Do not the secrets of Fatima contain a prophecy of the conversion of Russia? Obviously, this is has not occured yet (as one look at Russian society reveals). It is hard to see how it will occur during the pontificate of this pope since he has de-emphaized efforts at conversion to the Catholic Church in favor of ecumenism, such as the "two lungs" rhetoric, which obviously connotes the non-urgency, if not the non-necessity, of conversion.
Every leader weighs his power by his ability to prophecize correctly. The world is virtualy being haunted by demons. The sole and true prophecy is the one of God Who warned us about His abandoning us for sake of testing and education. Indeed, let us have a taste of Jiang's 1000 year worldwide communist reign, then maybe we will finaly come to understand Who God really is, and how indispensable He is to overthrow such powerful global god like reign against which we can less and less do because of lack of courrage.
posted on 10/25/2001 8:18:44 AM PDT
I just love when the Pope declares us the "other" lung of the Church...it was the Catholics who schismed, period. If they want reunification, then the Popes have to swallow their pride and acknowledge their equality to each and every patriarch and not as over lords of the church....then there are those other little things like the made up concept of purgetory and such falicies.
posted on 10/25/2001 8:22:31 AM PDT
John Paul II, somewhat mysteriously, spoke of the message of Fatima, stressing that three young girls could not have understood or interpreted what they had heard.
Especially since one of them was a BOY. (Francisco)
Ex89 (who once spent 5 days in Fatima with her now-deceased Grammy)
posted on 10/25/2001 2:11:44 PM PDT
Though it cannot be known in this world whether it is really through this inexplicable connection between Fatima and the papacy of John Paul II that Communism fell and that Russia has opened itself to a more democratic and free regime, with the beginnings of religious liberty, it is clear that, through these events, the formerly perscuted Christians in the East have benefited.
The Holy Alliance - "Faced with a military crackdown in Poland, Ronald Reagan and John Paul II secretly joined forces to keep the Solidarity union alive. They hoped not only to pressure Warsaw but to free all of Eastern Europe."
I would be very interested to know why hasn't the pope visited Ireland and addressed the problems there between " his people," Catholics " and the Protestants, they sure need it there. Yet he is traveling to Muslim contries, and Russia, only to mention a few.
I would " think" it would be more necessary to a land that is suffering over wars between Catholics and Protestants. I'm asking this question very seriously, to my knowledge he has never gone there, has he ?
In May of 1917 Russia was a Greek Orthodox country which held worship of Mary in high regard. Bolshevistic atheism had not as yet taken hold. Russia was already converted in 1917 as the Czar was the protector of the Greek Orthodox faith for centuries. The promise of Russia's conversion was not revealed until 1941 when Lucia had become a nun and then made public in October of 1942 by Cardinal Schuster, a highly partisan Nazi Catholic prelate by order of Pope Pius XII who did so in order to motivate German troops in their siege of Stalingrad and the commensurate promise of the "catholicization" of Russia.. The original story of the miracle was "added to" by order of Cardinal Schuster, to enhance its propaganda value. Think about it. Why would the Virgin Mary want to convert a Greek Orthodox nation that worships her and prays the rosary to a Roman Catholic faith that worships her and prays the rosary? Furthermore, if the Virgin told her "if my requests are heeded Russia will be converted" and at the same time told her to keep the request secret, how would anyone be able to keep her request? From 1917 until 1942 perhaps no conversion was necessary until von Paulus was trapped in Stalingrad. This myth is nothing but Catholic propaganda.
posted on 10/29/2001 5:31:04 AM PST
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