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To: A.J.Armitage
He defines nationalism and patriotism well, but then he throws in that nasty little word, 'jingoism'. What the *^%^@%!#(&^)(&(_&*&%@%!!! blazes is that word??? People throw that around like its worse than Nazism, a seeming reaction to someone who boasts of the accomplishments and virtues of their country, a reaction that is one of revulsion and dismay and shock.

I hate that word!! Its thrown into every conversation of patriotism for the last 30 years...and its usually mouthed by someone of European/UK origin.

5 posted on 10/29/2001 6:41:46 PM PST by Alkhin
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To: Alkhin
I think "old-fashioned British jingoism" expresses the meaning he had in mind pretty well. It's no more perjorative than the other forms he discusses.
7 posted on 10/29/2001 6:50:52 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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To: Alkhin
The context of the coining of jingoism was British foreign policy of the late 1870s: the Prime Minister, Benjamin Disraeli, favored sending in gunboats to halt the advance of the Russian fleet out of their own waters into the Mediterranean; this gave rise to a music-hall song, written in 1878 by G.W. Hunt, the refrain of which went: "We don't want to fight, yet by Jingo! if we do, We've got the ships, we've got the men, and got the money too"; opponents of the policy picked up on the word jingo and used it as an icon of blind patriotism
24 posted on 10/29/2001 7:49:12 PM PST by Eagle74
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