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Terrorists Use Bosnia as Base and Sanctuary
LA Times ^ | October 7, 2001 | CRAIG PYES, JOSH MEYER and WILLIAM C. REMPEL

Posted on 10/06/2001 11:58:00 PM PDT by pythagorean

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:22 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

ZENICA, Bosnia--Herzegovina -- Hundreds of foreign Islamic extremists who became Bosnian citizens after battling Serbian and Croatian forces present a potential terrorist threat to Europe and the United States, according to a classified U.S. State Department report and interviews with international military and intelligence sources.

The extremists include hard-core terrorists, some with ties to Osama bin Laden, protected by militant elements of the former Sarajevo government. Bosnia-Herzegovina is "a staging area and safe haven" for terrorists, said one former senior State Department official.


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Must follow link for the rest of this Los Angeles Times article.

An amazingly informative article that, since it is written by a very influential mainstream source, will serve any analyst of the Bosnian war as a powerful and convincing reference. A must read for anyone interested in either Islamist terrorism or the recent Balkan wars.

1 posted on 10/06/2001 11:58:00 PM PDT by pythagorean
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To: pythagorean
Gee,don't we have a lot of NATO troops stationed there?What are they doing besides waiting to be blown to pieces by these guys?
2 posted on 10/07/2001 1:43:41 AM PDT by alithia
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To: pythagorean,Pericles,oxi-nato
bttt
3 posted on 10/07/2001 1:46:19 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee, pythagorean
Shocked that its publisjed at all.
4 posted on 10/07/2001 2:05:09 AM PDT by Pericles
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To: Hoplite, Torie, vooch, randalcousins, Hamiltonian, Great Dane, randalcousins, Putnik_1915,Black Jade
Enjoy. I sure did.
5 posted on 10/07/2001 2:07:38 AM PDT by Pericles
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To: Pericles
An article in "The Ottawa Citizen," last week.

Canadian soldiers in Macedonia reported that the terrorists there were not handing over their weapons, the only weapons handed over, were junk, not one of the weapons were operational, just as we suspected, the rebels has plenty of weapons to keep up the fight, and they will.

6 posted on 10/07/2001 10:10:04 AM PDT by Great Dane
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To: Great Dane
I wish you could find and post it!
7 posted on 10/07/2001 10:16:21 AM PDT by Pericles
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To: pythagorean
I am deeply disappointed about Izetbegovic, based on the contents of the article, but things seem to be improving, to wit from the article:

"U.S. and SFOR officials acknowledge that the new coalition government in Sarajevo has become much more responsive to fighting terrorism. A senior State Department official lauded Sarajevo this year for "working with the international community" in trying to clamp down on suspected terrorists.

"Since Sept. 11, Bosnia has launched an audit of passports and mounted a more intensive crackdown on those naturalized citizens who are wanted by foreign law enforcement agencies. After years of inaction, several international fugitives have been arrested this year and extradited."

8 posted on 10/07/2001 12:05:20 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Pericles
I will see if I can find it.
9 posted on 10/07/2001 6:38:17 PM PDT by Great Dane
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To: Pericles
Then there's no reason you shouldn't enjoy reading this or this.

Knowledge being power and all.

11 posted on 10/08/2001 9:13:26 AM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
your allies that you championed, Hoplite. I am glad you remember them and I will not let you forget them.
12 posted on 10/08/2001 1:38:02 PM PDT by Pericles
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To: Pericles
I have no intention of ever forgetting, Pericles.


13 posted on 10/08/2001 3:23:05 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
I see nothing of importance to concern me as an American in that picture.

PS: Probably one less future Osama operative, too

14 posted on 10/08/2001 7:10:23 PM PDT by Pericles
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To: Hoplite
It sickens me to see Iztbegovic Islamic fanatics shooting children for propaganda purposes.....and it especially sickens me that the bullets were bought with dollars provided by Clinton's Humanitarian Warriors
15 posted on 10/09/2001 7:33:00 AM PDT by vooch
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To: Pericles
re : I see nothing of importance to concern me as an American in that picture.

Well at least you have the guts to dump all that fake moral outrage the Balkans war that is so common amongst the FreeRepublic Balkan Front Club.

It was one side against another side start middle and end, people lived and people died, age and sex is immaterial.

Tony

16 posted on 10/09/2001 7:39:24 AM PDT by tonycavanagh
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To: tonycavanagh, Hoplite, vooch, Travis McGee
YOU ARE WRONG. I am filled with moral outrage! but at the outrage of my country's (USA) diplomacy in Bosnia and in Kosovo and in FYROM and throughout the FYugoslavia and the Balkans these last 8 years. The only moral outrage I have a right to is the conduct of my country and how it deals with other entities.

That poor child could very well have been that honor student gunned down in Brooklyn over the weekend by a victim of mistaken identity by a gangster drive by (thanks again to Clinton not enforcing gun laws). A scene repeated in Los Angeles, Compton, Washington D.C., etc.

In this and all things I refer back to the classics and remember the words of a Spartan diplomat when told by a leading citizen of another Greek city that he was a friend to Sparta the Spartan replied "Be a friend to your own city instead".

The USA under Clinton got more Bosnians killed then would have in the normal course of events, and it seems after 9/11 Clinton's Bosnia policy set up the deaths of 6,000 plus Americans as well, with more to come.

17 posted on 10/09/2001 8:15:54 AM PDT by Pericles
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To: Pericles
I preferred post 14 to 17, 14 you were being truthful. post 17 was just too theatrical for my taste

Any way as you said probably one less future Osama operative, too, I have thought the same way about some people who got killed in military operations I took part in so I am not condemning you.

You don’t like the present Government of Bosnia, or Croatia, as stated in other replies, you backed one side against the other, problem was your government backed the side that you opposed, throughout that campaign.

As for reasons for the attack against America

/11 Clinton's Bosnia policy set up the deaths of 6,000 plus Americans as well, with more to come.

That is definitely up there with the wacky backy lot.

Tony

18 posted on 10/09/2001 9:29:59 AM PDT by tonycavanagh
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To: tonycavanagh, Black Jade
post 17 was just too theatrical for my taste

You can check my bookmarks for the Balkan links from 2 years ago when I said the exact same thing either for Kosovo or Bosnia.

I do not begrudge the existance of Croatia as a nation. I even think it has a right to exist. But for what it did (with US over and covert military aid) in Krajina I demand a correction and reckoning and as for Bosnia, may that fruit loop of a fake nation rot for all I care. I want my nation's troops out of there. Let the pretense end. Bosnia is not never has been and never will be a nation. Any continued attempt to keep it wole is a waste of my tax dollars and a waste of the training and talent of American soldiers.

Clinton's Bosnia policy set up the deaths of 6,000 plus Americans as well, with more to come.

That is definitely up there with the wacky backy lot.

What part of "Terrorists Use Bosnia as Base and Sanctuary" do you not get?

You do know that the 9/11 cadres recruited for Osama in the Balkans, no? Black Jade can get you the links.

19 posted on 10/09/2001 9:41:26 AM PDT by Pericles
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To: Pericles
re : Clinton's Bosnia policy set up the deaths of 6,000 plus Americans as well, with more to come.

What that reads to me is that because of Clintons Balkan Policy Osama Bin Laden struck at America.

And there was me thinking that it was because Osama Bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri wants America out of the Middle East.

re : What part of "Terrorists Use Bosnia as Base and Sanctuary" do you not get?.

Hmm the same part that did not get it, that in America there were also Terrorists using Base's and Sanctuary during the 70s and 80s and part of the 90s.

You don’t like Bosnia, well that’s ok you don’t have to, and I enjoy the Balkan information/dis information and any other mation that gets posted here and I even give your thread a little bump now and then.

Views are polarised here not unlike most other nations.

As for your Government well it looks as if we have a long and happy partnership of putting the world to rights ahead of us.

As for Croatia 1994, well the Balkans was a very nasty place with lots of nasty people free to do what they want in the name of the greater this and greater that and even the greater other, I was out there I saw what went on and who did what to who, got my experience the hard way not sitting on my butt playing with my PC.

See ya later Glad I could bump this thread again

Tony

20 posted on 10/09/2001 9:57:03 AM PDT by tonycavanagh
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To: tonycavanagh
And with all due respect Tony, what a waste for you that you spent some of your life there in the first place, but the Brits always had a problem with the Humpty Dumpty principle. Your service to your crown in the Balkans was a waste of your sweat and time. I am glad you had a nice tour, not the same as if your born and raised there.
21 posted on 10/09/2001 11:54:22 AM PDT by Pericles
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To: Black Jade
Did not some of the 9/11 terrorists recruit for Bosnia as well?
23 posted on 10/09/2001 11:22:08 PM PDT by Pericles
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To: Pericles,Black Jade
They were all Arabs, around 11 of the 19 were Saudi Arabians, a nation that has 5000 American troops based there.

Instead of wetting your self over the Balkans, you should look at a real threat to America.

What is Americas Middle East role? and why ?

24 posted on 10/10/2001 2:18:16 AM PDT by tonycavanagh
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To: tonycavanagh, Black Jade
Tony, if the threat is Arab Islamists spreading their brand of fundamentalisim in the Middle East, do you not think a Western (UK, USA) policy that INVITES these organizations into the Balkans is not a good thing??
25 posted on 10/10/2001 6:54:33 AM PDT by Pericles
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To: Pericles
Inviting Arab radical Islamises is not a good thing, I was told that in a briefing in 1993, which was titled why we have to get in there before the towel heads. Joking about the title, but the content was not too dissimilar.

I could wax lyrically about what might have happen if we did not, but at the end of the day it is what might have been.

The fact is the majority of Bosnians are about as religious as you and me, and we both know how much that is.

Yes they have a few stay behinds a few extremists all of the Arab persuasion, they are tolerated after all they did do there bit during the war, but Bosnia is not an Arabic foothold into the heart of Europe, not if you meet the young.

Christianity might not stand up to Islam, but Islam takes a poor second to MTV, you should read the after reports of European Muslims fighting in the third world.

You Americans are slowly winning the cultural war, I think even Osama Bin Laden knows that which is why he wanted to ignite this Holy war in the first place.

One day we will all be liberal feminised and part of the Gaystapo, and politically correct, even the Muslims

Tony

26 posted on 10/10/2001 7:08:51 AM PDT by tonycavanagh
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To: tonycavanagh
"Inviting Arab radical Islamises is not a good thing, I was told that in a briefing in 1993, which was titled why we have to get in there before the towel heads. Joking about the title, but the content was not too dissimilar."

The Mujahedeen were arriving already in the summer of 1992.

27 posted on 10/10/2001 7:52:04 AM PDT by joan
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To: joan
Yes but I was involved in another conflict at the time which was slightly more pressing.

Tony

28 posted on 10/10/2001 7:56:47 AM PDT by tonycavanagh
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To: Hoplite
notice that your Mujahdeen pals are getting rounded up in Bosnia.
30 posted on 10/10/2001 12:33:17 PM PDT by vooch
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To: vooch
But Vooch, all Muslims in the former FRY are Mujahadeen.

Aren't they?

And where's Osama bin Oric - who's watching him?

31 posted on 10/10/2001 6:53:46 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
But Vooch, all Muslims in the former FRY are Mujahadeen.

They also act as wholesale distributors for Afghan heroin. Aint you proud of yourself?

32 posted on 10/10/2001 6:59:38 PM PDT by Hamiltonian
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To: Hamiltonian
No, that's the Kosovar Albanians.

Get your Balkan prejudices straight.

33 posted on 10/10/2001 7:18:35 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite, Pericles, DTA, Vojvodina,
No, Hoppie, not all Muslims in the Balkans are Mujhadeen.......especially the 200,000 Muslim Albanians who fled the KLA.......the 100,000 Muslim followers of Fikret Abdic..........and many hundreds of thousands of Muslims who have been terrorized by

the Mujhadeen fanatics which Clinton's Humanitarian Warriors funded, armed, trained, and promoted for the eight long years.

Your great protoge, Muhammand Sacribey spent his high school years in Quadaffi's Libyia

34 posted on 10/11/2001 7:53:56 AM PDT by vooch
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To: vooch
Great, Sherman, we'll put you in the WABAC machine and perhaps you can explain the matter to Arkan.

Pray tell, where did you get your info on Mo Sacribey? I'm under the impression that he came to the US when he was 11 years old.

I guess you could be right, however. Tulane University could have football scouts in Libya looking to hand out scholarships to promising Libyan High Schoolers.

Again, your information sucks, which explains your posts.

35 posted on 10/12/2001 11:38:30 AM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
you seemed to have missede the part about spending his childhood in europe & "north africa"......besides my dear Hoppie, the dirt on Sacirbey is that he spent a lot of time during his high school years in Quadafi's Libyia.

Now, one would hardly expect that salient info to become part of Sacirbey's self written bio. (and talk about obvious tripe I-coulda-gone-to-Harvard-but-went-instead-to-Tulane-to-play-fooball.........you know as well as I do, Harvard in the 1970's had a lavish aid program)

36 posted on 10/12/2001 1:03:50 PM PDT by vooch
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To: vooch
"dirt"

Is that an euphemism for unfounded rumor? If not, back it up.

This is F.R., not your gossip circle.

37 posted on 10/12/2001 1:45:06 PM PDT by Hoplite
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