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The Danger Within: Militant Islam in America
Commentary Magazine ^ | November 2001 | Daniel Pipes

Posted on 10/31/2001 12:21:54 PM PST by ZeitgeistSurfer

In the aftermath of the violence on September 11, American politicians from George W. Bush on down have tripped over themselves to affirm that the vast majority of Muslims living in the United States are just ordinary people. Here is how the President put it during a visit to a mosque on September 17: "America counts millions of Muslims among our citizens, and Muslims make an incredibly valuable contribution to our country. Muslims are doctors, lawyers, law professors, members of the military, entrepreneurs, shopkeepers, moms and dads." Two days later, he added that "there are millions of good Americans who practice the Muslim faith who love their country as much as I love the country, who salute the flag as strongly as I salute the flag."

These soothing words, echoed and amplified by many columnists and editorial writers, were obviously appropriate at a moment of high national tension and amid reports of mounting bias against Muslims living in the United States. And it is certainly true that the number of militant Islamic operatives with plans to carry out terrorist attacks on the United States is statistically tiny. But the situation is more complex than the President would have it.

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Another good article by Pipes. Cool, rational and scary.
1 posted on 10/31/2001 12:21:54 PM PST by ZeitgeistSurfer
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
cut and pasted to be read later offline!!
2 posted on 10/31/2001 12:30:14 PM PST by RaceBannon
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
Guess who is one of the most hated men by the Muslims in the US? The truth hurts.
3 posted on 10/31/2001 12:35:18 PM PST by rebdov
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To: rebdov
The San Francisco Chronicle had an article about a Muslim political meeting. They made it out to be of the same type as any other ethnic pressure group, for example La Raza. But we know now the hidden agenda of these groups. The SF Chronical article even mentioned a speaker at the event talking about a Muslim President being in office in 2020. The Chronicle made it seem this is the same as Irish-Catholics supporting JFK in 1960. If the Chronicle did some homework they would know this hoped for Muslim President is a whole different animal.
4 posted on 10/31/2001 12:49:27 PM PST by mjk19
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
This is scary.

Siddiqi sees Islamists in power in Washington before 2020. For Wahaj, implementation of the shari'a in the United States "appears to be approaching fast," and in contemplating what that means his language grows ecstatic:

I have a vision in America, Muslims owning property all over, Muslim businesses, factories, halal meat, supermarkets, all these buildings owned by Muslims. Can you see the vision, can you see the Newark International Airport and a John Kennedy Airport and LaGuardia having Muslim fleets of planes, Muslim pilots. Can you see our trucks rolling down the highways, Muslim names. Can you imagine walking down the streets of Teaneck, [New Jersey]: three Muslim high schools, five Muslim junior-high schools, fifteen public schools. Can you see the vision, can you see young women walking down the street of Newark, New Jersey, with long flowing hijab and long dresses. Can you see the vision of an area of no crime, controlled by the Muslims?

5 posted on 10/31/2001 12:56:28 PM PST by l33t
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
Locks the doors. Keep them out. It's a cultist "religion" that is anti-freedom. They even define how their followers wipe their a$$!

They made a big mistake on 9/11. Before we did not pay attention, we did not see them. Now we do.

6 posted on 10/31/2001 12:57:56 PM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
We must stop immigration from Muslim countries and export those here on visas.
7 posted on 10/31/2001 1:00:51 PM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
Why do they want to live in the middle of "the Great Satan"?
8 posted on 10/31/2001 1:05:00 PM PST by Kermit the Frog Does theWatusi
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
Wanna see how nutz th people are check this out:

Cazysheeple.com

9 posted on 10/31/2001 1:05:40 PM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
So when the islamist college professor makes a statement about how islam doesn't seek to rule America, he is like Arafat, saying one thing to the English speaking press, and another to his arab-muslim-terrorist constituents.

The arab word "taqiyah" is religious justification for lying, which it is becoming more clear is the national pastime of every one of these places. No baseball, no soap operas, no elections, no auto plants, or computer makers. Just millions of LIERS.

10 posted on 10/31/2001 1:06:59 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: RaceBannon
bump
11 posted on 10/31/2001 1:07:39 PM PST by tom paine 2
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
How could the Quicky Mart function without them?
12 posted on 10/31/2001 1:11:16 PM PST by boycott
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
We need to airdrop hundreds of Rosie O'Donnells and Hillary Clintons into Afghanistan via parachute.
13 posted on 10/31/2001 1:11:32 PM PST by Kermit the Frog Does theWatusi
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
Was this artice published in Commentary Magazine?
14 posted on 10/31/2001 1:13:43 PM PST by beckett
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
In Kabbani's reliable estimation, such "extremists" have "taken over 80 percent of the mosques" in the United States. And not just the mosques: schools, youth groups, community centers, political organizations, professional associations, and commercial enterprises also tend to share a militant outlook, hostile to the prevailing order in the United States and advocating its replacement with an Islamic one.

Stop importing 'em. Now.

15 posted on 10/31/2001 1:21:56 PM PST by skeeter
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
Thanks for the post - very scary
16 posted on 10/31/2001 1:22:40 PM PST by JmyBryan
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To: dennisw
Bump for later reading
17 posted on 10/31/2001 1:27:07 PM PST by vrwc54
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
Thanks and Bump!
18 posted on 10/31/2001 1:27:43 PM PST by headsonpikes
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To: skeeter
Its the Saudis who finance the mosques, youth centers, etc in the United States. As a condition for the money, these places are required to follow the Wahibab extermenist line including converting the US to Islam.
19 posted on 10/31/2001 1:28:43 PM PST by mjk19
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To: Kermit the Frog Does theWatusi
So they can take over and dominate us from within.
21 posted on 10/31/2001 1:34:15 PM PST by BenF
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To: truth_seeker
Satan is the author of all lies. We know who their REAL boss is, don't we?
22 posted on 10/31/2001 1:35:39 PM PST by bookwurm
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
Thanks for beating me to the post......This is an eye-opening article which will surely be denounced by the liberals and the Arab props in FR.
23 posted on 10/31/2001 1:35:48 PM PST by BenF
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To: Kermit the Frog Does theWatusi
Why do they want to live in the middle of "the Great Satan"?

Pretty hard to bring this country down with an external attack. It needs to be done internally like poison or another pathogen. You got to get into the belly of the beast.

Kind of like being poisoned: when you see the obvious symptoms it may be to late. Especially if your immune system is compromised by socialisn, and you are not fighting back 100%. -Tom

24 posted on 10/31/2001 1:36:44 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: Capt. Tom
They want to dominate the world. There's a term for this type of grandiose delusion - paranoid schizophrenia. Atta demonstrated all the classic signs. As does bin-Laden.
25 posted on 10/31/2001 1:39:09 PM PST by Kermit the Frog Does theWatusi
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To: RealClear
I NEVER THOUGHT ID SAY THIS, BUT THESE PEOPLE MAKE THE ACLU CRUSADE TO TAKE PUBLIC PRAYER OUT OF THE PUBLIC SQUARE LOOK LIKE A BLESSING.

My thoughts also.

But I'm afraid the folks who have been fighting tooth & nail to remove Christian prayer from school will be suddenly silent when the time comes to challange the Muslim.

26 posted on 10/31/2001 1:47:07 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Kermit the Frog Does theWatusi
They take over by first infiltrating. Ask Indonesia or the Phillipenes.
27 posted on 10/31/2001 1:47:32 PM PST by Republic of Texas
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
bttt

Maybe some of the muslim apologists could comment on this. It's really important that everyone in this country pick, and declare, a side in this war.

You're either with US, or you're with the terrorists.

28 posted on 10/31/2001 1:48:30 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: Republic of Texas
I don't understand why there has not been a national emergency declared with key items being an immediate recall and vetting of visas from the Middle East, hastened deportation proceedings, and closure of mosques known to be associated with militant Islam, at the very least. There is no vague, generalized "right" for any foreign alien,tourist, or student from the Middle East to be here. And the body count continues with this Anthrax insanity.
29 posted on 10/31/2001 1:53:15 PM PST by Kermit the Frog Does theWatusi
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To: meadsjn
First I read the 'Commentary', and was afraid. Then I thought, well, who is this Pipes anyway and read his bio. Then I was very afraid. This nation has a virus and as PC as we are, we can't acknowledge it.
30 posted on 10/31/2001 2:06:51 PM PST by mad puppy
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
Well, this is certainly appropriate to read on Halloween. There is not a ghost or goblin roaming around tonight that is more frightening than this article. Must reading for every American citizen IMHO and I thank you for posting it.
31 posted on 10/31/2001 2:09:12 PM PST by ladyinred
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Ping for Halloween reading.
32 posted on 10/31/2001 2:10:19 PM PST by ladyinred
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Thanks for the bump. Daniel Pipes is one of the top debunkers of radical Islam and defenders of Zion. Go Dan go!!!
33 posted on 10/31/2001 2:11:20 PM PST by dennisw
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
Thanks for posting this. Dan Pipes is always good! A truth teller about the Islamic Jihad long before the 9-11 attack!
34 posted on 10/31/2001 2:12:51 PM PST by dennisw
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To: isthisnickcool
And, the biggest irony is that, were the Islamists to succeed in establishing their religious rules for the USA, guess who would lose the most - the no-rules, immoral Liberals!
35 posted on 10/31/2001 2:22:08 PM PST by The Right Stuff
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To: isthisnickcool
Wow, interesting site. How about this one from "Ask the Imam":

Q: Is it a sin to conceal one's actual income to the government to avoid paying exorbitant taxes?

A: It is not a sin to conceal your proper income. However, one must avoid all such actions which bring disgrace upon one.

Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) said, 'It is not proper for a believer to disgrace himself.

' (Tirmidhi) and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai
FATWA DEPT.

37 posted on 10/31/2001 2:24:27 PM PST by snippy_about_it
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To: dennisw
I'm on his email list and I just read this a few minutes ago. Good and informative as usual.
38 posted on 10/31/2001 2:28:23 PM PST by Lent
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To: Thinkin' Gal; RnMomof7; 2sheep; MissAmericanPie; ratcat; freedomnews; Freedom'sWorthIt...
An excellent article with very compelling facts about the true state of the union.
39 posted on 10/31/2001 2:28:44 PM PST by TrueBeliever9
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
We should compromise, we shouldn't give them the whole US like they want, maybe just Hollywood.
40 posted on 10/31/2001 2:29:03 PM PST by FITZ
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To: snippy_about_it
"Allah Ta'ala Knows Best" -- Number 1 sitcom on Taliban TV.
41 posted on 10/31/2001 2:29:06 PM PST by headsonpikes
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To: mad puppy
I had not read his bio until you mentioned it, but I agree with all the points he made in the article.

Anyone who thinks this guy is just blowing smoke should take a closer look.

quick link to the Daniel Pipes biography

42 posted on 10/31/2001 2:36:14 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: headsonpikes
In five years from now the American sheeple will forget all about what happened on 9-11. They will listen to all the loving and tolerant leaders who immediately marched out Muslim clerics at 9-11 memorials and lied about Islam being a peaceful religion.

When I saw the Muslim clerics on the stage at the Yankee stadium memorial, I just about put my foot through my brand new 36" WEGA TV. I couldn't turn it off soon enough.

How insulting, these people act as if Islam is our friend and is not in the least way the reason for the Jihad that has been declared on America.

If you don't believe that Islam is at war with America, read this thread. Then take two aspirins and call the bozos in Washington in the morning. Is This a "War Against Islam?" YES!

The bozocrats in DC act as though we can co-exist with Muslims in America. THEY ARE WRONG!!!

If we do not once and for all destroy the hateful parts of Islam right now, and force them to once and for all renounce the parts of the Koran that are evil and desire to dominate the whole World, we will be looking at a far worse problem in 5-10 years when we suffer the next wave of Islam suicidal terrorists who will rise from the ashes of Al Quaida and do much worse.

Wake up America and smell the Muslim stench!

43 posted on 10/31/2001 2:48:40 PM PST by TaZ
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To: isthisnickcool
Folks, see link at post number 9. This is an eye opener site.

Ask the Imam site:

Q:My question is can you kill a disbeliever who doesn't accept Islam. Please tell me in details with simple English understanding.

Answer 1602 2000-11-18

It is not permissible to kill a disbeliever if he does not accept Islam. However, in a situation of jihad, if the disbelievers are conquered, they will be invited to Islam. If they refuse to accept Islam, they will be ordered to give jizya (tax). If they refuse to give jizya, then only will they be killed.

Was salaam

Mufti E Desai
Fatwa Dept.

44 posted on 10/31/2001 3:03:26 PM PST by snippy_about_it
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To: TaZ
The Muslims will be the authors of their own demise.

They have already shown their tin-eared response to American concerns.

They perpetually moan,"what about ME?"

I think folks already see them for what they are. They're doomed. ;^)

Not that there's anything wrong with that!

45 posted on 10/31/2001 3:03:38 PM PST by headsonpikes
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer

British Muslims, Guardian Oct. 30

*Not intended to include Turks.

46 posted on 10/31/2001 3:04:12 PM PST by Shermy
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
I hope all the Presidents man are rerading this stuff
47 posted on 10/31/2001 3:10:10 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Kermit the Frog Does theWatusi
There is no place in muslin land that is even close to being a paradise like the Good old U.S.A. They hate us because they can NEVER be like us!!!! islam is a religion of hate!!!!
48 posted on 10/31/2001 3:11:18 PM PST by Lewite
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To: truth_seeker
No baseball, no soap operas, no elections, no auto plants, or computer makers.

But they do have camel races!

49 posted on 10/31/2001 3:18:34 PM PST by Ceebass
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To: harpseal; Travis McGee; Squantos; sneakypete; Chapita; LadyX; Billie; ofMagog; COB1; Scuttlebutt...
A Snip

A little over a year later, addressing an audience of New Jersey Muslims, the same Wahaj articulated a rather different vision from his mild and moderate invocation in the House. If only Muslims were more clever politically, he told his New Jersey listeners, they could take over the United States and replace its constitutional government with a caliphate. "If we were united and strong, we'd elect our own emir [leader] and give allegiance to him. . . . [T]ake my word, if 6-8 million Muslims unite in America, the country will come to us."

50 posted on 10/31/2001 3:22:39 PM PST by razorback-bert
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