Skip to comments.Did bin Laden buy bioterror? 1999 testimony says he did
Posted on 10/21/2001 6:07:14 AM PDT by sarcasmEdited on 04/13/2004 2:38:54 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Evidence in an Egyptian terrorism trial two years ago included claims that Osama bin Laden already had dangerous biological agents in his arsenal.
Moreover, a ranking terrorist affiliated with bin Laden told a journalist during that trial that the Saudi-born financier of terror and his top aide, Islamic Jihad leader Dr. Ayman al-Zawahiri, had purchased biological and chemical agents and drawn up a list of 100 U.S. and Israeli targets on which to unleash them.
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I hope someone is closely watching the reservoirs that supply NYC's water.
How we use them is up to us.
But if you act now, we'll even throw in some new, yes I said new, tactical neutron weapons at absolutely no charge. Delivered right to your door (or cave entrance).(Warning: Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.)
During a 1999 trial in Egypt, evidence was introduced that terrorists associated with Islamic Jihad and al-Qaeda "claimed to have made agreements to buy 'samples of anthrax' from a factory in Southeast Asia and a culture of the paralyzing botulinum bacteria from a lab in the Czech Republic for $7,500. "
Where would this factory in Southeast Asia be? Any clues?
Perhaps "Southeast Asia" is Thailand, or a mistake for Pakistan. Whatever happened with that Yememi biochemist caught there...?
Your analysis of bin Laden is good.
However I fail to see why you think Saddam is such a genius.
Name one clever thing Saddam ever did.
(Oh, wait. He invaded Iran. He invaded Kuwait.
You're right, brilliant strategist!)
Geographically, the region would presumably encompass Burma, Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Viet Nam, Malaya and Singapore.
At a stretch, perhaps Indonesia, Borneo, Sarawak, Taiwan, The Philippines...and China.
There are several suspicious locations on the list, but nobody stands out.
On second thought, I wonder if the supplier was located in Southeast Asia and the "factory" elsewhere.
Singapore, Hong Kong and, hmmmm, Macao are all likely locations for the "dealers".
The list was thinking out loud. And identifying the area for other readers.
What do you think of a middleman in Singapore, Hong Kong or Macao, with the factory located elsewhere?
I have no speculation whatsoever on any particular country, since I've heard nothing else relating to that, and meeting places can be anywhere. The anthrax could actually have been produced somewhere else, as you suggest.
Well, he's still running Iraq, while GHWB was given the boot by the voters within a few months of winning the Gulf War. He won the Iran-Iraq war. He's still alive after decades in power, while countless would-be opponents have been gassed, shot by firing squad, hung in public squares until their necks are a foot long, or tortured to death. He still manages to maintain a personal fortune of $7 billion and multiple palaces, while his people starve. He's got Colin Powell running around the Arab world, kowtowing to tin-pot dictators to try and stave off World War III. He pulled off an end run around our entire national security apparatus, destroying the WTC and killing 3,000 people using a handful of agents armed with nothing more than box cutters. He easily out-maneuvered Clinton in order to kick out the UNSCOM weapons inspectors, and he has neutralized are strategic nuclear deterrent in one surprise move.
Inasmuch as Hitler ended up taking his own life in a bunker after starting a war which killed 50 million people, I suppose we could say Hitler was not, on balance, clever, despite the fact that he managed to turn himself from a street person to absolute ruler of the most powerful nation in Europe in less than twenty years, in spite of the fact that he conquered the whole continent in less than a year. Perhaps, in the long run, we'll be able to pass the same final judgment on Saddam Hussein. Somehow, I don't find that thought much of a comfort, however.
Good question. I've heard nothing further about him.
Are you sure that that doesn't also apply to Saddam Hussein?
What did he win? I was under the impression that the war was more or less a stalemate.
Regarding the Egyptian anthrax story, I'm looking - it may be misreportage, maybe influenced by this story, which is still available, about a trial in 1999 in Egypt, and the revelations there. Still looking...
Well, hopefully a keen eye would notice suspicious tanker trucks lining up at the reserviors, since it would take an awful lot of bad stuff to effect an entire water system.
If terrorists were smart, they'd make sure to contaminate specific parts of the water system.
Yes, of course. But it would still take large quantities of just about any substance (including human sewage or cattle-farm runoff) to be effective.
Perhaps they are pretty smart
LAS VEGAS Before Nine-Eleven, terrorists discussed recruiting treatment plant workers to poison water supplies in major urban areas.
That's according to a federal bulletin sent out yesterday to law enforcement and water agencies nationwide.
The Las Vegas Review-Journal quotes the four-page document as detailing discussions by unnamed terrorists who had been under government surveillance. [snip]
"Terrorists thought it would be futile to attempt to directly poison a large water reservoir because of the dilution factor," the bulletin states. "Rather, they focused on the possibility of poisoning the water during the water treatment process."
Terrorists spoke about inserting an unnamed poison into water during the chlorination process. "To accomplish this objective, they discussed recruiting insiders to work with them," it reads.
My main contention is that people are afraid that our reservoirs are in great danger. As we both point out, it's not that simple.