The Danger Within: Militant Islam in America Commentary November 2001

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[Deep_6]

re:
"...Refuse to spend your money at Arab-owned businesses
or with businesses that hire them...."

Very feasible and well within all Constitutional rights.

However, you'll be doing away with:
90% of taxi cab companies,
80% gas station/convenience stores
100% of medical services/hospitals
100% of the electronic industry
100% of colleges
99% of auto industry

ahh.... you get the idea?

 

[flamefront]

Political pressure for such relocation grew quickly. ...

Just stay tuned, such quick change can happen again. The unthinkable will happen soon if there is the mentioned further attack.

That the attacks were suicidal is only the tip of the iceburg the Islamists are heading for on their Titanic. Muck with the world economy and suffer ever worse fate as goods stop flowing to Muslims.

the "conquer America" agenda

Now let us all be very aware of what Sedition really means ...
"incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority"

Beware. This is not just academic debating.

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BTW along these line also be aware that

Action Alert!

BUSH PUTTING PRESSURE ON CONGRESS TO PASS AMNESTY PROVISION!!!

STOP HIM!!!!

11/01/01

245 I -- Allows illegal aliens to pay $1,000 and stay in the U.S. and try to become legal.

IT IS BAD. A HUGE NATIONAL SECURITY RISK ­ THERE ARE NO BACKGROUND CHECKS!!!

CALL THE WHITE HOUSE IMMEDIATELY

202-456-1414

AND/OR SEND A FAX

FAX NO. 202-456-2461

DEMAND THAT BUSH STOP PRESSURING CONGRESS TO INCLUDE 245 I IN THE JUSTICE AND STATE DEPARTMENT APPROPRIATIONS BILLS!!!

An extension of 245(i) WOULD PUT OUR COUNTRY AT GREAT RISK! HOW DARE THE PRESIDENT EVEN CONSIDER THIS? WHEN WILL THIS MADNESS END?!

TO SEND A FAX FREE OF PHONE CHARGES,

Go to www.NumbersUSA.com and click on FAX CONGRESS FREE to send a fax to President Bush asking him to stop pressuring the conferees for an extension. You can also send a fax to the conferees asking them to resist any extension of Section 245(i).

[Deep_6]

For a few, you wish to penalize the many.

Real democratic policy; real "freedom" you espouse.
It is your right to do so.

But you should be as ashamed of yourself as some of us
are of you, that you are here projecting that bile.

 

[flamefront]

Excuse me? The only bile I wish to expurge would be the Reconquista crowd who share the same seditionist demeanor as the Al Qaeda. Most immigrants are good citizens, it is the few that must be screened appropriately to be prevented from doing us all harm. Extending 245(i) would be a Clintonesque attempt at making it easy for seditionists to gain citizenship. That's all.

[flamefront]

Sleepers come in a number of forms, Reconquista is one of them, al Qaeda is another.

[kimosabe31]

Say, isn't that about the same agenda the "Religious Right" has for America?

What kind of assh&*e are you deep_6?? The religious right has no intention of punishing critics of islam nor does the religious right highjack commercial airliners filled with passengers and use them as cruise missiles against civilian targets.

Seems as though some of you stupid heathen assh%$es just can't see the forest for the trees. Regards...religious right wing extremist.

[free100]

How very Christian of you.

[harpseal]

Alas I can not claim to be a good christian mere a cranky old SOB who gets mad as hell when his country is attacked. Like I said everyone has a right to be offended at anything and everyone has a right to say what they feel like as long as they do not incite to immediate violence or advocate the violent overthrow of the US government or engage in speech that activly promotes the enemy's cause in making war or the USA. See the fire in a crowded theater rule of thumb.

When I have been offended by some crap spewed by some anti-american low life, no one has given a rats behind. If some Muslimn has a persecution complex that is not my problem it is theirs and it shall really be theirs if they decide to exceed the bounds of verbal disagreement with the sentiments I express.

Above I stated my reasons for displaying these sentiments. You may well disagree that is your perogative. I shall be courteous enough to read any disagreement you wish but I wish you would specify why you think I should not display the above.

[Deep_6]

Suffering from a little confusion between
"agenda" and "terrorism", are you?

I suggest you read text printed, not imagined.

 

[maestro]

O.K.,.........Do you or anybody 'out there' in "answerland" know what this business/meaning is
re: Muslim (cult) BODY SHAVING ???? before they attack?????

[cgbg]

This is an excellent and very informative post.

Just as the Communists were often supported by a variety of fellow-traveler and liberal organizations and in some other cases they subverted those organizations so too the relationship between radical Muslims and "moderate" ones is a very interesting one.

I would not spend five seconds worrying about radicalizing the moderate Muslims.

I would spend many hours trying to figure out the best way to decouple them from the rest of society.

[Deep_6]

re:
"....Excuse me? The only bile I wish to expurge would be the
Reconquista crowd who share the same seditionist demeanor
as the Al Qaeda......."

Please allow me to present exactly what President Bush
is in favor of [and what you are in opposition to],
in his own words:

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Text of letter from President Bush to Congressional leaders
THE WHITE HOUSE
May 1, 2001

Dear Mr. Speaker: (Dear Mr. Leader:)

I am a strong proponent of government policies that recognize the importance of families and that help to strengthen them. To the extent possible, I believe that our immigration policies should reflect that philosophy. That is why I support legislation to extend the window created under section 245(i) of the Immigration and Nationality Act during which qualified immigrants may obtain legal residence in the United States without being forced to first leave the country and their families for several years.

According to agency estimates, there are more than 500,000 undocumented immigrants in the country who are eligible to become legal permanent residents, primarily because of their family relationship with a citizen or legal permanent resident. However, the law generally requires them to go back to their home country to obtain a visa, and once they do so, they are barred from returning to the United States for up to 10 years. Many choose to risk remaining here illegally rather than to be separated from their families for those many years. This issue has been the subject of discussion in the Working Group that Attorney General Ashcroft and Secretary of State Powell co-chair with officials of the Mexican government, and should be addressed to ensure a more orderly, legal, and humane migration flow between our countries.

I encourage the Congress to consider whether there was adequate time for persons eligible under section 245(i) to apply for adjustment of status before the filing deadline expired yesterday. Information indicates an estimated 200,000 were eligible to file but did not meet the deadline. Preliminary reports suggest that many applicants were unable to complete their paperwork in time, due in part to the fact that the rules explaining how the provision would be applied were not issued until late March. It remains in our national interest to legitimize those resident immigrants, eligible for legal status, and to welcome them as full participants of our society. But we will only be able to do this if the path to legalization encourages family reunification. For this reason, I would support legislation that temporarily extends the recently expired April 30, 2001, filing deadline, while maintaining the requirement that the applicant was physically present in the United States on December 21, 2000.

I look forward to working with you on this important legislation.

 

Sincerely,

GEORGE W. BUSH

 

(ref: http://www.ins.usdoj.gov/graphics/bushlett.htm)

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Now please again, give us some details regarding
how this bill is even remotely close to an Al Qaeda
agenda?

Thanks

(we certainly have our share of Bush-bashers lately,
don't we, folks?)

[flamefront]

Yes, that was the May Day agenda.

Today Newsweek points out too:

Now, as the "war on terrorism pushes domestic issues to the back burner, the Bush-Kennedy team is still going strong, turning its attention to bioterrorism, immigration, and the economy." Kennedy said, "Working with Bush isn't sacrificing principle, it's trying to find common ground."

So what's cooking in 245(i)? Families getting together sounds just too nice. Consider the ease with which many seditionists seeking permanent citizenship may take advantage of this:

A1. Section 245(i) allows certain persons, who have an immigrant visa immediately available but entered without inspection or otherwise violated their status and thus are ineligible to apply for adjustment of status in the United States, to apply if they pay a $1,000 penalty. The LIFE Act temporarily extends the ability to preserve eligibility for this provision of law until April 30, 2001.

Buy your citizenship? That easy?

[Deep_6]

re:
"..Do you or anybody 'out there' in "answerland" know....."

"Answerland"!  I always wanted to live there!

Although nothing specific, some information is readily
available:

"....Hair of both men and women can only be dyed with
colors other than black. Black dyeing or plucking away
white hair is considered deception about the age of a
person. The only exception is in situations of jihad when
enemies are made to believe that Muslim soldiers are
young and therefore strong....."
(ref: http://www.iiu.edu.my/medic/islmed/Lecmed/excr98.oct.html)

I suppose shaving the hair would eliminate the gray..?

It should be considered, that fighting a "shaved body" male
might be tougher than fighting a hairy one. I think if I shaved
my body, the irritation would keep me pretty PO'd all day.
Fighting mad, actually... Maybe that's their purpose? But
even if mad over the constant itch, how the hell would they
be able to aim a gun and shoot straight, with one hand in their
groin, scratching?

 Maybe Sharon Levy would know, if we could find her to ask?

 

Stay well.

Thanks

 

[Deep_6]

re:
"..Buy your citizenship? That easy?......"

Yeah, I understand your feeling with that, but in all
fairness, there's more to gaining citizenship status
than forking over the $1k.

The $1k is the penalty, not the fee for admission.
Rather than go back and not be able to apply for
10 years, they can pay the $1k and apply now.

And paying to apply does not guarantee approval.
If an applicant's background contains anything that
would prevent the applicant from being accepted,
they not only face deportation, but lose the $1k.

Bush's support for this is well found, in my opinion.
Our former scumbag president would have just
collected the $1k personally and let them camp out
in the Lincoln Bedroom.

 

Thanks

[Jerez]

Bump for later reading

[walden]

Oh nonsense. The claims that 6 million Muslims live in this country are wildly over-stated. The number is closer to 2 million, so you would have us believe that in a country of 280 million people the refusal to do business with Muslims would eliminate all of those industries? Mathematically, it just couldn't happen.

[Deep_6]

re:
"..so you would have us believe that in a country of 280
million people the refusal to do business with Muslims
would eliminate all of those industries? Mathematically,
it just couldn't happen......."

huh?

I guess you're referring to post #21 ? That was in reply
to "Cicero5" where he stated:

"...Refuse to spend your money at Arab-owned businesses
or with businesses that hire them...."

If you're going to include "businesses that hire" people
of middle east heritage, you'll be eliminating almost
all industry and businesses in this Nation.

Indeed, in that case it was mathematically understated.

Thanks.

[walden]

I didn't see the "that hire them" part-- sorry!

[Deep_6]

No prob!

And like I said to Cicero, it's a person's right
to do business with whoever they please. A boycott
is a great way to show disapproval! But it would be
as impossible to carry out as boycotting places
that carry items made in China.

It took me awhile, but I finally understood that this
world just isn't as big as I first thought, and it gets
a little smaller each day. We're either going to have
to learn to get along, or we're going to be at war
24/7/365.

It'll get old fast, you know what I mean?

 

Thanks