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Should Conservatives Support Rudeness? Why booing Senator Clinton is beneath us.
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Posted on 10/23/2001 1:51:57 PM PDT by watsonfellow

First of all, to prevent the flamings, I should say that I am a strong conservative, and my number one issue is the life issue and so I am not at all a supporter of the Clintons etc.

That being said, I thought it the height of rudeness for these firemen and policemen to boo and yell at the Senator this weekend. It lacked dignity and class. I thought we conservatives were supposed to stand for such things, or perhaps this is just what we say, but do not practice.

I wonder what Burke et al would have said about this conservative embrace of very questionable manners.

The policemen and firemen should have just done nothing when she appeared on stage, no clapping, no booing, the silence would have expressed the same thing, but in a much more dignified way.


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To: BCrago66
If you click on this guy's name, you will find a pompous weenie who tells us that he is "traipsing about Europe presently."

I discovered his bio on Sunday when he was bombastically calling me a fascist and socialist for wanting crop dusters to be monitored closely. What a blowhard. In words of the type he would use, I find his rhetoric to be oleaginously faux erudition.
In other words, he's a smarmy intellectual phony.

101 posted on 10/23/2001 2:14:48 PM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: SocialMeltdown
Well, they booed Bob Dylan when he went electric. If it's good enough for Bob, it's good enough for Hil.

BTW, you should hear the boos our Republican congressman gets in the 4th of July parade.

102 posted on 10/23/2001 2:14:54 PM PDT by DodgeDart
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To: watsonfellow
First of all I have to say that just being recent graduate of college does not give you a degree in life. In order to understand these people's distain for the Clintons I think you need a bit more life's experience. Shame on you for trying to scold a human reaction to a very distasteful situation. Anyone who doesn't boo when they see Hitlery trying to climb on the backs of victims to benefit herself should have their head examined. Books and degrees don't give you all of the answers of life.
103 posted on 10/23/2001 2:14:59 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross
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To: watsonfellow
It lacked dignity and class.

Nonsense. A big part of the "conservatives" problem for YEARS is that we think we can just use logic with no emotion. Doesn't work. And the left has CAPITALIZED on the emotion card.

Besides, what kind of dignity and class SHOULD we give to a person who a) hates this country and all that it stands for, and b) has committed probably hundreds of illegal acts, possibly including many murders, for her own personal gain?

104 posted on 10/23/2001 2:15:09 PM PDT by Jefferson Adams
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To: watsonfellow
Hillary is beneath us.
105 posted on 10/23/2001 2:15:38 PM PDT by Richard Axtell
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
What drives me crazy is that it has taken this horror to make people look at her, and him in a greater than superficial manner. The truth was there for all to see.....if only they would have looked...

Mike

106 posted on 10/23/2001 2:15:50 PM PDT by MichaelP
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To: watsonfellow
on second thought the cops should of arrested her for the murder of 7000 people. In silence.
107 posted on 10/23/2001 2:15:58 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: watsonfellow
Watching her smug arrogance the last 8 years, I must say I thoroughly enjoyed the loud boos she received and so richly deserved. No one on this forum could be accused of having less class than the Clintons. Not possible. I only wish she had talked longer so that the sound-bites were more sustained than 20 seconds.
108 posted on 10/23/2001 2:15:58 PM PDT by duffi
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To: watsonfellow
The policemen and firemen should have just done nothing when she appeared on stage, no clapping, no booing, the silence would have expressed the same thing, but in a much more dignified way.

No. Silence would have been spun by Hillary's enablers as being a sign of respect -- "those policemen and firemen love Hillary soooo much, they got all quiet to listen to her speak." It's pretty hard to spin booing.

109 posted on 10/23/2001 2:15:59 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: connectthedots
And some have said if it weren't for Papa Bush and his Gulf War errors as well as his middle eastern alliances, September 11 never would have happened. Neither viewpoint is 100% right nor 100% wrong
110 posted on 10/23/2001 2:16:07 PM PDT by Eowyn-of-Rohan
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To: watsonfellow
Since the media, for the most part, has done NOTHING to expose the Clinton's and DNC for what they are (criminals) it is incumbent upon us to show our displeasure at EVERY opportunity. Then, when the media hides our displeasure, as they did in this case, it demonstrates their complicity in the criminal activities of the DNC and Clintons. As far as I'm concerned, booing is an EXCELLENT non-violent means of civil disobedience. And YES, Hillary was involved in the death of Vince Foster (one more dirty little secret that the mainstream media has covered up from day one).
111 posted on 10/23/2001 2:16:16 PM PDT by BeAChooser
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To: Media2Powerful
Not really:
"Then there was her petulant performance during President Bush's speech to Congress a month ago. He's talking courage, endurance, patience, love. She's grimacing, rolling her eyes, chatting away, clapping stingily, as if it hurt. "

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/554516/posts?page=192

112 posted on 10/23/2001 2:16:43 PM PDT by Curly007
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To: NYCVirago
Beer and silence don't mix.
114 posted on 10/23/2001 2:17:00 PM PDT by solon_where_r_u
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To: yall
It actually matched the dignity and class (or lack thereof) of the Clintons. It was a long time coming and well earned.

Rudeness has its appropriate season. This was especially so.

115 posted on 10/23/2001 2:17:02 PM PDT by Windshark
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To: watsonfellow
Democrats must be stopped. They WILL DESTROY THIS NATION.

The ceaseless lying, arrogance, perversion, and corruption they encourage are eating away at the moral fiber of this country like a cancer.

Always EXPOSE DEMOCRATS AS SOCIALISTS!.

Never miss an oppurtunity to ask a Democrat if he is a card carying socialist.Always refer to democraps as "leftists", and inquire why their parties symbol is a jackass.

If a Democrap is being rude and obnoxious to you, BE RUDER AND MORE OBNOXIOUS back.

Always hate Dumbocrats.Democrats are STUPID. Democrats are EVIL. EXPOSE THE LEFT. DON"T LET THEM HIDE!

116 posted on 10/23/2001 2:17:29 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: watsonfellow
No, they did just what they should have done. Scream, yell and boo her off the stage. Heroes don't have to be PC.
118 posted on 10/23/2001 2:17:53 PM PDT by kassie
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To: watsonfellow
With all due respect, this vanity is silly, and wrong.

Forget fellow conservatives for a moment. Remember the sheeple. Our so-called fellow citizens who'd vote for Vlad the Impaler for president, if the mass media tells them that (a) Vlad is the candidate 'everyone' prefers, so get with the program, and (b)only a racistsexistmisogynistzenophobicrednecktrailertrashbigot would not want Vlad to be elected . The media loves to "build consensus" that way...Look at WJC. The press knew the man is filth, but they concealed all the scandals about him as best they could, and downplayed what they could not conceal. Why? because they thought he felt the way most of them feel (Not think. Feel) about affirmative action, abortion, and a few other liberal obsessions. So the sheep elected that thing twice, even when it became known that even the media was calling WJC's female supporters the "wet panty" vote, revealing their contempt for them. And the end result of the media's desire to foist liberal politicians on the public in the guise of moderates? A traitor in the WH , who sold military and other vital screts to the Chinese, and no doubt many others.

Every time Hitlery is booed...every time she is freeped, and her misdeeds are presented to a public which will not hear of them any way save through public protests (Look how the media is concealing her reception. Never mind serious scandals), every time the growing contempt for her is made visible, it makes it a little harder for the DNC and their supporters in the mass media (80% of them at least) to make that vile sow a viable candidate, or to fool the sheep into thinking she's a positive female role model, or whatever guff it is that they swallow.

What's more, anyone who's read her junk or listened to certain remarks she's made knows that HRC thinks of most people as stupid, worthless things beneath her, who need to be protected and manipulated by an all wise, all powerful elite. And she thinks most of her fellow Americans like her, like her plans for our future, don't care if she destroys the EC-She needs, and deserves, to have her nose rubbed in our contempt and loathing.

119 posted on 10/23/2001 2:18:47 PM PDT by kaylar
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To: watsonfellow
They should have booed her right off that stage. Free expression, and a very appropriate reaction to the Clintons, whose corrupt regime has done far more damage to this country than we could possibly do to them with such legitimate reaction.

And the boos should be followed up by impeachment for Hitlery, lawsuits against Bill for the damage he did to this country such as the events of 9/11.

120 posted on 10/23/2001 2:18:48 PM PDT by EaglesUpForever
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To: watsonfellow
I can appreciate your appeal for better manners, they are always in short supply, however hillary deserves nothing less, and if I was in that crowd I would have booed until I was blue in the face!
121 posted on 10/23/2001 2:18:53 PM PDT by Topaz
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To: watsonfellow
While I agree with fact that she is an elected Senator from the state of New York and must be accorded respect, is a former First Lady who has spent eight years in the White House, as well as the Arkansas Governor's mansion and has of late seemed to be supportive of our President, I must add that,in my humble opinion, she never does anything unless it directly benefits her. This portrays her as a hypocrite. She has aided an abetted a felon, has, as you agree, been party to a corrupt administration and has thrust herself into New York politics where she is an outsider and undeserving of any special treatment. This is New Yawk, baby...take the heat or get lost.
123 posted on 10/23/2001 2:19:11 PM PDT by stanz
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To: watsonfellow
She should be glad "boos" are all she was hit with. In Brazil I understand when they don't like someone on stage they throw (pardon my French) $hit. And lots of it!!!! Entirely appropriate in this situation I would say!!!!!
124 posted on 10/23/2001 2:19:40 PM PDT by shellylet
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To: watsonfellow
stupid conclusion.....ever hear about the jawbone of an ass ?....there are times to fight back even as the crow crows three times.....
125 posted on 10/23/2001 2:19:55 PM PDT by cactusSharp
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To: watsonfellow
What do you mean, "...when we do it"? When "we" do what? Who said the cops and firemen were "conservative"? Do you know them all?

You're just a school yard contrarian. A stupid post on a stupid thread.

126 posted on 10/23/2001 2:20:16 PM PDT by Deb
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To: b4its2late
REPLY OF THE DAY: "Booing her was polite"

YOU are so RIGHT!

127 posted on 10/23/2001 2:20:38 PM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: watsonfellow
OK, Mr. Manners, what makes you even think for a second that simply "Booing" the bitch who sold out her country for votes by pardoning 3 convicted Puerto Rican terrorists, is rude? I can't begin to put in writing on an open forum what the crowds reaction to Hillary should have been!

sw

128 posted on 10/23/2001 2:20:39 PM PDT by spectre
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To: watsonfellow
we get mad when they boo ours because ours don't deserve it and their's usually do desrve it (They make up lies to say about us, we tell the truth about them - the truth is bad enough!)

- And she is to be categorized as the enemy every bit as much as Osama , her methods are just different. And for what ii is worth, Osammy claims to do this for ALLAH, Hitlery just does it for her own power.

And on the subject of rude, it was rude of her to support actions that got people killed, either through terror or through Fosterization and Clintoncide.

It was rude for her to not boo the President during one of the most important speeches she will ever witness - yes, she should have booed, instead of sitting there like a lying, traitorous, treasonous disapproving bit*h that she is.Then we would know her actual feeling of contempt for Bush success and for the USA

I feel no pity, only contempt for those that pretend such good and intend such evil - prosecute all Clintons,,,,,,,

And it was rude of her to ignore Juanita's accusations of rape!!!!

129 posted on 10/23/2001 2:21:14 PM PDT by bobono
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To: watsonfellow
On third thought your post sounds like one of many I have read at the democrat undergroud and at Hillarys web site. In fact here are a few.

Yes, a real shame... Hillary was treated so badly at a time when we are supposed to be united, and trying to heal wounds. It ruined the whole show! It cast a big black shadow over the real meaning of coming together to help others. Hillary had as much right to be there as any other politician - she is a New York senator. She's our senator!!! It's unfortunate too that not a single entertainer or politician present came forward to speak out against it. It would have gone a long way to show some real leadership if someone like the mayor (for instance) had said something in Hillary's favor.

and here

The idiots who booed Senator Clinton wish they had daughters who could grow up to be half as intelligent as she is. Most of them were drunken moron sheep. Yes, this includes the firefighters and policeman who are our new "heroes." These people are not representative of what the majority of people think of this fine lady.

She is an asset to our country and it's about time people realized it. There is no excuse for ignorance.

Any comments ...email me personally.

Rick Samgeyser@cfl.rr.com

130 posted on 10/23/2001 2:21:28 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: watsonfellow
Oh, I forgot to say, "Lighten up, Francis." Boooooo!

*continuing his undignified Italian upbringing since the early seventies*

132 posted on 10/23/2001 2:21:44 PM PDT by Skel
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To: NYC GOP Chick
This Watsonfellow sure sounds a lot like one Quinn Biminy.
133 posted on 10/23/2001 2:21:52 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: EggsAckley
No, I think you are wrong. We have indeed tangled in the past, but I do not recall posting a reply about Crop Dusters......I think you have me confused with someone else. I will do a self-search however, as I could be wrong, but frankly I would feel no need to get into a debate about crop dusters.... <p
134 posted on 10/23/2001 2:21:54 PM PDT by watsonfellow
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To: watsonfellow
As soon as you go to ground zero and dig for dead bodies, and body parts, or make an appearence at one of the NUMEROUS funerals for NY's Bravest and NY Finest, you're opinion as to how these men should have reacted to hillary! trying to grab some more headlines might mean something.

Did you know that the NY Post has had a daily column ever since 9/11 titled, "Today's Funerals", and that the funerals listed are mainly for NY firefighters? These men have been attending most of these funerals.

And you're so shallow as to be concerned with politeness.

135 posted on 10/23/2001 2:22:07 PM PDT by kattracks
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To: watsonfellow
...she is not the enemy (although she may be a political opponent).

You haven't been paying very close attention, have you?

136 posted on 10/23/2001 2:22:13 PM PDT by Sloth
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To: watsonfellow
The Democrats depend on us thinking behavior like this is "beneath us." They use this against us over and over and over again.

Start with the hypocrisy and family values issue. The Democrats say that it is more damning when Republicans get caught because they run on a platform of family values, meaning Democrats can get away with anything because they don't pass themselves off as being virtuous.

You would think that a Conservative, by definition, would be loathe to make a fuss over something because their personality is, well, conservative. They would tend to not speak ill of others, they would be polite and wait their turn, etc. The Democrats, therefore, make wild accusations, distort the truth, and try to embarrass their opponents at every turn. They know that the conservative would be hard-pressed to retaliate in kind.

So, I think it is damned time that someone booed back. Maybe they'll even be riled up enough to go out and vote next time!

-PJ

138 posted on 10/23/2001 2:22:57 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too
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To: watsonfellow
Lest America ever forget why The Nameless One, W(B)-97, and all their enablers should be hectored, hounded, and harried into silence, until "clintonese is only spoken in Hell," look here:

The Cost of Life (Clinton/Gore Sellout of Security for Campaign Contributions) **FR EXCLUSIVE** #2

CIA Officials Reveal What Went Wrong – Clinton to Blame

Is Bill Clinton Responsible for September 11?

Clinton's Legacy: A Vulnerable America

Catastrophic intelligence Failure - Clinton's Bin Laden GATE

-Murder, Inc.--

-The number of "suicides" for people linked to this and other Clinton-related cases--

-ATTENTION BLOODHOUNDS--

-Women in the Clinton Era: Abuse,Intimidation and Smears--

-SEND JUANITA BROADDRICK VIDEO TO THOSE WHO WANT CLINTON TO SPEAK--

Nothing phony about response to Hillary at fete

Hillary's delegates spit on and taunt Police Honor Guard at her Convention

-Hillary Clinton-What America Needs to Know--

-Sen. Hillary Clinton--NewsMax.com Hot Topics--

Boo Hillary! The Video***

139 posted on 10/23/2001 2:23:01 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: Jim Scott
Senator Hillary Clinton has done little for these people except to offer the usual platitudes and then, effectively disappear.

Actually, she disappeared only *after* horning her way into enough photos and videotapings.

As much as she and her elitist, sissified pals would like to believe that these heroes are just ignorant, mouth-breathing, blue-collar grunts who scrape their knuckles along the ground as they walk into the bar to drink some Schlitz, they're smart and perceptive people. They have to be -- they have had to learn to quickly assess situations and make fast decisions, otherwise they could risk lives.

After all that, getting a read on what a phony, condescending bitch she is isn't particularly difficult.

140 posted on 10/23/2001 2:23:07 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick
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To: watsonfellow
Hitlery earned and deserves to be boooooed. She should be thankful that is all that it was. Personally, I'd have been throwing things at her.

Richard W.

141 posted on 10/23/2001 2:23:18 PM PDT by arete
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Ok. Next time we will just hiss really loud like she does.
142 posted on 10/23/2001 2:23:41 PM PDT by RetiredArmy
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To: watsonfellow
I respect your thought, but I disagree in this particular case.

It was clear to me that her sole purpose on stage was to showcase herself.

Not the firemen or policemen that died. Herself.
Not the rescuers. Herself.

Many famous New York liberals spoke and were not booed. She is a New Yorker wannabee. Her presence and her demeanor were entirely inappropriate for this event. It cheapened it. The only way to stop her from engaging in future cheap self-promotions was to humiliate her. I hope she got the message.

143 posted on 10/23/2001 2:24:21 PM PDT by kidd
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To: TLBSHOW
She is an asset to our country and it's about time people realized it. There is no excuse for ignorance.

Any comments ...email me personally.

Rick Samgeyser@cfl.rr.com

help freep this and many other fools here

http://www.hillary.org/hc/Hillary_Clinton_Forum_430_chat1.cgi

144 posted on 10/23/2001 2:24:22 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: watsonfellow
BOOOOOOO TO CLINTON, AND I WISH I COULD SEE THIS EVERY NIGHT. We have all waited 8 miserable years to get to see this, and it accidentially came to us. Remember she invited herself on stage, did you really watch her, she just don't get it, those BOOOOOOOS bounced right off her. But it finally reinforces what we all know, that no one loves her.
145 posted on 10/23/2001 2:24:33 PM PDT by annieokie
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To: watsonfellow
Gee, we share so many important things in common, Mass in Latin, etc. But, dear FReeper, we can only be responsible for our own behavior. We cannot control the behavior of others (our own young children excepted).
146 posted on 10/23/2001 2:24:43 PM PDT by onyx
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To: watsonfellow
Don't feel so bad. She didn't give a thought to their feelings when she gave them a slap in the face by having Puerto Rican terrorist-psychopathic-America-haters-cop-killers put back out on the street; nor did she feel bad when when she took communion in a Catholic church; nor when she disrespected St. Patrick's parade, I'm not Catholic but her disrespect offends me, nor does she give a second thought when she pushes abortion around the world, nor did she give a second thought to bombing Serbian civilians. She's not worth your time thinking about this.
147 posted on 10/23/2001 2:24:44 PM PDT by Prodigal Daughter
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To: watsonfellow
When you consider that this "servant of the people" ran an airport checkpoint and injured one of New York's Finest and gave no apology, didn't check to see if he was alright, and was only concerned with making her fund raiser, I think that booing her is ENTIRELY appropriate. What's beneath us is allowing carpet baggers to persue their own quest for power in another state when there wouldn't have been a snowball's chance in hell that she could have been elected at home.
148 posted on 10/23/2001 2:25:55 PM PDT by MattGarrett
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To: jamesbond
Yes, had the crowd simply quitely sat indisapproval, it would have been much easire for the press to spin that action as "TOTAL RESPECT FOR THE WORLD'S SMARTEST WOMAN" - but its a lot tougher to pretend boos were something good, like a Halloween cheer.

Nonetheless, she will be victimized again, and shame on hannity for not stating ANYTHING about FALN, spitting at cops, calling cops murderers, etc. when they debated this last night.

149 posted on 10/23/2001 2:25:58 PM PDT by bobono
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To: watsonfellow
From this poster's bio, they are a recent college graduate. Most likely, that would've made him/her 13 years old when the Clintons assumed the throne. This person is still very naive and weak, or they're a shill.

Either way, they deserve all the criticism we can muster.

150 posted on 10/23/2001 2:26:30 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg
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