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HUSSEIN THE CONQUEROR -- Is Saddam Hussein the Reincarnation of King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon?
Sabertooth, others | October 31, 2001 | Sabertooth, others

Posted on 10/31/2001 2:50:19 PM PST by Sabertooth

Hussein the Conqueror 

Is Saddam Hussein the Reincarnation of the Chaldean Emperor Nebuchadnezzar?
Is it his destiny to sack Jerusalem, destroy Israel, and kill and capture the Jews?
There's an evil megalomaniac in Iraq, and he seems to be itching for a war with America.
Evidence is mounting which implicates Saddam Hussein in the anthrax attacks on the United States,
as well as the bloody attacks of 9/11.

Why would he do this…?

"King Nebuchadnezzar is best known to students of the Bible for his defeat of the southern kingdom of Judah (the northern kingdom of Israel was by then long gone, having been conquered and deported over a century earlier by the Assyrians - see Ancient Empires - Assyria). By 586 B.C., the Babylonian forces conquered the land, devastated Jerusalem, looted and burned the original Temple that had been built by Solomon (see Temples and Temple Mount Treasures), and took the people away into what became known as the "Babylonian Exile." (2Kings 25:1-17)."*

Can it be that Saddam Hussein actually believes he is the reincarnation of one of History's great conquerors?


Official Hussein biography
The Rise of Babylon,
by Charles H. Dyer with Angela Elwell Hunt

…Dyer points out Saddam Hussein's own plans to emulate King Nebuchadnezzar as evidenced in a commemorative medal he had cast with the ancient king's profile and his own side by side. In addition to the hanging gardens of Babylon and the unification of the surrounding nations, King Nebuchadnezzar is perhaps most noted for the sacking of Jerusalem and the captivity of the Jewish people.

The author reveals how Hussein's followers already recognize him as today's equivalent of that ancient king:

The tour guide at a reconstructed palace in Babylon described with enthusiasm the restored monument of the ancient city...she got to the throne room and pointed to the empty platform. "This is where the Saddam Hussein had his throne. This is where Saddam Hussein sat," she said, voice rising in pride.

The short, stout woman looked around at the quizzical faces, then caught herself with a nervous laugh. "I mean Nebuchadnezzar... Nebuchadnezzar had his throne here."


Hussein and petrified British child,
held briefly hostage prior to Gulf War in 1990.
Trying to make like "Uncle Joe" Stalin (right),
Saddam was even less convincing.

Dead Kurdish child of
Hussein's chemical attack, 1988.

The Halabja Atrocity
Saddam Hussein: The Last Great Tyrant
By Robert Fisk Independent December 30, 2000

In Baghdad, the palace lawns are better tended, but the same sense of spent taste and vulgarity pervades the president's imagery. Saddam on horseback, in Kurdish clothes, embracing babies and war heroes, riding on a charger in medieval armour to confront the Persians at the Battle of Qaddasiyeh, dressed as Nebuchadnezzar, he who conquered Syria and Palestine, sacked Ashkelon and subdued all the tribes of the Arabs. Like the king of Babylonia, Saddam decided to rebuild Babylon; and so the ancient city was ripped apart and reconstructed, Disney-style, in the image of the great man.

Even the giant egg-shell monument to the Iraqi war dead of 1980-88 is a personal museum to Saddam's family. Visit the crypt and besidethe names of half a million dead you find a photograph of the young, revolutionary Saddam, on the run from the royal family, of Saddam studying in Cairo (his hero was not Hitler but Stalin)…


Saddam's Surprise Parade December 31, 2000

Giant image of Hussein looks west
over the Dome of the Rock to Jerusalem.
Below, Arabian horses with Iraqi flags
trample the flag of Israel, 12-31-2000.

Iraqi warplanes fly over statue of Saddam Hussein
at military parade, 12-31-2000.

Masked, white clad Iraqi soldiers, 12-31-2000.

Jassim Mohammed -- AP

Potential suicide bombers parade in front of a poster of
President Saddam Hussein, 12-31-2000.

Iraqi stamp issued on "Palestine Day," 1997

Saddam Hussein and Saladin, Islamic captor of Jerusalem
Behind them, is the Dome of the Rock, al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem
Born on April 28, 1937, in Tikrit, the seat of Saladdin Province.

Jerrold Post
Author of Political Paranoia: the Psychopolitics of Hatred
Statement of 12/1990, before the House Armed Services Committee

Inspired by his uncle's tales of heroism in the service of the Arab nation, Saddam has been consumed by dreams of glory since his earliest days. He identifies himself with Nebuchadnezzar, the King of Babylonia who conquered Jerusalem (586 B.C.) and Saladin who regained Jerusalem in 1187 by defeating the Crusaders….

In pursuit of his messianic dreams, there is no evidence he is constrained by conscience; his only loyalty is to Saddam Hussein…


Saddam the Palestinian

Excerpt from Hussein's "Day of Days" speech, 8-8-2001

"…In any case, do not pay much attention to the terrorist statements circulated by the defiled Jews and Zionists in the world, supported by the criminal administrations in the Black House. Do not make these statements a passage to weaken the unity of your people and their national force which is mobilized entirely to liberate the whole of Palestine after it has been baptized and has performed its ablution with pure blood..

…tell them, brothers under the leadership of brother President Yassir, together with your brothers in all the titles of leadership and its hierarchy on the land of Palestine, and let every honest and loyal Palestinian freedom fighter and every faithful and ardent Arab tell them this: Death is right and for those who struggle and fight a jihadic war…"


Look familiar?
Saddam Hussein in a Napoleonic pose.

I'd love to get translations of the Arabic
from some of these pics.

Napoleon crossing the alps

"With your birth Iraq was reborn,"

…one of the many banners.

On April 28, the man who has thwarted two American presidents celebrated his 62nd birthday. Saddam was feted by parades and ceremonies throughout Iraq.
For the biggest party, held in his native village of Audsha near Takrit, the president brought in 5,000 foreign guests, among them Arab and Eastern European politicians and intellectuals, but also 150 Russian athletes and two Armenian football teams.

A huge portrait depicted the leader as a modern-day Nebuchadnezzar, mounted on a chariot and shooting down American jets with his bows and arrows.


Megalomaniacs with a Conqueror Delusion
are really into this type of imagery.
Here's Adolph Hitler doing his best Frederick Barbarossa.
Der Fuerher was so obsessed with his German forerunner,
that he made the same damn fool mistake
of attacking Russia on June 22,
and like Barbarossa and Napoleon,
he failed to take Moscow before Winter.

Hussein's rebuilt Ishtar Gate, Babylon.

Depiction of the Ishtar Gate of Ancient Babylon

by N.W. Hutchings

In 1971, UNESCO announced that it would help Iraq completely restore the ancient city of Babylon. The reconstruction be under the general supervision of Saddam Hussein, who made his appearance in 1969 as the Iraqi strongman by hanging eight Jews on the streets of Baghdad as a warning for others to hit-the-road elsewhere. In 1978, 1 led a Southwest Radio Church tour of 103 to Iraq. One of the sites we visited was Babylon. There was a four-lane highway between Baghdad and Babylon with brick factories along the way turning out bricks for this tremendous reconstruction project. On one end of the brick was the name Nebuchadnezzar, and on the other end was the name Saddam Hussein who, then and now, envisions himself as a modern Nebuchadnezzar to restore the glory that was once Babylon's.


Saddam hiding weapons in Babylon?
February 25, 1998

German newspapers today published new disclosures on Iraq's military capabilities. The daily Bild reported that Saddam Hussein has hidden a large supply of nerve gas and biological weapons beneath the ruins of ancient Babylon, on the assumption that the U.S. would not dare to bomb the archaeological and historical site.


"Babylon shall become a heap,
A dwelling place for jackals,
An astonishment and a hissing,
Without an inhabitant."

Jeremiah 51:37.

Statue of Saddam Hussein

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I met a traveler from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed.

And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"

Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

Percy Bysshe Shelley ~ 1818

"…Zionism has been planning for the domination of the world since its well-known conference it convened in Basle in 1897. Ever since, it has been working in this direction. It has scored successes you can feel by controlling finance, media and commerce centres in your countries and whoever rules in your name, here and there, in decision-making centres. But its domination is not yet fulfilled to have its will absolute and final. This could only be feasible when two heavenly faiths upheld by the biggest bloc in the world are thrown into conflict. Otherwise, Zionism would be denied the accomplishment of all its ambitions. The masterminds of Zionism are, therefore, working for a clash between Christianity and Islam on the assumption that this, and only this, could secure the chance to dominate the world…"

Saddam Hussein, October 30, 2001


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Much of the material on the Hussein's long obsession with Nebuchadnezzar comes from religious sources, mostly Christian and some Jewish. I've tried as much as possible here to go for secular sources, to avoid some of the eshatological slant.

That being said, I certainly welcome more sources, secular or religious, and information from any corner. In particular, I'm looking for images of medals and billboards from Hussein's Babylon Festivals of the late 1980s, which show Saddam's profile superimposed over Nebuchadnezzar's, or the two of them shaking hands over the centuries of Mesopotamian Civilization. I've seen them in books, but couldn't find them on-line.

I believe that this Conqueror Fetish of the most brutal tyrant of our time as been sadly ignored by the mainstream press, and I believe, by many in our government.

It doesn't matter what you or I might believe about reincarnation, it matters what Saddam Hussein believes, because he is attempting to re-ignite the "Mother of all Battles."

And his undeniable goal is to destroy America, Israel, and all of Western Civilization.

1 posted on 10/31/2001 2:50:20 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: harpseal; Travis McGee; Victoria Delsoul; Spirit Of Truth; Manny Festo; The Documentary Lady...

2 posted on 10/31/2001 2:51:58 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: CheneyChick; vikingchick; WIMom; one_particular_harbour; kmiller1k; Victoria Delsoul...

3 posted on 10/31/2001 2:52:31 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
double growl. Awesome stuff, and I would believe that Hussein could join other megalomaniacs such as Hitler who envisioned themselves as reincarnations of ancient warriors.
4 posted on 10/31/2001 2:57:08 PM PST by The Right Stuff
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To: Sabertooth
I see a slight problem here. He has no competent soldiers. Is he an Army of One, to coin a phrase?
5 posted on 10/31/2001 2:59:14 PM PST by longleaf
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To: longleaf
He has no competent soldiers.

Someone's been doing a good job on his behalf.

6 posted on 10/31/2001 3:02:15 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Saddam, this nuke's for you.

7 posted on 10/31/2001 3:02:25 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Sabertooth
HUSSEIN THE CONQUEROR -- Is Saddam Hussein the Reincarnation of King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon?" In a word, no.
8 posted on 10/31/2001 3:06:07 PM PST by Clara Lou
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To: Sabertooth
Then again he may just be a stone athiest. But you know where he gets his juice from? Yeah. That's right!
9 posted on 10/31/2001 3:08:16 PM PST by dennisw
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To: Sabertooth
He is the Re-incarnation of the Mother of all Camel Turds
10 posted on 10/31/2001 3:09:03 PM PST by HP8753
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To: Sabertooth
"Is Saddam Hussein the Reincarnation of the Chaldean Emperor Nebuchadnezzar?"

Better call Shirley MacLaine

11 posted on 10/31/2001 3:09:41 PM PST by APBaer
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To: Sabertooth
If you look at that map of the old empire, Nebuchadnezzar II has got quite a ways to go before he matches it. He's having a hard enough time holding the borders drawn by the British colonial administrators. And let's not mention the botched attempt to reclaim the "19th Province."

Sorry, Saddam, count me as a skeptic.

12 posted on 10/31/2001 3:11:24 PM PST by longleaf
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To: Sabertooth
Let us remember that God used Nebuchadnezzar to punish the sin of the children of Israel. God also abased Nebuchandnezser when he got haughty. Read Daniel 4.

Here is what Nebuchadnezzar said in his own words:

4:34 "But at the end of that period, I, Nebuchadnezzar, raised my eyes toward heaven and my reason returned to me, and I blessed the Most High and praised and honored Him who lives forever; For His dominion is an everlasting dominion, And His kingdom endures from generation to generation. 4:35 "All the inhabitants of the earth are accounted as nothing, But He does according to His will in the host of heaven And among the inhabitants of earth; And no one can ward off His hand Or say to Him, "What have You done?' 4:36 "At that time my reason returned to me. And my majesty and splendor were restored to me for the glory of my kingdom, and my counselors and my nobles began seeking me out; so I was reestablished in my sovereignty, and surpassing greatness was added to me. 4:37 "Now I, Nebuchadnezzar, praise, exalt and honor the King of heaven, for all His works are true and His ways just, and He is able to humble those who walk in pride.'' 5

13 posted on 10/31/2001 3:12:09 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Sabertooth; Thinkin' Gal
Excellent post, which must have taken many hours' work.

Take some comfort from this: megalomaniacs never know when to stop. Should Hussein try to "sack Jerusalem, destroy Israel, and kill and capture the Jews" -- which he can't -- no one will ever find his vaporized remains.

14 posted on 10/31/2001 3:12:40 PM PST by dighton
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To: Clara Lou
You missed the point. I think he's an evil, brutal nutbag. Believing in Reincarnation is just part of that.

But Megalomainacs have a psychological profile. They're different than you and me.

The point is to know our enemy.

15 posted on 10/31/2001 3:13:46 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
HUSSEIN THE CONQUEROR -- Is Saddam Hussein the Reincarnation of King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon?

Not if the promise of the Bible is true. I don't have time to look it up, but the Scripture reads,
"It is appointed for man once to die. And after this, the judgement."

16 posted on 10/31/2001 3:16:06 PM PST by Two Thirds Vote Aye
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To: AmericaUnited
When His son Belshazzar got cocky, God caused his kingdom to be overthrown that very night. Read Daniel 5.

5:30 That same night Belshazzar the Chaldean king was slain. 5:31 So Darius the Mede received the kingdom at about the age of sixty-two.

And the conclusion of the matter, the Holy One of Israel is sovereign over all the affairs of man.

17 posted on 10/31/2001 3:16:21 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Sabertooth
More like the reincarnation of Benito Mussolini.

Time will tell...

18 posted on 10/31/2001 3:17:46 PM PST by StoneColdGOP
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To: Sabertooth
Saddam and Tariq Aziz look like pretty happy campers in the latest video footage. I reckon old Saddam settled down with a fine cigar to enjoy CNN on 9/11. That was his Superbowl. Must have been a real kick. Bet he creamed his khakis when those towers collapsed. Now his agents, Mr. Atta and Mr. Aziz, have informed us that he will unleash biological warfare on the US population if we attempt to retaliate. I can think of no way to stop him from doing so.

Thank you, Bill Clinton.

19 posted on 10/31/2001 3:23:22 PM PST by Clinton's a rapist
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To: Sabertooth
Great post. This is the kind of thread that makes FR really worthwhile. Thanks!

He certainly has the Hitler complex going on. He's used poison gas and has attacked in all directions. Good thing he rules a backwards country or he would be even more of a menace. I'm not sure if you knew this but he named one of his republican guard divisions "Nebuchadnezzar". I think it got splattered but was rebuilt.

20 posted on 10/31/2001 3:23:48 PM PST by newwahoo
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