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Clinton and the Taliban
The Conservative Majority ^ | Oct. 18, 2001 | Republican_Strategist

Posted on 10/18/2001 11:30:13 PM PDT by Republican_Strategist

Now I wanted to bring something to your attention something that I think hasn’t received any real coverage by the media. I don’t want to sound too presumptuous, but it would seem that Bill Clinton authorized and created the terrorist Taliban group and backed them from 1994 to 1997. It seems he and his administration had a sympathetic view of the Taliban seizing power in Afghanistan.

A certain book coincidentally called ‘Taliban’ may have some information on the Clinton administration’s support of the Taliban. The author is one Ahmed Rashid. The primary source was Dana Rohrabacher, a representative and a republican in California has been very vocal about this very thing and has been critical of this long before the Sept. 11th attacks.

According to Rohrabacher, the Clinton administration played a role in creating the Taliban by giving a ‘green light’ to Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and other gulf states to fund, direct, and organize the Taliban. Rohrabacher said at one point on the house floor in a Sept. 17th [1999] speech that the Clinton administration promised Pakistan and Saudi Arabia that it wouldn’t overthrow the Taliban. The UPI reported it.

Also he made all to familiar accusations during the past eight years. He accused a department; the state department to be exact, of key withholding documents that would show the Clinton administration supported the terrorist Taliban movement and its seizure of power in Afghanistan. The official he blamed specifically was assistant secretary at that time, one Karl Inderfurth.

Furthermore it seems one Robin Raphel, Clinton’s assistant secretary of state for south Asia affairs until mid-1997, is believed to be instrumental in the rise of the Taliban. She lived in Pakistan for a number of years and her husband was U.S. ambassador to that country. He was killed in a bombing that also removed a Pakistani dictator.

One report suggested that several Islamic states expressed the belief that Raphel and other U.S. officials along with Afghans in the U.S. were on the payroll of Unocal’s payroll. They cite that she provided a fiery defense of Unocal and especially the Taliban in negotiations with the Afghanistan government.

During such an encounter, Raphel's words -- in effect asking the government to "give it up" -- were so insulting that Ahmad Shah Masood, Afghanistan's two-decade national resistance leader, threw down his trademark pakol cap, pointed to it and said, "I will continue to defend Afghanistan even if I control no more land than the size of this cap!"

It seems this teeth-shattering reply and unexpected blow to Raphel was the last straw. According to Afghan government intelligence sources, soon after this heated negotiation session the Taliban -- newly supplied with night-vision instruments, satellite maps, and other sophisticated gear -- aided by hundreds of Arab militants, Pakistani extremists and camouflaged Pakistan Army regulars stormed into Jalalabad and then into the Afghan capital.

Suffice it to say that during both terms in office, Clinton and his State Department were pulling for a Taliban military victory. Clinton administration jubilation at such a victory was mainly rooted in its support of oil and gas pipelines. Dana Rohrabacher in his 19 May 2000 interview with Omaid Weekly accused the Clinton administration of providing covert support to the Taliban.

Those people who are just infatuated with Clinton know they can’t defend such a thing and with that they merely seek to counter balance it with Reagan’s support of Afghan fighters in their fight with the Soviets. If anything they in some way feel they can balance a Clinton failure with a brilliant Reagan success. Reagan took an action that crippled our worst enemy, the Soviet Union, and that played a crucial role in the downfall of the Soviet Union.

As for Bin Laden, he worked closely with Pakistani military officials and Saudi intelligence officials, but he did not have a relationship with the Central Intelligence Agency, which also supported the Afghan resistance. Milt Bearden, the CIA station chief in Pakistan from 1986 to 1989, denied cooperating with bin Laden, but he knew of his efforts. Bin Laden was there using his family’s 5 billion dollar fortune and construction business.

It seems Bin Laden served primarily as a fund-raiser and recruiter who publicized the jihad and helped transport Arab volunteers to Afghanistan. He became more involved in the logistics of supporting the jihad, bringing earth-moving equipment from his family’s construction company to carve out roads and bunkers in the rugged terrain of eastern Afghanistan along the border with Pakistan. It is important to point out he became a terrorist threat during the Clinton administration, which missed at least to key opportunities to get him.

As for the stinger missiles we supplied to Afghanistan, the U.S. had a buyback program. It was estimated that we supplied them with over a thousand. Out of that we managed to by some 450 of them, plus you have to minus the ones used and it would seem that there were very few left. Then factoring in time and deterioration, it would seem unlikely that there are any operable stingers left supplied by the U.S.

So as we now began to introduce troops in Afghanistan, we must be keenly aware of the Clinton administration’s support of the terrorist Taliban, we must be aware of the Clinton administration’s failure to capture or ‘take out’ Bin Laden on two occasions, and we must stand for people deflecting from these facts by dredging up Reagan’s overwhelming success in the region.


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1 posted on 10/18/2001 11:30:14 PM PDT by Republican_Strategist
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I really pray for the day that clinton is charged with treason! Life in a taliban prison sounds good to me....i'm sure prisoners over there get no t.v., radio, weight lifting, books, magazines. Can you imagine...clinton in a cell with 6 to 8 other unwashed bodies, with no human rights for the rest of his life???????
2 posted on 10/18/2001 11:38:42 PM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: Republican_Strategist
Great find.

Clinton it is obvious, other than depositing love juice in the Oval office sink,
spent the majority of his time in office aiding and abetting foriegn dictators.
He makes look Benedict Arnold look like a Congressional Medal of Honor winner.

3 posted on 10/18/2001 11:55:52 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Republican_Strategist
Clinton could care less about America. 9/11 is his legacy. He took his own rope-a-dope strategy of survival and made it into American foreign policy.

Clinton was a troubled child and his disturbed personality determined all of his actions. He only cared about one thing, his own power. To him the game was "get in office and stay in office". Things like foreign policy were only a means to that end.

It is sad that the tactics that were so effective in bringing and keeping an adulterous cokehead liar in office turned out to be the "rope-a-dope" but that was his brilliantly effective method of getting and keeping power: "Let them get tired from hitting me."

So when he committed adultery, it wasn't like "no, never" for very long, from fairly early on Hillary and Bill deflated their opponents with "yup, we did it" and throughout his corrupt political career he had a formulaic "Ah was wrong, can y'all forgive me" approach that took the steam out of his opponent.

Any other politician at any level in any country in the world would have been shamed out of office for things Clinton would freely admit. He was like "here I am, I'm your punching bag."

And he brought that same method to US foreign policy: "here we are, we're your punching bag."

Such a devious approach that can keep a President in office for 8 years will not provide such fine results for a country: we saw the results of Clinton's policies very clearly on 9/11.

4 posted on 10/19/2001 12:27:04 AM PDT by EaglesUpForever
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5 posted on 10/19/2001 12:33:10 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Republican_Strategist
Suffice it to say that during both terms in office, Clinton and his State Department were pulling for a Taliban military victory. Clinton administration jubilation at such a victory was mainly rooted in its support of oil and gas pipelines.

It was control of the drugs, the drug routes, and money lines. It was pure filthy greed which had nothing to do with anything for this country, but plenty to do with lining the pockets of the criminalistas. Screwing with the stock market was supposed to cover it all up. They expected Gore to win election. He didn't. Go to Plan B.
Plan B couldn't be completed because none of them gave Bush credit for having any brains. He probably saved more lives on September 11 than anyone will ever know.
Do you put it past any of them?
Everywhere there is Islamic radicalism and Jihad, there is a poppy or coca field not too far away. That is why Bin Laden's reach has so many tentacles, and that is why clinton disappeared right before every major catastrophe heaped on Americans by the Islamic fundies every time, all the time...including THIS time. And that is why Jesse the bagman got to travel to every country clinton shook down. He was a courier, the special ambassador from hell.
When Bush pulled the PROMIS software, he rendered the bastards blind. The clinton state department has been so inundated with disinformation, they stay permanently seasick. Nothing they have done has deterred Bush in anything he has planned. And he has planned to bring clinton down. Period. With all of his friends.
The blown up African embassies were to cover the thefts of millions of dollars. Kosovo was for the minerals and metals, AND the drug route. Columbia is for the gems and metals and the Cocaine. Sudan was to warn the Sudanese government to stay OUT of Bin Laden's business. The Cole was a bribe to Mubarak. And Israel was supposed to be shut off as the tech wonder of the Near East because they had the goods on clinton but couldn't use it...until now. Or do you think that Netanyahu's sudden closeness to GW is simple coincidence?
Yep. I know. What *proof* do I have? My question would be, what more proof do you need? There has been an awful lot of talk about good and evil here lately. Is there anybody here at all who doesn't believe the clintons are pure evil?
One more thing. I don't think that clinton was necessarily the brains behind any of this...or Bin Laden either, for that matter. I DO think this is the first REAL opportunity we have had to get behind the smoke and mirrors because the man in the White House is righteous. Not simply religiously righteous. Just GOOD to the marrow.

6 posted on 10/19/2001 12:45:53 AM PDT by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
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To: Slyfox
Hey, Clinton had his faults. But US has always cozied up to some pretty nasty guys. Wasn't it Johnson who said of a dictator " he may be an SOB but he's OUR SOB"

Clinton didn't do it all on his own. Why were the Feds looking the other way. How come the Germans missed out on Atta although they delivered Salim over 3 years ago?

Why did this junior official hand out the licences for haz-chem drivers?

Why did Bomber Blair let out 400 terrorists, bombers, murderers, torturers and assorted psychopaths from prison and give IRA terrorists Ministerial jobs?

Everyone knows that drugs fund the IRA / UVF, IRA terrorists appear in Colombia teaching FARC how to terrorise (as if they need help), does the UK do anything?No.

The egyptians wanted UK to extradite a terrorist, Blair refuses, The French reasonably call it LOndonistas, This Algerian pilot Lotfi Riaiss who helped train Atta and the others is in custody, any reasonable government would stick him on a plane to the US pronto. They say it will take 3 years and £3mn of public money beforte he goes. I'll take any bet you want he never gets to the land of the free and the home of the brave.

I don't hold any brief for the Arkansaw crook, or his hideous wife, but he didn't do it alone.

7 posted on 10/19/2001 1:36:48 AM PDT by unending thunder
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I don't have any of the details on this, but I remember that a high level Taliban delegation vistited the Houston area some 4-6 years ago if memory serves. It had something to do with oil exploration and or pipelines and I believe any future cooperation just fell apart - at least that is what I was led to believe. Could be wrong.

BTW, welcome to FR.

8 posted on 10/19/2001 2:50:38 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Jewels1091
"I really pray for the day that clinton is charged with treason!" ... don't hold your breath. His reward will come later.
9 posted on 10/19/2001 3:01:34 AM PDT by Check6
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To: doug from upland
Rohrbacher has been muzzled during the Clinton regime on this tie-in as was mentioned in 1999.
10 posted on 10/19/2001 3:08:38 AM PDT by flamefront
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To: unending thunder
The subject here was about Clinton cozying up to the Taliban. Would you agree or disagree that Clinton is a snake?
11 posted on 10/19/2001 6:52:59 AM PDT by Slyfox
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Any thoughts--facts(where the money...bullets came from) about Vince Foster??
13 posted on 10/19/2001 7:05:05 AM PDT by f.Christian
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I'm sorry, I don't understand your question. Are you asking me if I personally know?
14 posted on 10/19/2001 7:08:03 AM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Republican_Strategist
Unfortunatly for the citizens of the USA and those who died on 9/11, the clinton policies are finally coming home to roost. I pray that someone will finally look at the clintons for what they are, traitors and bring them to justice. It will take opening the eyes of the American public but worth it in the long run. The two traitors should be in jail where they belong.
15 posted on 10/19/2001 7:19:19 AM PDT by Lucky2
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To: flamefront
Thanks for this heads up. Rohrabacher was on a talk show yesterday but on only got to hear a little of it. I think it was on Hewitt.
16 posted on 10/19/2001 7:20:39 AM PDT by doug from upland
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To: Slyfox
Osama bin laden money---mossad bullet = ft.marcy park!
17 posted on 10/19/2001 7:25:42 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: flamefront
"Rohrbacher has been muzzled during the Clinton regime on this tie-in as was mentioned in 1999."

And he [Rohrbacher] has much much more info than is revealed .

The right time, and the right place will see the Clinton's long twisting fuse burn right down to the explosion which will expose them for the white trash and grifters that they are...

so much for his "legacy"-kapoot.

18 posted on 10/19/2001 7:33:20 AM PDT by prognostigaator
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To: Republican_Strategist
According to Rohrabacher, the Clinton administration played a role in creating the Taliban by giving a ‘green light’ to Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and other gulf states to fund, direct, and organize the Taliban. Rohrabacher said at one point on the house floor in a Sept. 17th [1999] speech that the Clinton administration promised Pakistan and Saudi Arabia that it wouldn’t overthrow the Taliban. The UPI reported it.

Also he made all to familiar accusations during the past eight years. He accused a department; the state department to be exact, of key withholding documents that would show the Clinton administration supported the terrorist Taliban movement and its seizure of power in Afghanistan. The official he blamed specifically was assistant secretary at that time, one Karl Inderfurth.

Thanks for the post. The archives are unavailable, so I couldn't find the original post of the UPI article, but it is copied in reply #36 on this thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39ef55d04ce3.htm

GOP House member alleges policy coverup - US support of Taliban militia in Afghanistan ?

Crime/Corruption News Keywords: "WEASEL WORDS"

Source: UPI

Published: Wednesday, 20 October 1999 22:35 (GMT) Author: JOE WARMINSKY

Posted on 10/20/1999 19:36:10 PDT by Vitolins

WASHINGTON, Oct. 20 (UPI) - Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., ripped into Assistant Secretary of State Karl Inderfurth at a House hearing on Wednesday, accusing the State Department of withholding key documents he said would show that the United States had supported the ruling Taliban militia in Afghanistan.

Rohrabacher said Republicans had asked Secretary of State Madeleine Albright for Taliban-related documents from the State Department last year, but only a few had been delivered.

"The lack of courage and the incomprehensible policies of the Clinton administration (have) created a crisis in Central Asia where there was none," Rohrabacher said at a House International Relations Committee where Inderfurth testified on Wednesday.

"As far as I'm concerned, it's a shameful record, and the coverup of the information for us to determine what that policy was is even more shameful," the congressman added.

Inderfurth, in response, said the State Department has sent three shipments of documents, including classified information, to Rohrabacher and is planning four overall.

Inderfurth said he had reviewed the documents, and "they offer absolutely no support for (Rohrabacher's) contention that the U.S. government has now or in the past had a covert policy of support for the Taliban."

Later in the hearing, Rohrabacher shouted at Inderfurth and accused him of using "weasel words" after Inderfurth denied having seen any documents that would indicate the Clinton administration had backed the Taliban, which controls about 90 percent of Afghanistan.

36 Posted on 10/19/2000 17:30:36 PDT by OKCSubmariner


19 posted on 10/19/2001 7:34:22 AM PDT by Dixie Mom
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also see: http://www.alamo-girl.com/0113.htm

http://www.dso.com Sources 9/21/99 Dr Clifford Kiracofe "...The Clinton administration for months has refused to turn over to Congress foreign policy documents that implicate it in the Taliban reign of terror in Afghanistan, Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA), told SOURCES. A number of members of the U.S. House of Representatives believe the Clinton Administration played a key role in creating the Taliban by giving a "green light" to Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States to organize, fund and direct the terrorist movement that has now taken control of Afghanistan, he said. "We have tried for a year and a half to obtain documents on our Afghan policy," Rohrabacher told SOURCES in an exclusive interview Friday. Rohrabacher says he has evidence the Clinton administration encouraged and approved the creation of the terrorist Taliban movement. Certain key officials in Middle Eastern countries have confirmed the administration's role in direct conversations with him. He also explained he has additional evidence from a number of confidential sources close to the matter. Meanwhile, Rohrabacher believes the State Department is stonewalling his requests for information on its policy toward the Taliban because administration officials fear the disclosure of facts to Congress would confirm a U.S. role in the operation involving the fundamentalist Islamic movement. Nonetheless, Rohrabacher, who is a member of the International Relations Committee, is pressing on with his requests for documentation of U.S. policy. "Our Chairman, Congressman Gilman, and others are supportive," he told SOURCES. The Taliban regime in Afghanistan is now an "epicenter" of international terrorism, Rohrabacher told SOURCES. A key aide in the Reagan White House and a journalist by profession, Rohrabacher said he saw Osama bin Laden's camp during a secret visit to Afghanistan in 1988. Rohrabacher has closely followed Afghan affairs for over a decade. Rohrabacher confirmed recent SOURCES reports regarding the formation of the Taliban by the Pakistani Interior Ministry and Inter-Services-Intelligence organization (ISI). Rohrabacher said there is no question Saudi Arabia and other Gulf States were brought in to finance the operation....."

UPI 10/20/99 Joe Warminsky "....Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., ripped into Assistant Secretary of State Karl Inderfurth at a House hearing on Wednesday, accusing the State Department of withholding key documents he said would show that the United States had supported the ruling Taliban militia in Afghanistan. Rohrabacher said Republicans had asked Secretary of State Madeleine Albright for Taliban-related documents from the State Department last year, but only a few had been delivered. "The lack of courage and the incomprehensible policies of the Clinton administration (have) created a crisis in Central Asia where there was none," Rohrabacher said at a House International Relations Committee where Inderfurth testified on Wednesday.....Later in the hearing, Rohrabacher shouted at Inderfurth and accused him of using "weasel words" after Inderfurth denied having seen any documents that would indicate the Clinton administration had backed the Taliban, which controls about 90 percent of Afghanistan...."


20 posted on 10/19/2001 7:35:23 AM PDT by Dixie Mom
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