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To: Balto_Boy
The question is whether Osama bin Laden was in the Balkans. His organization was, but there have been no credible reports that he himself was ever in either Bosnia or Kosovo, and his organization hasn't been responsible for anything of note in the Balkans - Britain is a far better place to look for Bin Laden hosting culpability.

Lastly, unlike true Mujahadeen, the majority of Muslims in the Balkans don't want anything to do with Sharia, and would be expelled or executed for heresy (wow, what irony) as soon as they came under any sort of fundamentalist islamic state - the fighting in the Balkans was never about religion as much as it was a simple power struggle cloaked under a religious vestment. Serbia has Muslims living peacefully inside its' borders, but they never posed a political threat to Milosevic, ergo, they were allowed to stay - not so the non-Serbs living in Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo who threatened Milosevic's power.

39 posted on 11/01/2001 3:39:07 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
"Serbia has Muslims living peacefully inside its' borders, but they never posed a political threat to Milosevic, ergo, they were allowed to stay - not so the non-Serbs living in Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo who threatened Milosevic's power."

Or maybe it was the Croats, Bosnian Muslims, and Albanians who saw Serbs as threats to their territories' independence.

Croats, Muslims, and Albanians were killing Serbs from the very beginning - even before the beginnings of these wars. Serbs were being discriminated against and kicked out of their jobs in Croatia, for instance.

That is why the first refugees in these wars were Serbs from Croatia. I believe the grand total number of Serbs who left Croatia during the '90's is over 600,000.

It is Croatia's demographic picture which seems to have been most permanently changed in the recent Balkan wars - its population was 12% Serb in 1991, but now is supposedly only 2-3%.

42 posted on 11/01/2001 5:31:14 PM PST by joan
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To: Hoplite; Balto_Boy
...his [bin Laden] organization hasn't been responsible for anything of note in the Balkans.

You really believe this?

44 posted on 11/01/2001 5:36:33 PM PST by F-117A
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To: Hoplite
“Lastly, unlike true Mujahadeen, the majority of Muslims in the Balkans don't want anything to do with Sharia, and would be expelled or executed for heresy (wow, what irony) as soon as they came under any sort of fundamentalist islamic state - the fighting in the Balkans was never about religion as much as it was a simple power struggle cloaked under a religious vestment.”

Maybe the majority of Muslims don’t want anything to do with Sharia, but there are plenty of radical Islamists among the homegrown Muslims. Alija is a Fundamentalist and so is his party.

http://www.senate.gov/~rpc/releases/1997/iran.htm

3. The Radical Islamic Character of the Sarajevo Regime (page 8): Underlying the Clinton Administration's misguided green light policy is a complete misreading of its main beneficiary, the Bosnian Muslim government of Alija Izetbegovic. Rather than being the tolerant, multiethnic democratic government it pretends to be, there is clear evidence that the ruling circle of Izetbegovic's party, the Party of Democratic Action (SDA), has long been guided by the principles of radical Islam. This Islamist orientation is illustrated by profiles of three important officials, including President Izetbegovic himself; the progressive Islamization of the Bosnian army, including creation of native Bosnian mujahedin units; credible claims that major atrocities against civilians in Sarajevo were staged for propaganda purposes by operatives of the Izetbegovic government; and suppression of enemies, both non-Muslim and Muslim.

53 posted on 11/02/2001 4:12:28 AM PST by joan
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To: Hoplite
The question is whether Osama bin Laden was in the Balkans.

I see your point. Literally, maybe not, but in influence, definitely.

...the fighting in the Balkans was never about religion as much as it was a simple power struggle cloaked under a religious vestment.

Is that so uncommon?

Serbia has Muslims living peacefully inside its' borders, but they never posed a political threat to Milosevic, ergo, they were allowed to stay - not so the non-Serbs living in Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo who threatened Milosevic's power.

I don't know about Croatia or Bosnia, but the separatists in Kosovo were at it long before Milo had any power to threaten.

57 posted on 11/02/2001 12:48:05 PM PST by Balto_Boy
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