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To: marshmallow
Do not the secrets of Fatima contain a prophecy of the conversion of Russia? Obviously, this is has not occured yet (as one look at Russian society reveals). It is hard to see how it will occur during the pontificate of this pope since he has de-emphaized efforts at conversion to the Catholic Church in favor of ecumenism, such as the "two lungs" rhetoric, which obviously connotes the non-urgency, if not the non-necessity, of conversion.
2 posted on 10/25/2001 8:15:50 AM PDT by Stingray51
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To: Stingray51
Thanks for your concern for our conversion, I think we settled those issues in a series of wars stretching from the Catholic betrayal of Kieven Russ when it faced the Mongol hordes. Read this and memorize it: WE ARE NOT AND DO NOT WANT TO BE CATHOLIC

EVER!!!!!

. If you can't accept that, don't cross the border, capish?
5 posted on 10/25/2001 8:24:51 AM PDT by Stavka2
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To: Stingray51
Perhaps he de-emphasize conversion because he knows that now and until the Second Coming, unless the Popes of Rome repent of their pride in declaring themselves to be the "Vicars of Christ" (as if He who promised, "Lo I am with you to the end of the age" is absent so as to need a vicar) and humbly submit to the canons and teachings of the Ecumenical Councils of the Holy Orthodox Church as they did before the 11th century, papal overtures to the Orthodox will always be met with the words St. Aleksander Nevsky used in replying to the Crusdaders who sought to reduce Holy Russia to papal rule:

"The traditions of the Holy Fathers of the Seven Councils we scrupulously keep. As for your words we hear them not. We do not want your doctrine."

These words were spoken by the saint in reply to the embassies of the Teutonic Knights before he defeated them, by the grace of God, in the Battle on the Ice.

10 posted on 10/25/2001 9:45:05 AM PDT by The_Reader_David
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