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HUSSEIN THE CONQUEROR -- Is Saddam Hussein the Reincarnation of King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon?
Sabertooth, others | October 31, 2001 | Sabertooth, others

Posted on 10/31/2001 2:50:19 PM PST by Sabertooth

Hussein the Conqueror 

Is Saddam Hussein the Reincarnation of the Chaldean Emperor Nebuchadnezzar?
Is it his destiny to sack Jerusalem, destroy Israel, and kill and capture the Jews?
There's an evil megalomaniac in Iraq, and he seems to be itching for a war with America.
Evidence is mounting which implicates Saddam Hussein in the anthrax attacks on the United States,
as well as the bloody attacks of 9/11.

Why would he do this…?

"King Nebuchadnezzar is best known to students of the Bible for his defeat of the southern kingdom of Judah (the northern kingdom of Israel was by then long gone, having been conquered and deported over a century earlier by the Assyrians - see Ancient Empires - Assyria). By 586 B.C., the Babylonian forces conquered the land, devastated Jerusalem, looted and burned the original Temple that had been built by Solomon (see Temples and Temple Mount Treasures), and took the people away into what became known as the "Babylonian Exile." (2Kings 25:1-17)."*

Can it be that Saddam Hussein actually believes he is the reincarnation of one of History's great conquerors?

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Official Hussein biography
The Rise of Babylon,
by Charles H. Dyer with Angela Elwell Hunt

…Dyer points out Saddam Hussein's own plans to emulate King Nebuchadnezzar as evidenced in a commemorative medal he had cast with the ancient king's profile and his own side by side. In addition to the hanging gardens of Babylon and the unification of the surrounding nations, King Nebuchadnezzar is perhaps most noted for the sacking of Jerusalem and the captivity of the Jewish people.

The author reveals how Hussein's followers already recognize him as today's equivalent of that ancient king:

The tour guide at a reconstructed palace in Babylon described with enthusiasm the restored monument of the ancient city...she got to the throne room and pointed to the empty platform. "This is where the Saddam Hussein had his throne. This is where Saddam Hussein sat," she said, voice rising in pride.

The short, stout woman looked around at the quizzical faces, then caught herself with a nervous laugh. "I mean Nebuchadnezzar... Nebuchadnezzar had his throne here."

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Hussein and petrified British child,
held briefly hostage prior to Gulf War in 1990.
Trying to make like "Uncle Joe" Stalin (right),
Saddam was even less convincing.

Dead Kurdish child of
Hussein's chemical attack, 1988.

The Halabja Atrocity
Saddam Hussein: The Last Great Tyrant
By Robert Fisk Independent December 30, 2000

In Baghdad, the palace lawns are better tended, but the same sense of spent taste and vulgarity pervades the president's imagery. Saddam on horseback, in Kurdish clothes, embracing babies and war heroes, riding on a charger in medieval armour to confront the Persians at the Battle of Qaddasiyeh, dressed as Nebuchadnezzar, he who conquered Syria and Palestine, sacked Ashkelon and subdued all the tribes of the Arabs. Like the king of Babylonia, Saddam decided to rebuild Babylon; and so the ancient city was ripped apart and reconstructed, Disney-style, in the image of the great man.

Even the giant egg-shell monument to the Iraqi war dead of 1980-88 is a personal museum to Saddam's family. Visit the crypt and besidethe names of half a million dead you find a photograph of the young, revolutionary Saddam, on the run from the royal family, of Saddam studying in Cairo (his hero was not Hitler but Stalin)…

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Saddam's Surprise Parade December 31, 2000

Giant image of Hussein looks west
over the Dome of the Rock to Jerusalem.
Below, Arabian horses with Iraqi flags
trample the flag of Israel, 12-31-2000.

Iraqi warplanes fly over statue of Saddam Hussein
at military parade, 12-31-2000.

Masked, white clad Iraqi soldiers, 12-31-2000.

Jassim Mohammed -- AP

Potential suicide bombers parade in front of a poster of
President Saddam Hussein, 12-31-2000.

Iraqi stamp issued on "Palestine Day," 1997

Saddam Hussein and Saladin, Islamic captor of Jerusalem
Behind them, is the Dome of the Rock, al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem
Born on April 28, 1937, in Tikrit, the seat of Saladdin Province.

Jerrold Post
Author of Political Paranoia: the Psychopolitics of Hatred
Statement of 12/1990, before the House Armed Services Committee

Inspired by his uncle's tales of heroism in the service of the Arab nation, Saddam has been consumed by dreams of glory since his earliest days. He identifies himself with Nebuchadnezzar, the King of Babylonia who conquered Jerusalem (586 B.C.) and Saladin who regained Jerusalem in 1187 by defeating the Crusaders….

In pursuit of his messianic dreams, there is no evidence he is constrained by conscience; his only loyalty is to Saddam Hussein…

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Saddam the Palestinian

Excerpt from Hussein's "Day of Days" speech, 8-8-2001

"…In any case, do not pay much attention to the terrorist statements circulated by the defiled Jews and Zionists in the world, supported by the criminal administrations in the Black House. Do not make these statements a passage to weaken the unity of your people and their national force which is mobilized entirely to liberate the whole of Palestine after it has been baptized and has performed its ablution with pure blood..

…tell them, brothers under the leadership of brother President Yassir, together with your brothers in all the titles of leadership and its hierarchy on the land of Palestine, and let every honest and loyal Palestinian freedom fighter and every faithful and ardent Arab tell them this: Death is right and for those who struggle and fight a jihadic war…"

LINK

Look familiar?
Saddam Hussein in a Napoleonic pose.

I'd love to get translations of the Arabic
from some of these pics.

Napoleon crossing the alps

"With your birth Iraq was reborn,"

…one of the many banners.

On April 28, the man who has thwarted two American presidents celebrated his 62nd birthday. Saddam was feted by parades and ceremonies throughout Iraq.
For the biggest party, held in his native village of Audsha near Takrit, the president brought in 5,000 foreign guests, among them Arab and Eastern European politicians and intellectuals, but also 150 Russian athletes and two Armenian football teams.

A huge portrait depicted the leader as a modern-day Nebuchadnezzar, mounted on a chariot and shooting down American jets with his bows and arrows.

LINK

Megalomaniacs with a Conqueror Delusion
are really into this type of imagery.
Here's Adolph Hitler doing his best Frederick Barbarossa.
Der Fuerher was so obsessed with his German forerunner,
that he made the same damn fool mistake
of attacking Russia on June 22,
and like Barbarossa and Napoleon,
he failed to take Moscow before Winter.

Hussein's rebuilt Ishtar Gate, Babylon.

Depiction of the Ishtar Gate of Ancient Babylon

by N.W. Hutchings

In 1971, UNESCO announced that it would help Iraq completely restore the ancient city of Babylon. The reconstruction be under the general supervision of Saddam Hussein, who made his appearance in 1969 as the Iraqi strongman by hanging eight Jews on the streets of Baghdad as a warning for others to hit-the-road elsewhere. In 1978, 1 led a Southwest Radio Church tour of 103 to Iraq. One of the sites we visited was Babylon. There was a four-lane highway between Baghdad and Babylon with brick factories along the way turning out bricks for this tremendous reconstruction project. On one end of the brick was the name Nebuchadnezzar, and on the other end was the name Saddam Hussein who, then and now, envisions himself as a modern Nebuchadnezzar to restore the glory that was once Babylon's.

LINK

Saddam hiding weapons in Babylon?
February 25, 1998

German newspapers today published new disclosures on Iraq's military capabilities. The daily Bild reported that Saddam Hussein has hidden a large supply of nerve gas and biological weapons beneath the ruins of ancient Babylon, on the assumption that the U.S. would not dare to bomb the archaeological and historical site.

LINK

"Babylon shall become a heap,
A dwelling place for jackals,
An astonishment and a hissing,
Without an inhabitant."

Jeremiah 51:37.

Statue of Saddam Hussein

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Ozymandias

I met a traveler from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed.

And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"

Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

Percy Bysshe Shelley ~ 1818

"…Zionism has been planning for the domination of the world since its well-known conference it convened in Basle in 1897. Ever since, it has been working in this direction. It has scored successes you can feel by controlling finance, media and commerce centres in your countries and whoever rules in your name, here and there, in decision-making centres. But its domination is not yet fulfilled to have its will absolute and final. This could only be feasible when two heavenly faiths upheld by the biggest bloc in the world are thrown into conflict. Otherwise, Zionism would be denied the accomplishment of all its ambitions. The masterminds of Zionism are, therefore, working for a clash between Christianity and Islam on the assumption that this, and only this, could secure the chance to dominate the world…"

Saddam Hussein, October 30, 2001

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To: Sabertooth
No, he is just a blowhard, as well as a murderous thug.
41 posted on 10/31/2001 8:25:31 PM PST by JasonC
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To: Sabertooth; jmurphy4413; maica; FITZ; Manny Festo; Lent; patent; rebdov; AGAviator; boris...
Really a first rate personality study, thanks for your efforts, I am really getting an education.

I wonder how many of our boys in foggy bottom and up the river know any of these factors which may be driving history?

42 posted on 10/31/2001 8:32:53 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Sabertooth
Good Post. It jogged my memory of an article I cut out for a history project during college - which I just found. The April 19, 1989 edition of the Minneapolis Star Tribune had an article titled "Babylon restoration helps Hussein build his case." Basically the article laid out two years prior to the Gulf War that this guy viewed himself as the 2nd coming of Nebuchadnezzar and was rebuilding the ancient sites throughout the country.

The interesting paragraph in the article both in light of history and the present is this:

"But Hussein's glorification of ancient Babylon is disturbing to his neighbors, diplomats say. For the king whose palace he is rebuilding ruled an empire from the Persian Gulf to the Mediterranean, embracing what now are Kuwait, Syria, Jordan, Israel and parts of Saudia Arabia."

Boy, you can't swing a dead cat in the Middle East without hitting some nutcase claiming to be some past or present biblical character.

43 posted on 10/31/2001 8:36:31 PM PST by Dan C
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To: Victoria Delsoul
"He has believed for many years that he belongs up there in the pantheon of great socialist leaders: Mao Tse-tung, Castro, Tito. But until the Gulf crisis, he had been overlooked."

Where do they get this stuff?

They're only looking at part of the picture because Saddam does have a communist intellectual foundation. But, though he came to power in the 70s as a client of Leonid Brezhnev, Stalin was his idol.

he coincidences of the appearance of the pics of Hussein with the British boy and of Stalin in the poster in the article above are not simply by chance. That whole thing was Hussein's publicity stunt. He had control of the cameras and the angles.

Check it out... the boy with Saddam has the same haircut as the boy with the violin in the poster of Stalin!

But Hussein's Obsession with Nebuchadnezzar is paramount.


44 posted on 10/31/2001 9:32:55 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
No! He's not, because there is no such thing as reincarnation. Also, the Bible is quite clear - "it is appointed ONCE for a man to die". If you can only die once, then you certainly cannot live again.

You only get ONE opportunity to choose Jesus - that's why you can only die one time!!

However, Saddam does believe he is the King of Babylon!

45 posted on 10/31/2001 9:38:17 PM PST by Sueann
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To: Sabertooth
"Scourges of God" seems to be a common career path for mid-easterners of all descriptions.

Sand between their toes must make them mean or something. ;^)

46 posted on 10/31/2001 9:48:38 PM PST by headsonpikes
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To: Sabertooth
I think you have understood Saddam Hussien's personality, there are questions that we still do not have answered. What is his son like? What are the implications of his meglomania interacting with the meglomania of Ossama? I expect there would be a period of extreme cooperation sort of like Il Duce and the Furher.Saddam is getting older and we have no info on his physical health how will that affect things?

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

47 posted on 11/01/2001 4:54:25 AM PST by harpseal
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To: scan59
fyi
48 posted on 11/01/2001 5:42:40 AM PST by babyfreep
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To: Sabertooth; 2sheep; Jeremiah Jr
Daniel 3:1 Nebuchadnezzar the king made an image of gold, whose height was threescore cubits, and the breadth thereof six cubits: he set it up in the plain of Dura, in the province of Babylon.

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One important thing about statues [Daniel 2:31] is you can't have the head and shoulders in one place, [say Babylon] and it's legs and feet in another. [say Rome/Europe] - Jeremiah Jr

Easton's Dictionary

Dura. the circle, the plain near Babylon in which Nebuchadnezzar set up a golden image, mentioned in Dan. 3:1. The place still retains its ancient name. On one of its many mounds the pedestal of what must have been a colossal statue has been found. It has been supposed to be that of the golden image.

Al Daura is located just south of Baghdad. Same place?

Google search Daura + nuclear reactor + Israel

Google search Daura + Baghdad + gulf war

 


Daniel 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.

I wonder who will replace Saddam?

49 posted on 11/01/2001 5:56:39 AM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Dan C
Boy, you can't swing a dead cat in the Middle East without hitting some nutcase claiming to be some past or present biblical character.

Or future Koranic character...

   Black Flags of Islam   

Portents of the Imam al-Mahdi, the Moslems' prophesied deliverer of Jerusalem?

Click on the flags


50 posted on 11/01/2001 6:34:04 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Huge news on the Black Flags of Islam...

The flags read: "There is no God but God and Mohammed is the messenger of God."

Bin Laden:
World Divided under Two Banners:
Christian Banner Headed by Bush and Islamic Banner

Bin Laden Urges Pakistanis to Defend Islam -Jazeera
Muhammad said: "If you see the black flags coming from Khurasan (Afghanistan),
join that army, even if you have to crawl over ice,
for that is the army of the Imam al-Mahdi
and no one can stop that army until it reaches Jerusalem."


51 posted on 11/01/2001 8:19:49 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
People don't want to hear this stuff. We have been told that islam is just another peaceful religion worshiping the same G_D that we do.

Nothing to see here, move along

< /sarcasm >

52 posted on 11/01/2001 12:26:52 PM PST by beowolf
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To: Thinkin' Gal; Lent; 2sheep
Saddam is nothing...

But I have a question for youse guys???

Daniel 10


Vision of the Glorious Man


Daniel's Vision by the Great River
1 In the third year of Cyrus king of Persia a message was revealed to Daniel, whose name was called Belteshazzar. The message was true, but the appointed time was long; and he understood the message, and had understanding of the vision. 2In those days I, Daniel, was mourning three full weeks. 3I ate no pleasant food, no meat or wine came into my mouth, nor did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled.
4Now on the twenty-fourth day of the first month, as I was by the side of the great river, that is, the Tigris, 5I lifted my eyes and looked, and behold, a certain man clothed in linen, whose waist was girded with gold of Uphaz! 6His body was like beryl, his face like the appearance of lightning, his eyes like torches of fire, his arms and feet like burnished bronze in color, and the sound of his words like the voice of a multitude.
7And I, Daniel, alone saw the vision, for the men who were with me did not see the vision; but a great terror fell upon them, so that they fled to hide themselves. 8Therefore I was left alone when I saw this great vision, and no strength remained in me; for my vigor was turned to frailty in me, and I retained no strength. 9Yet I heard the sound of his words; and while I heard the sound of his words I was in a deep sleep on my face, with my face to the ground.


Prophecies Concerning Persia and Greece
10 Suddenly, a hand touched me, which made me tremble on my knees and on the palms of my hands. 11And he said to me, "O Daniel, man greatly beloved, understand the words that I speak to you, and stand upright, for I have now been sent to you." While he was speaking this word to me, I stood trembling.
12Then he said to me, "Do not fear, Daniel, for from the first day that you set your heart to understand, and to humble yourself before your God, your words were heard; and I have come because of your words. 13But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me twenty-one days; and behold, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, for I had been left alone there with the kings of Persia. 14Now I have come to make you understand what will happen to your people in the latter days, for the vision refers to many days yet to come."
15When he had spoken such words to me, I turned my face toward the ground and became speechless. 16And suddenly, one having the likeness of the sons of men touched my lips; then I opened my mouth and spoke, saying to him who stood before me, "My lord, because of the vision my sorrows have overwhelmed me, and I have retained no strength. 17For how can this servant of my lord talk with you, my lord? As for me, no strength remains in me now, nor is any breath left in me."
18Then again, the one having the likeness of a man touched me and strengthened me. 19And he said, "O man greatly beloved, fear not! Peace be to you; be strong, yes, be strong!"
So when he spoke to me I was strengthened, and said, "Let my lord speak, for you have strengthened me."
20Then he said, "Do you know why I have come to you? And now I must return to fight with the prince of Persia; and when I have gone forth, indeed the prince of Greece will come. 21But I will tell you what is noted in the Scripture of Truth. (No one upholds me against these, except Michael your prince.

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Who is this guy?
Note the amazingly similar description in Revelation 1!

53 posted on 11/01/2001 2:19:10 PM PST by Jeremiah Jr
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To: Jeremiah Jr
Saddam is nothing...

Aha! But...

... the [oil] well is everything.

About those 7 stars... are they sisters?

Revelation 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.

The Torah sages wrote that Hashem "took two stars away from KIMAH and brought the flood!"

54 posted on 11/01/2001 3:36:01 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Sabertooth
What a nut case he is! BTTT!!!!
58 posted on 11/17/2001 9:44:22 PM PST by Bradís Gramma
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To: Thinkin' Gal
I wonder who will replace Saddam?

From what I have heard, he has put the nation into the trust of his two sons (Udai, can't remember the name of the other) in the event of his death.
59 posted on 12/30/2001 8:07:47 AM PST by markn
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To: Sabertooth
Habbakuk 1:5-7"[5] Behold ye among the heathen, and regard, and wonder marvellously: for I will work a work in your days, which ye will not believe, though it be told you.

[6] For, lo, I raise up the Chaldeans, that bitter and hasty nation, which shall march through the breadth of the land, to possess the dwellingplaces that are not theirs.

[7] They are terrible and dreadful: their judgment and their dignity shall proceed of themselves.

Chaldea is southern Iraq.

There is evidence in the Bible that Nebuchadnezzar will return in a "ressurected" body, to use scriptural terminology. Saddam is not Nebuchadnezzar, but he is preparing the way for Nebuchadnezzar's return as the antchrist.

Revelation 17:10,11"[10] And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. [11] And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition."

The beast was. Now he is not(dead). But he is coming. He is the eighth king(future) and is of the seven kings(past) with the name of blasphemy.

Saddam does not prosper in his reign, so he is not Nebuchadnezzar. He is the leader who will stumble, fall and not be found IMO.

Daniel 11"[19] Then he shall turn his face toward the fort of his own land: but he shall stumble and fall, and not be found."

Saddam was quoted on CNN in 1990 or '91 saying that if he was defeated "you won't even get one piece of my finger" to the U.S. So eventually Saddam will be defeated, though it will be an awful battle where many shall fall, according to Daniel.

[20]"Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle."

The interim ruler raises taxes and dies after a short time. [21]"And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries." Then comes the vile person, who is Nebuchadnezzar in his resurrected body.

Daniel 4"[36] At the same time my reason returned unto me; and for the glory of my kingdom, mine honour and brightness returned unto me; and my counsellers and my lords sought unto me; and I was established in my kingdom, and excellent majesty was added unto me." "[37]Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise and extol and honour the King of heaven, all whose works are truth, and his ways judgment: and those that walk in pride he is able to abase."

Nebuchadnezzar recognized the God of heaven(and God revealed himself to Neb on several occasions). However, there is no record of repentance on behalf of Nebuchadnezzar though God dealt with him. Had Nebuchadnezzar repented he would have returned the vessels to the temple that he had stolen and would have allowed the Jews to worship at the temple. So Nebuchadnezzar died wickedly. And he shall return wickedly.

I realize that there are many opposing views on Bible prophecy, but I think you hit on something very interesting here. I hope you don't mind me sharing a bit of what I've been studying for about the last seven years. :)

Freeregards

60 posted on 08/05/2002 7:08:02 AM PDT by supercalifragilistic
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