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ACLU Says "God Bless America" Unconstitutional in School
The Sacramento Bee ^ | October 6, 2001 | Ryan McCarthy

Posted on 10/06/2001 1:51:40 PM PDT by Star Traveler

Edited on 04/12/2004 5:31:42 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The ACLU says the message 'God Bless America' divides kids by religion and is unconstitutional.

A demand by the American Civil Liberties Union that Breen Elementary School in Rocklin remove a "God Bless America" sign prompted angry parents, students and administrators to rally at the school Friday evening.


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1 posted on 10/06/2001 1:51:41 PM PDT by Star Traveler (aldebaran6640@hotmail.com)
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To: Star Traveler
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!! (hope i didnt offend anybody, or make anyone here feel uncomfortable)
2 posted on 10/06/2001 1:55:37 PM PDT by nocommies
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To: Star Traveler
Why don't they change it to "In God We Trust."

And when is the ACLU going to sue the U.S. Mint?

3 posted on 10/06/2001 1:56:39 PM PDT by angkor
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To: Star Traveler
painful rectal itch to the aclu.
4 posted on 10/06/2001 1:58:03 PM PDT by Rustynailww
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To: nocommies
God Bless America!Love it or leave it!
5 posted on 10/06/2001 1:58:20 PM PDT by Disgusted in Texas
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To: Star Traveler

ACLU's beliefs and mandates are unconstitutional in our schools

n'ough said.

6 posted on 10/06/2001 1:58:49 PM PDT by lavaroise
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To: ALL
Won't someone relieve me of the menace of the ACLU?
7 posted on 10/06/2001 1:59:24 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: Star Traveler
Stella Richardson, media relations director for the ACLU of Northern California, said, "It is entirely unprecedented" for a school not to take down a message such as Breen displays.

Translation: Something's just not right. Usually they roll over for us (ACLU terrorists).

8 posted on 10/06/2001 1:59:44 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: Star Traveler
Hope I don't offend anybody but the A.C.L.U. can just jump up Irish *ss. God bless America. Semper Fi, Mike
10 posted on 10/06/2001 2:00:09 PM PDT by HEFFERNAN2
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To: angkor
The enemy is not just in the middle east, watch your backs the ACLU is here.-MM
11 posted on 10/06/2001 2:00:45 PM PDT by mustapha mond
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To: Star Traveler
If only every school district stood up to the ACLU like this. The stand being taken by the ACLU does not promote freedom or protect civil liberties. The Bill of Rights guarantees freedom of speech. It also rightly separates church and state. God is not a church. Our children are not the state.
12 posted on 10/06/2001 2:01:34 PM PDT by ThreeG
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To: Star Traveler
The ACLU couldn't have picked a worse time for this nonsense. May God indeed bless America, and remove these idiotic notions from our sight!
13 posted on 10/06/2001 2:01:58 PM PDT by LeeMcCoy
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To: rdb3
I ditto your feelings.
14 posted on 10/06/2001 2:02:10 PM PDT by oust the louse
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To: angkor

Why don't they change it to "In God We Trust."
And when is the ACLU going to sue the U.S. Mint?

I keep waiting for the wild and crazy idiots over there to do that next.

15 posted on 10/06/2001 2:02:34 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: lavaroise
Who died and left ACLU in charge of the world? Where does this self-appointed bunch get off by imposing their views on the rest of us? Do we have to obey the unjust legal rulings they foist on the unsuspecting public? How about a little civil disobedience to their edicts?
16 posted on 10/06/2001 2:02:56 PM PDT by alloysteel
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To: JA
What you need to understand is that some of us will NEVER accept a Godless taxpayer (ME) funded public sector. Thats not to hard to understand is it?-MM
17 posted on 10/06/2001 2:04:01 PM PDT by mustapha mond
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To: Star Traveler
Hmmmmm. "Allah Bless America" has an interesting ring to it! Today, I noticed that a local Catholic church has a beautiful flag displayed at its rectory, but the church itself was flagless ... keep Church and State apart! Our mental efforts with regard to our civil and, in these times both corporal and fiscal rights, would be better spent on demanding that our government revoke all the H-1 Visas in this country who have taken jobs from United States citizens, no? Thanks for the post. Susan M. Davidson - my e-mail: susan@susanmdavidson.com
19 posted on 10/06/2001 2:05:00 PM PDT by susanmdavidson
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To: LeeMcCoy

The ACLU couldn't have picked a worse time for this nonsense. May God indeed bless America, and remove these idiotic notions from our sight!

We could send the whole "lot" of them (ACLU) over to talk to Osama bin Laden (tell him their his "defense team"), and then nuke 'em all at once. :) :)

That's getting rid of two evil groups at once (save our cruise missiles...).

20 posted on 10/06/2001 2:05:45 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler
How very responsible of you. LOL.-MM
22 posted on 10/06/2001 2:08:16 PM PDT by mustapha mond
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To: susanmdavidson

Hmmmmm. "Allah Bless America" has an interesting ring to it!

Well..., then it's about time to start a campaign to "GET ALLAH OUT OF AMERICA" We don't want the devil in America.

23 posted on 10/06/2001 2:08:48 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: alloysteel
Bump!
25 posted on 10/06/2001 2:11:22 PM PDT by EdReform
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To: Star Traveler
GOD BLESS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT for not caving in to the ridiculous demands of the ACLU. Too many are not willing to stand up against these troublemakers.
26 posted on 10/06/2001 2:12:11 PM PDT by FreePaul
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To: Star Traveler
Gutless, they pick on an elementary school. Where were they when President Bush said: "God Bless America". Time this nonsense stopped. Stand up to them. They will melt away.
28 posted on 10/06/2001 2:14:28 PM PDT by Bounceback
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To: Star Traveler
I would like to see this organization remove the "American" from their title, since they most certainly do not represent American values. CLU would be more appropriate.
29 posted on 10/06/2001 2:14:29 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason
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To: Star Traveler
dubya_wins_again member since October 4th, 2001
30 posted on 10/06/2001 2:17:08 PM PDT by facedown
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To: Star Traveler
Such a pity the ACLU HQ wasn't on the top floor of the WTC.
31 posted on 10/06/2001 2:17:40 PM PDT by fso301
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To: GottliebBerger

It is time that the ACLU members are placed behind barbed wires.

Better yet..., put them all out on the patrols in Afghanistan. Each can be the "point man", while looking for Osama (put bells on their boots).

32 posted on 10/06/2001 2:17:44 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler
The ACLU contends that the words broadcast "a hurtful, divisive message."

Message to the ACLU: Keep pushing it on this one. I wouldn't back up, compromise, or appear to give ground in any way. If you do, it will tear down everything you've worked for. Come on, push it on this one.

33 posted on 10/06/2001 2:19:45 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: Major Matt Mason

I would like to see this organization remove the "American" from their title, since they most certainly do not represent American values. CLU would be more appropriate.

More appropriate would be Anti-American Communist Liberation Union.

34 posted on 10/06/2001 2:21:37 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: JA
If that's your stance, you should have no problem in joining the effort to get the federal government out of our schools. No federal government involvement equals no suppression of the free expression of religion in school districts, right?
35 posted on 10/06/2001 2:22:19 PM PDT by Twodees
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To: Twodees
Govt. schools-teachers-parties(taliban-nazis)--"education(brainwashing-indoctrination)" coupled with high taxation is the worst tyranny-evil-RELIGION perpetuated on our society-families-parents-children!
37 posted on 10/06/2001 2:29:06 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian
Where's the contact info for the school so we can send email's to encourage them to tell the aclu to go get lost?
38 posted on 10/06/2001 2:34:30 PM PDT by GailA
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To: JA
School is different. That's not too hard to understand is it?

That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. So what if the board said "Imaginery Friend Bless America", if it makes people feel good and patriotic so the freak what? The ONLY religion that could be "offended" is no religion at all. In which case, even they should have the good will to recognize that 99% percent of the public is touched and encouraged by such a message.

39 posted on 10/06/2001 2:41:27 PM PDT by Media2Powerful
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To: Bounceback
Gutless, they pick on an elementary school. Where were they when President Bush said: "God Bless America". Time this nonsense stopped. Stand up to them. They will melt away.

That is an excellent point!

Hey, ACLU, PICK ON SOMEONE YOUR OWN SIZE

It's the same with the gay activists picking on Boy Scouts. They should be ashamed. An adult subject like homosexuality should be argued amongst adults, not children.

40 posted on 10/06/2001 2:44:43 PM PDT by Media2Powerful
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To: JA
Hogwash! Separation of church and state is nothing more than the government shall not establish a religion. In other words, the government won't start the Church of America.

To recite the Pledge of Allegiance or say "God Bless America" or to acknowledge or even (gasp!) teach the 10 commandments in school or anywhere else is not unconstitutional.

What is unconstitutional is denying people their rights to freedom of speech and freedom of religion, regardless of where they are at any given moment.

Americans are mad as hell and we're not going to take it anymore.

41 posted on 10/06/2001 2:46:39 PM PDT by alnick
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To: Star Traveler
"ACLU attorney Crosby said Friday that "this is a time when we need to promote unity among Americans of all faiths. Many schools are flying flags to instill a sense of unity in a time of trouble."

Jehovah's witnesses have some problems with the flag, and refuse to participate in the flag salute, and there are Muslims who are offended by our flag and all it represents. There are anarchists who are offended by the very existence of government or any symbols of patriotism.

I personally am offended by the ACLU, but I doubt that's enough to make them go away. Too bad.

42 posted on 10/06/2001 2:50:49 PM PDT by watchin
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To: Star Traveler
A reminder to New Yorkers, Norman Siegel formerly head of NY ACLU is running for Consumer Advocate. He is in a run off elections Oct.11th.
43 posted on 10/06/2001 2:51:50 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: Star Traveler
Displaying such a message is not only unconstitutional "but implies only students who share the faith are truly patriotic," she stated.

Huh? Share WHAT faith? The utterly conflicting faiths which share something called "God" in their belief systems are to numerous to mention--"Allah" just means "God" in Arabic; the Unitarian "God" is just a symbolic entity; the "God" of the Jews has designated them the "chosen people"; the "God" of the Christian Identity crowd wants his followers to exterminate the Jews; the "God" of the Mormons is just one of many gods; etc., etc.

Speaking as a pagan, I can say that a sign reading "God Bless America" causes me no offense whatsoever. The universe got here by means of some incredibly powerful force that none of us can fully comprehend, and referring to it by it most common appellation in the English language should cause offense to no one who isn't on a full-time mission of trying to be offended.

44 posted on 10/06/2001 2:51:59 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: JA
Let's see if you're bright enough to understand. The constitutional phrase is the "establishment of religion". Are you really so theophobic as to maintain that a "God bless America" statement establishes a religion? I think you must be missing your totalitarian homeland, where the practice of religion is prohibited.
45 posted on 10/06/2001 2:57:43 PM PDT by watchin
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To: alloysteel
the a.c.l.u.has absolutely no legal authority whatsoever!they probably broke the law when they took down the sign.the only way to neutralize them is by open defiance and a show of people power.
46 posted on 10/06/2001 3:00:02 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Speaking as a pagan, I can say that a sign reading "God Bless America" causes me no offense whatsoever. The universe got here by means of some incredibly powerful force that none of us can fully comprehend, and referring to it by it most common appellation in the English language should cause offense to no one who isn't on a full-time mission of trying to be offended.

Would you like to send a message to the ACLU about how unpatriotic is their organization? Your wisdom is why America works, we respect each other's opionions, not get offended by them. That is so tired and we need to get over that "I'm offended" crap. Why can't we tell them to grow up and stop trying to control the world?

47 posted on 10/06/2001 3:01:34 PM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: Star Traveler
According to the ACLU:

God Bless America - hurtful divisive language.

F**k you - protected free speech.

48 posted on 10/06/2001 3:01:47 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: GailA

Where's the contact info for the school so we can send email's to encourage them to tell the aclu to go get lost?

Here's a page for them --

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49 posted on 10/06/2001 3:02:14 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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I suppose they will be after the President next, demanding he not close every speech with God Bless America.
50 posted on 10/06/2001 3:05:39 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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