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Decorated Vietnam Vet Arrested Guarding War Memorial and American Flag in San Diego
Newsgroups: alt.war.vietnam ^ | 01/10/30 | SOURCE: Jaffe & Co., Inc., Strategic Media and Crisis Management

Posted on 11/03/2001 10:31:40 AM PST by B4Ranch

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Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 8:04 PM
Subject: [the-longest-war] Decorated Vietnam Vet Arrested Guarding War Memorial and American Flag in San Diego

Decorated Vietnam Vet Arrested Guarding War Memorial and American Flag in San Diego

(EXCERPT) Arrested Vet's Dog, 'TJ' Taken Away and Placed in Pound On 'Death Row' While Attorneys Battle City to Free Both

SAN DIEGO, Oct. 30 /PRNewswire/ -- The following is being issued by Jaffe & Co. Inc., Crisis Management:

Robert Thomas Northcut is a decorated Vietnam Veteran. In the years that have passed since he was blown up in a delta ambush he spent his time in and out of Veteran's hospitals.

Ten years ago he walked out of the VA hospital never to look back. He found his way to Solana Beach, California where he has lived outside, as a homeless man, never panhandling a dime.

Each day he walks the streets with his trusty German Shepherd, ``TJ,'' given to him by caring townfolks. He always stops to greet people and pat children on their heads as they pet his dog and look in wonderment at this shell of a man, forever wounded serving his country in the war in Vietnam. His Purple Heart went the way of all his belongings when he decided to stop living in a VA hospital and get out and enjoy the beauty of the California coastline with ``TJ.''

His long shaggy Australian bush coat and Crocodile Dundee hat distinguish him for the hero he is as he is seen searching in the morning shadows looking for food.

For ten years Thomas has been the street ambassador of Solana Beach.

When he heard the tragedy of ``9/11'' on his little portable radio he was instantly moved to action. He now had a purpose, a mission, a reason to reestablish his identity. He went to the little traffic island of the City which houses the stone war memorial next to the large American flag pole. He took up residence next to the Memorial, resting his head each night on it to protect it from what he felt was a possible terrorist attack. Each night he lowered the flag and each day raised it to half mast.

Neighbors brought food for him and his dog and brought him newspapers to keep up to date.

It had all come back to him....a purpose, a vision, an identity. He was now back in the line of duty. Every small part helped. His was to raise the flag and to protect the Monument.

Early one morning after he raised the flag, the workmen arrived. As he saluted, they pounded into the ground the two foot square No Trespassing sign. Moments later they called the Sheriff's department and held Thomas there until they arrived.

The city code enforcer ordered a citation to be issued for Thomas Northcut for trespassing. Thomas crumpled it into his pocket and went back to his duties, guarding the monument.

The code enforcer patiently waited for the court appearance date to pass then asked that the arrest warrant be issued.

Thomas and his dog awoke to the angry sounds of deputies as they pulled him from the ground, his hat falling by the side of the Monument and dragged him away in one direction screaming for his dog as they dragged ``TJ'' away to an animal control truck.

Thomas was handcuffed and taken to jail to await arraignment. ``TJ'' was taken to the pound where if unclaimed, he will be put to death in a matter of weeks.

This story did not take place in 1975. It was Thursday, October 26, 2001. Thomas, unable to post the bond, waited in the lockup and had to be sedated because of panic attacks which resulted from his incarceration. Meanwhile, his dog, ``TJ'' has lost his appetite longing for his owner. And the flag just sits at half mast.

``How soon we forget,'' said Sam Georges, an attorney, U.S. Air Force veteran and friend of Northcut's who is trying to get people to help for the jailed vet get released and see that he's reunited with his dog, and in the process sensitize the city. Georges is also president of the internationally famous Anthony Robbins Companies.

``It's pretty obvious that a time like this, we need to show our respect to patriotic Americans to those who have fought to protect our freedoms. Especially those who have worn the uniform of our armed forces and sacrificed for our country,'' said Stephen Jaffe, president Jaffe & Company, a crisis management communications firm in based in Los Angeles.

This morning, Jennifer Lynch, Esq., an attorney living in Vista who heard about the Northcut case from friends, appeared, pro bono, on his behalf in Superior Court. She noted that Northcut has served several days in jail for essentially protecting a Monument to those who had died defending our country during a former war. Northcut remained silent but the Judge, a distinguished veteran himself, saw the sad irony of the case and dismissed it for ``time served.''

``Now there remains only one more injustice to be corrected,'' Lynch stated, ``and that's for Thomas to be reunited with his dog, 'TJ.''' Friends of Northcut have agreed to take him to the pound where ``TJ'' is being held tomorrow. ``If the city officials and the system doesn't get in the way, Thomas and 'TJ' will be together again, greeting the folks in Solana Beach and enjoying the freedom he gave so much of himself to protect,'' Lynch added.

For further information, please contact Jennifer Lynch, Esq., +1-760-643-4113; or Sam Georges, Esq., +1-619-417-1408; or Stephen Jaffe of Jaffe & Co., Inc., +1-310-275-7327.

SOURCE: Jaffe & Co., Inc., Strategic Media and Crisis Management

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Please send Jennifer Lynch and Sam Georges a Thank you note at JLL@jllynch.com. It is people like her and Sam Georges who help us take care of our buddies. They never expect a Thank You from anyone. So show that you appreciate their help and that they care too. Just say Thanks to both of them.
1 posted on 11/03/2001 10:31:40 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: Mudboy Slim; Travis McGee; Snow Bunny; Billie; TrueBeliever9
Mud, I said I would tell you when I posted this article on it's own thread. Just keeping my word.
2 posted on 11/03/2001 10:35:39 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
Thanks for posting this.
3 posted on 11/03/2001 10:40:16 AM PST by muggs
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To: B4Ranch
On it's way!!!
4 posted on 11/03/2001 10:46:35 AM PST by Bob Evans
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To: B4Ranch; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; clamper1797
Thanks, Dave. This is just too sad for words!
5 posted on 11/03/2001 10:47:40 AM PST by AuntB
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To: B4Ranch; JohnHuang2; Snow Bunny; FallGuy; marsh2; dixiechick2000; Helen; Mama_Bear; poet...

6 posted on 11/03/2001 11:02:05 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; Jerry_M; CCWoody
Early one morning after he raised the flag, the workmen arrived. As he saluted, they pounded into the ground the two foot square No Trespassing sign. Moments later they called the Sheriff's department and held Thomas there until they arrived. The city code enforcer ordered a citation to be issued for Thomas Northcut for trespassing. Thomas crumpled it into his pocket and went back to his duties, guarding the monument.

Don't you wish we treated the traitors in our midst with such fervor?

A Navy bump!

7 posted on 11/03/2001 11:09:40 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: B4Ranch
TOMMY
by Rudyard Kipling (1865-1936)  

I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o' beer,
The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here."
The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:
O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play.

I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls,
But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls!
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside";
But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide,
The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide,
O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide.

Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, 'ow's yer soul?"
But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll.

We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints,
Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;
While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind",
But it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind,
There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
O it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind.

You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all:
We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees!

 

8 posted on 11/03/2001 11:14:42 AM PST by JCH
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To: RnMomof7
It appears it's the traitors that are running things in many communities! Sad story.
9 posted on 11/03/2001 11:18:00 AM PST by monkeywrench
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To: B4Ranch
Thanks for the post. I have sent a message of thanks to Miss Lynch.

Semper Fi!

clintonh8r, I Corps 1969-70

10 posted on 11/03/2001 11:25:32 AM PST by clintonh8r
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
I'm so glad this ended well.
11 posted on 11/03/2001 11:26:40 AM PST by swheats
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Bump
12 posted on 11/03/2001 11:30:32 AM PST by VA Advogado
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To: B4Ranch
Early one morning after he raised the flag, the workmen arrived. As he saluted, they pounded into the ground the two foot square No Trespassing sign. Moments later they called the Sheriff's department and held Thomas there until they arrived.

The city code enforcer ordered a citation to be issued for Thomas Northcut for trespassing. Thomas crumpled it into his pocket and went back to his duties, guarding the monument.

He was not doing anything wrong, so the government came along and made him a criminal.

13 posted on 11/03/2001 11:31:45 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: B4Ranch; RaceBannon
A veteran bump!!!
14 posted on 11/03/2001 11:31:49 AM PST by Dutchy
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
``Now there remains only one more injustice to be corrected,'' Lynch stated, ``and that's for Thomas to be reunited with his dog, 'TJ.'''

God bless him, i hope he gets his shepherd back. why can't these elitist bastards
let this forgotten soul continue to do what he sees as his duty. unforgivable.

He took up residence next to the Memorial,
resting his head each night on it to protect it from
what he felt was a possible terrorist attack. Each
night he lowered the flag and each day raised it
to half mast.

15 posted on 11/03/2001 11:34:54 AM PST by glock rocks
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To: B4Ranch
ALERT!!!!! I just spoke to Mr Georges on the phone. He was very happy to hear from me. HOWEVER the city workers have filed a complaint that T.J. Is a dangerous dog and may not be released! They say that since the dog has barked at them he is a danger.

Mr Georges would like us to mail, email and call the mayor ASAP.

16 posted on 11/03/2001 11:35:58 AM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: swheats
It is not over yet
17 posted on 11/03/2001 11:37:34 AM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: Dutchy
Early one morning after he raised the flag, the workmen arrived. As he saluted, they pounded into the ground the two foot square No Trespassing sign. Moments later they called the Sheriff's department and held Thomas there until they arrived

Take that damn sign down let this man free and start looking for real criminals to arrest.

18 posted on 11/03/2001 11:37:34 AM PST by Mixer
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To: B4Ranch
bump
19 posted on 11/03/2001 11:39:45 AM PST by JZoback
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To: B4Ranch
bump
20 posted on 11/03/2001 11:40:02 AM PST by JZoback
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To: B4Ranch
Early one morning after he raised the flag, the workmen arrived. As he saluted, they pounded into the ground the two foot square No Trespassing sign. Moments later they called the Sheriff's department and held Thomas there until they arrived.

Anyone know the names of the bureaucrats/politicians who gave the order to have this vet harassed by the powers of the government?

21 posted on 11/03/2001 11:40:34 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: B4Ranch

This is horsesh*t! Solana Beach in the People's Republic of Kalifornia needs to get a life! Our brother shouldn't have been persecuted like this. I am going to write to the President about this one!

23 posted on 11/03/2001 11:48:49 AM PST by Colt .45
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To: glock rocks
Thanks so much..I was looking for it. I'm calling now just in case some one may be in today
24 posted on 11/03/2001 11:49:39 AM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: Native American Female Vet
"HOWEVER the city workers have filed a complaint that T.J. Is a dangerous dog and may not be released! They say that since the dog has barked at them he is a danger."

These people seem determined to end this man and his dog. They have started a vendetta to "kill" both of them. They have started a fight. Who is going to win it?

25 posted on 11/03/2001 11:49:51 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: Don Myers
Mr Georges said he would be thrilled if we FLOODED the Mayors office
26 posted on 11/03/2001 11:53:58 AM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: Native American Female Vet
oop. solana beach, huh... can't find email addresses yet.

Thomas M. Campbell, Solana Beach Mayor
635 South Highway 101,
Solana Beach, CA 92075
Phone - (858) 720-2400
Fax - (858) 792-6513/755-1782

27 posted on 11/03/2001 11:56:58 AM PST by glock rocks
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To: B4Ranch
Thanks for posting this. What an outrage! It reminds me of the story in the Bible about the king stealing the poor man's vinyard.

PS: I wrote to thank Jennifer and Sam. Good to know there are a few stalwart souls left.

28 posted on 11/03/2001 11:57:05 AM PST by antidisestablishment
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To: muggs
It is not over yet. Please see reply # 16 and then # 22 for contact info
29 posted on 11/03/2001 12:00:01 PM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: Bob Evans
It is not over yet. Please see reply # 16 and then # 22 for contact info
30 posted on 11/03/2001 12:01:12 PM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: antidisestablishment
It is not over yet. Please see reply # 16
31 posted on 11/03/2001 12:03:55 PM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: Don Myers; Jeff Head
Who is going to win it?

WE ARE!

32 posted on 11/03/2001 12:04:01 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: B4Ranch; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
B4Ranch,thank you for posting this,and thanks for the heads up 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub.

Jennifer Lynch, Thank you for representing Mr. Northcut. If you read this, please give him the following message.

Dear Mr. Northcut,

I salute you sir! You should be given back your dog immediately, and receive a public apology. They should also allow you to return to your post. How dare they treat you this way! For what? Guarding a War Memorial, and raising and lowering our flag? SHAME ON THEM! Thank you sir for your contribution to our country, May God Bless You!

Warmest Regards,
BIS
33 posted on 11/03/2001 12:06:23 PM PST by firewalk
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To: lowbridge
It is not over yet. Please see reply # 16 and then # 27 for contact info
34 posted on 11/03/2001 12:07:14 PM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: Native American Female Vet

Got to kick some butt. Has the dog bit anyone? I would bark at these mean folks too.

35 posted on 11/03/2001 12:07:30 PM PST by swheats
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To: McGavin999
I sent an email to the mayor. I guess that a little physical presence protesting this thing would be good.
36 posted on 11/03/2001 12:08:56 PM PST by Don Myers
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To: Native American Female Vet
Mr Georges said he would be thrilled if we FLOODED the Mayors office

Then that's what we have to do! I will.
37 posted on 11/03/2001 12:09:01 PM PST by firewalk
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To: swheats
He said the dog had not hurt anyone and only barked. He thinks the Mayor or one of his jerks was behind the complaint
38 posted on 11/03/2001 12:10:44 PM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: Native American Female Vet
"Mr Georges said he would be thrilled if we FLOODED the Mayors office"

I sent in my email.

39 posted on 11/03/2001 12:11:05 PM PST by Don Myers
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To: AuntB
It is not over yet. Please see reply # 16 and then # 27 for contact info
40 posted on 11/03/2001 12:12:10 PM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: lowbridge
"He was not doing anything wrong, so the government came along and made him a criminal."

well in most jurisdictions a "no trespass" order on public land (land or places generally open to the public) must come from someone authorized to give the order, usually meaning a law enforcement officer or someone charged with administering the land. i've never known this to be some city worker.

the order must have a reasonable basis (usually unlawful or disruptive conduct, disruptive meaning behavior that goes against the purpose of the place), and it must have a clear ending date. based on what is in the news story i doubt a criminal trespass conviction would stand against this person on appeal.

41 posted on 11/03/2001 12:13:39 PM PST by qlauraq
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To: BeforeISleep
It is not over yet. Please see reply # 16 and then # 27 for contact info
42 posted on 11/03/2001 12:14:53 PM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: Native American Female Vet
city of san diego animal control covers salana beach... here's their website and administrators info

san diego animal control

43 posted on 11/03/2001 12:14:53 PM PST by glock rocks
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To: qlauraq
It is not over yet. Please see reply # 16 and then # 27 for contact info
44 posted on 11/03/2001 12:17:28 PM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: B4Ranch
we could have used him here recently when some f**kwads stole about 30 flags from the military cemetary.

i'd just love to have seen the shepherd tearing some new @$$holes!!

45 posted on 11/03/2001 12:18:58 PM PST by rockfish59
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
It is not over yet. Please see reply # 16 and then # 27 for contact info
46 posted on 11/03/2001 12:19:26 PM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: B4Ranch
The slumbags in Calif. are consistent UNAMERICAN except for a few heroes like this Vet and the Lawyer that took up his case. I am not too sure the USA would not be better off with Calif. in the hands of Red China, then maybe those folks out there would gain some sense of honor, when they had no freedom.
47 posted on 11/03/2001 12:19:56 PM PST by Texbob
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To: RnMomof7
It is not over yet. Please see reply # 16 and then # 27 for contact info
48 posted on 11/03/2001 12:20:45 PM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: JCH
It is not over yet. Please see reply # 16 and then # 27 for contact info
50 posted on 11/03/2001 12:22:03 PM PST by Native American Female Vet
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