNA analysis)."

We are paying hundreds of millions of dollars to support a swarm of agency "scientists", and one of the national leaders in such research, one Deborah Jansen, can't even correctly identify the gender of a captured cat on which she hung a radio collar.

And, if you think she is merely 'being blonde', her project vet, Dr. Blankenship, signed the erroneous capture report. One can conceivable understand a blonde rangerette making such an error - but a vet? ? ?

Not to mention the "houndsman" who was on the scene.

And there is more, so don't go away.

Later,two treeings of the panther family later, 'Lil Debbie realized her error. Rather than admit she and her entire team of "panther experts" erred, she rationalized (falsified, in my opinion), the annual report.

Google the Big Cypress National Preserve's Panther Project Annual Report for 2004, Deborah Jansen, Project Leader.

Any who want the actual capture reports, either FRmail me or go www.EvergladesInstitute.org in a few weeks when both an article on this panther debacle and all the data will be posted.

In the meantime, consider that both cats and 'crats (bureaucrats) lie in positions of concealment. There has been so much outright fraud by agency scientists that I fear for the reputation of science/scientists.
36 posted on 08/21/2006 7:42:09 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principles, - -)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I live in southwest MO. We had something that looked like a bear in our pasture. It was a little far away to tell, but it sure wasn't a dog. I called the conservation dept. and asked if there were bears around here. They told me yes.


37 posted on 09/02/2006 9:32:26 PM PDT by knuthom
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I called the local MO Conservation office and the guy asked, "Are you sure its a bear ?"

Well, it might have been a starling... Or a squirrel. You never know...

Mark

38 posted on 09/02/2006 9:42:50 PM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I called the local MO Conservation office and the guy asked, "Are you sure its a bear ?"

Well, it might have been a starling... Or a squirrel. You never know...

Mark

39 posted on 09/02/2006 9:43:08 PM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: 2Jedismom
And they'll add you to the list of "hundreds and hundreds" of obviously confused people who *think* they've seen something. I mean, the mountain lions were "eradicated during the 19th century" and Missouri Department of Conservation (Neosho office) Resource Technician Roger Schmidt has never even seen one!

No kidding. The MO DoC just laughed off reports of mountain lions in Kansas City, until the one was hit by a car. It wasn't just near Kansas City. It was in a wooded area, with all sorts of natural caves, that's adjacent to "Worlds of Fun," which is an amusement park. Lots of little kids wandering around there.

It's doubtful that there would be any attacks, since there are so many people around there, and the DoC said that it appeared that the lion had been feeding on deer (and there's really been a huge increase in the deer population around KC), so the lion probably wasn't desperate. But if the deer population drops, or the cat is old or sick, then I'd be more than a little bit concerned.

Mark

40 posted on 09/02/2006 9:48:40 PM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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