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Dick Armey claims there is a hi-tech labor shortage
Letter from Dick Armey | October 4, 2001 | Dick Armey

Posted on 10/09/2001 3:15:14 PM PDT by Mini-14

Congressman Dick Armey
9901 Valley Ranch Pkwy. East, Ste. 3050
Irving, TX 75063
972-556-2500

October 4, 2001

Brent Hanson
6001A Orinda Dr., No. 1044
Dallas, Texas 75248-5813

Dear Brent,

        Thank you for taking the time to contact me with your concerns regarding the H1-B non-immigrant visa program.  I apologize for the delay in getting back to you.

        While I understand your concerns, I'm afraid we disagree on this issue.  As you may be aware, H-1B visas are issued to temporary, highly skilled, non-immigrant workers in "specialty occupations" who possess at least a bachelor's degree, or its equivalent.  Furthermore, U.S. employers petitioning for an H1-B worker must certify that they will pay the non-immigrant no less than the prevailing company or occupation wage for that job, and they must complete an extensive application process that includes a $1,000 visa fee for each application.  Additionally, prior to hiring an H1-B worker, the employer, must publicly post a notice at the workplace indicating their decision to apply for these workers.

        Opponents of the H1-B program have raised concerns that increasing the number of H-111B visas would results in fewer high skilled jobs for Americans.  However, research has consistently indicated that there is a growing shortage of high skilled workers in America.  In fact, the Department of Labor (DOL) recently issued a report stating that 1.3 million new high tech jobs will be created in the next 10 years, yet, American colleges and universities are expected to produce only 25 percent of the graduates needed to fill those positions.  In my opinion, the H-1B visa program is a beneficial tool for American businesses and American workers, because it helps keep our economy strong and fosters more free market competition.

        While I am sorry that we do not see eye-to-eye on this issue, I am sure that there are many other issues upon which we do agree.

        Again, thanks for contacting me.  I hope you will continue to keep in touch.

Respectfully yours,
DICK ARMEY
Member of Congress


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I have been laid off from software development positions in the Dallas/Richardson area twice in the last year. I sent a letter to Congressman Armey in which I requested that he discontinue supporting the H1-B program due to the recession.

I will request an appointment to see Dick Armey when he visits the Dallas area. If you have any complaints you want me to forward to Dick Armey regarding the H1-B program, please send them to me at brentahanson@hotmail.com

1 posted on 10/09/2001 3:15:14 PM PDT by Mini-14 (brentahanson@hotmail.com)
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To: Mini-14
I can send him the names of about a thousand boomers who've been summarily booted from the hitech industry they created in favor of the "hindus for half-price" sale. Armey's getting bad information.
2 posted on 10/09/2001 3:20:30 PM PDT by steenkeenbadges
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To: Mini-14
I used to be an account manager for a firm that brought in folks on H-1B visas in information technology. Notice I said "used to." This is not the late nineties in high tech. We just don't need so much help, thankyouverymuch.
3 posted on 10/09/2001 3:21:18 PM PDT by unspun
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To: steenkeenbadges
Armey's getting bad information.

Baloney....he's no fool. He's more likely getting political contributions from companies that sub-contract these workers.

I'd really like to inspect his donor list.

4 posted on 10/09/2001 3:24:05 PM PDT by HennepinPrisoner
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To: Mini-14
Dick aremey is a moron, High Tech industry is in a Depression...
5 posted on 10/09/2001 3:25:30 PM PDT by KQQL
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To: Mini-14
Tech Layoffs Make This the Worst Year Yet for Job Cuts

By Computerworld

Aug 06 2001 11:27 AM PDT

The high-tech sector has accounted for more than a third of the record 983,337 pink slips handed out so far this year.

Job cuts in the U.S., particularly in the technology and manufacturing areas, have reached an all-time high, outplacement firm Challenger, Gray & Christmas said Monday. Since the beginning of the year, the telecommunications, computer and electronics markets have announced a total of 358,375 jobs cuts, compared with the 26,758 cuts announced in 2000, according to the Chicago-based firm.

The company said there have been 175,350 cuts in the telecommunications industry so far in 2001, compared with just 6,848 in 2000; 101,044 cuts in the computer industry since the first of the year, compared with 10,976 last year; and 81,981 cuts in the electronics industry this year, compared with only 8,938 in 2000.

Challenger said the total number of job cuts in all industries for 2001 is 983,337 so far, compared with 613,960 in all of 2000. Challenger said the previous high was 677,795 job cuts, recorded in 1998. Challenger started keeping job-cut statistics in 1993.

"Job cuts tell us as much about the economy's future as they do about the present," John A. Challenger, CEO of Challenger, Gray & Christmas, said in a statement. "Companies are looking at their staffing needs for the balance of 2001, and the numbers do not present a very positive picture. If companies were anticipating a 2001 turnaround, with an increase in demand for goods and services, we would not be witnessing the extraordinary number of job cuts that are taking place this year."

The most worrisome aspect of the job-cut numbers, in terms of serving as an economic barometer, is the fact that job cutting has been heaviest in manufacturing and technology."

According to Challenger, the 205,975 total job cuts announced in July are 65 percent higher than the 124,852 cuts announced in June, and 222 percent higher than the cuts recorded in July 2000.

Here's some ammo.

6 posted on 10/09/2001 3:27:07 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: steenkeenbadges
Have your friends send me e-mails, I would be happy to dump them in his lap.
7 posted on 10/09/2001 3:27:08 PM PDT by Mini-14
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To: Mini-14
He means corporate America wants more Indian Visual Basic programmers willing to live with 10 others in each house.
8 posted on 10/09/2001 3:29:32 PM PDT by jonatron
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To: Mini-14
That stupid form letter you got is months old...maybe years old.
9 posted on 10/09/2001 3:31:40 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: jonatron
"He means corporate America wants more Indian Visual Basic programmers willing to live with 10 others in each house."

Bingo. That's what's really going on.

10 posted on 10/09/2001 3:35:32 PM PDT by vigilo
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To: Mini-14
You are just too demanding.... In order for our US companies to function properly, they must be able to fire you at a moment's notice, cut your pay in half, deport your entire family, and demand that you work 7 days a week....

And if you do not like it.... Contribute tens of thousands of dollars to the Republicans to get it changed...

11 posted on 10/09/2001 3:37:08 PM PDT by Fred
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To: Mini-14
At least it looks like he read your letter and replied to what you wrote. It is a lot better than the form letters I get from my congress-critter where it is clear my letter was never read...
12 posted on 10/09/2001 3:39:53 PM PDT by DrDavid
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To: Mini-14
DICK ARMEY Member of Congress

You gotta love that name and title.

13 posted on 10/09/2001 3:45:39 PM PDT by Random Access
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To: Mini-14
Furthermore, U.S. employers petitioning for an H1-B worker must certify that they will pay the non-immigrant no less than the prevailing company or occupation wage for that job..."

Opponents of the H1-B program have raised concerns that increasing the number of H-111B visas would results in fewer high skilled jobs for Americans. However, research has consistently indicated that there is a growing shortage of high skilled workers in America . In fact, the Department of Labor (DOL) recently issued a report stating that 1.3 million new high tech jobs will be created in the next 10 years, yet, American colleges and universities are expected to produce only 25 percent of the graduates needed to fill those positions.

What a bunch of hog wash. The workers brought in are hired at a much lower wage - the bottom of the scale. It drives wages down for Americans trying to enter into these fields and makes it less attractive for American citizens to go into these fields becasue they can not recoup the cost of the university money they spend - the students in other countries don't pay anywhere near what a U.S. university costs.

Hog wash. Pure Hog wash Armey is speaking. Let the free market in America solve this problem.

14 posted on 10/09/2001 3:46:41 PM PDT by gogov
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To: Mini-14
Tell Dickhead to spend half the energy supporting better education as he spends supporting the ability of non-American citizens to work here and take our jobs, and there would not be a shortage. I work at Xerox PARC, and see this kind of crap every day. He undermines patriotic capitalism. Fewer workers, pay rates go up, current crops of students then play catch-up. Let me know if there's anything I can do...
15 posted on 10/09/2001 3:46:59 PM PDT by Demosthenes
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To: Mini-14
Thank you for exposing Armey for what he is. As my representative here in Carrollton, I wrote him 2 months ago concerning my dismay at his support of continued immigration into this country and that I wanted him to not vote for the extension of 245(i) which allows those who have overstayed their visas the right to pay $1,000 and not go through a background check to become Americans. He basically told me that he disagreed with me, that immigration was not a problem and he would be voting in support of 245(i), which he did. I called him immediately and told him that he didn't have a vote and that his vote was my vote. And that it is 'we the people', not we the politicans. He doesn't care....and if you get his donor list, I surely would be interested.
16 posted on 10/09/2001 3:47:25 PM PDT by LillyDayStar
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To: Fred
"In order for our US companies to function properly, they must be able to fire you at a moment's notice, cut your pay in half, deport your entire family, and demand that you work 7 days a week...."

Deport? That hasn't happened since about 1932. We let anyone, everyone and their families into our country. When they choose to complain rather than kiss the ground that they wanted so badly to land on, I'm all for doing precisely what you're bellyaching about.

Did you speak this way of your own country before you abandoned it for our shining shores? Can you pronounce the word, "ingrate"?

17 posted on 10/09/2001 3:49:21 PM PDT by steenkeenbadges
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To: Mini-14
. However, research has consistently indicated that there is a growing shortage of high skilled workers in America

After Sputnik they wanted more engineers. So they got more engineers. Then in and about 1972 they fired 300,000 engineers and support personnel nationwide when they killed the space program. Perhaps if they were more consistent, they would find more people willing to undertake the strenuous training.

18 posted on 10/09/2001 3:51:37 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: Mini-14
I received the same freakin' letter from him earlier this year in response to a letter I sent him regarding when I got laid off from Nortel Networks in Richardson. I noticed that the majority of people who were laid off from this Canadian company where Americans. I had to pack and leave while Aknod, Mohamed, and Long Dong got to stay and get paid.

Since then I have taken a job here in the Austin area and have Lamar Smith as my Rep. The startup that I work for has laid off 10% of it's workers yesterday, sparing me so far.

Add me to any list of laid off workers who will not take this H1-B visa crap anymore considering that Americans are loosing their jobs while foreigners keep theirs.

19 posted on 10/09/2001 3:52:12 PM PDT by lormand
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To: Mini-14
As you may be aware, H-1B visas are issued to temporary, highly skilled, non-immigrant workers in "specialty occupations" who possess at least a bachelor's degree,

Tell Armey that I work with several H-1B who indeed do have Bachelors degrees and work in Hi-tech fields. Too bad their degrees are in Zoology and Physics and Biology, working in a Mortgage Company. Yes they are ousting Americans from these positions.

20 posted on 10/09/2001 3:53:38 PM PDT by SwankyC
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To: Mini-14
There is definitely a shortage of cheap hi-tech labor.
21 posted on 10/09/2001 3:54:00 PM PDT by gjenkins
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To: gjenkins
DITTO. Shortage is in CHEAP high tech laborers. Not in American well paid high tech laborers. THEY want minimum wage workers for jobs that get $15.00 and up. This drive for CHEAP foreign high tech labor is also keeping wages for American high tech workers low with raises infrequent and piddly when you can get one. Hubby is an Field Technical Rep (electronics trouble shooter) for two way radio systems. His opinion is your opinion.
22 posted on 10/09/2001 4:38:22 PM PDT by GailA
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To: gjenkins
Folks, look: Dick Armey is a RINO (Republican in Name only).

He's actually a libertarian.

THAT'S WHY - I LIKE HIM.

Boo,hoo, hoo, you all. Too bad, if you can't stand a free global labor market. I'm sick & tired of all the labor market protectionists floating around in the U.S., and on Republican web sites, banging the drums for "closed borders." You all sound like a bunch of whiney, Democrat Union malingers. Grow up and -- get competitive. It's an international marketplace, called "Consumer Sovereignty." As long as people want to enter the US to compete and work peacefully, I don't give a dump WHERE they're from. Customers are better off when suppliers - including 'labor' suppliers -- *COMPETE.

And - we can thank public schools and Teachers' Unions, if our own workers can't add & subtract thanks to their fear and stanch political opposition to educational Accountability and Testing Standards (I see it all the time, -- as a community college instructor working with high school "graduates": One student asked me recently, "Which number is larger, .6 or 1.4?" It's absolutely appalling.)

Let immigrants in, to compete, and work. My S&W will take care of those with different "plans" during their stay... Just as it takes care of US citizens, with alternative "ideas" for survival!

Pam, in LA

23 posted on 10/09/2001 4:46:51 PM PDT by 4Liberty
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To: 4Liberty
I'm receiving unemployment benefits right now. I hope you like paying taxes to support me.
24 posted on 10/09/2001 4:57:27 PM PDT by Mini-14
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To: Mini-14
I'm bending over, right now....Ouch! - Thanks.

Not entirely your fault. Thanks to Unions, we have wage-inflexiblity in many sectors. Unemployment follows - and, persists.

Thank you, Unions...

grr.

25 posted on 10/09/2001 5:08:14 PM PDT by 4Liberty
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To: Mini-14
Dick Armey is and always has been and idiot. Idiocy trancends one's choice of political party.

---max

27 posted on 10/09/2001 5:26:03 PM PDT by max61
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To: Mini-14
Why do I think Mr. Armey's opinion would be different if it was lawyers who were being imported?
28 posted on 10/09/2001 5:27:38 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: Mini-14
Further evidence that corporate sponsership of our political representatives is getting completely out of hand. They don't work for us anymore, friends, they work for whoever bought them their political position.
29 posted on 10/09/2001 6:14:00 PM PDT by FreeYourMind
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To: 4Liberty
I am as libertarian as they come. If you think we are talking about free markets in the USA anymore, you are deluded. This is about corporations and their profits, which I don't really have a problem with until the government starts subsidizing them. We are not going to immigrate our way to prosperity.
30 posted on 10/09/2001 6:26:58 PM PDT by gjenkins
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