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1 posted on 11/03/2001 11:06:55 AM PST by ouroboros
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2 posted on 11/03/2001 11:07:52 AM PST by ouroboros
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Southerners were considered by their Northern brethern-and the record!- as even more prone to violence, whether it be against British and Indians, themselves, or the North. This is reasonable considering a heavy Scottish background-it was commonly said that the savage Scots engaged in little more than fighting, with brief forrays into the raising of cattle. I think that the larger spaces of the South saved us from excessive infighting...at any rate, the warrior spirit would shine forth in the Civil War, perhaps best expressed in the immortal "rebel yell" which Yankees and foreign observers described as something never heard before or since. The tenacious butternut's fight, where he would regularly be opposite a force three, four times his in rank, and still hold his ground or, in some battles, route his enemy entirely, attests to a true fighting spirit. I would hold that it was only the North's vastly superior numbers that gave it victory-not to detract from the acts of bravery and heroism some Yankees commited.
3 posted on 11/03/2001 11:19:25 AM PST by Cleburne
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While serving in the military does not guarantee that you will be an honorable president, it is a pretty good predictor. The presidents who did the most harm to our American ideals never served - Wilson, FDR, and Clinton.


5 posted on 11/03/2001 11:33:55 AM PST by mcollins
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Roger McGrath is great. Chronicles is too.
6 posted on 11/03/2001 12:32:14 PM PST by Iris7
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I did not know that about President Reagan. The press always neglected to mention that he volunteered for combat and refused a promotion. It figures.

Chronicles is having military troubles of their own. They've celebrated the military virtues but been very critical of the US "Leviathan state" and military ventures. Victor Davis Hanson, Chronicles's most passionate defender of military virtue has gone over to National Review and the interventionist camp in an extreme way. I'd imagine that the other writers at Chronicles are having some trouble figuring out what to do now (It's become impossible to get the magazine in my area).

It's not so easy to decide between the established military and judicial power and the anarchic, rebellious spirit of the highlanders and borderers. State power does infringe individual rights and may bring tyranny in the end, but where order and justice aren't regulated, one may be at peril from brigands or vendettas. One may regret the standardization and homogenization and slackening of fiber that results from subjecting all disputes to police and courts, but it's natural for those living with bandits and feuds to seek to guarantee their security and resolve their problems in a more ordered fashion. Things are also complicated by the fact that the most independent-minded and rebellious of citizens, may bring all the energy and spiritedness that they had directed against centralized authority and its tentacles to the defense of their country when it's attacked.

7 posted on 11/03/2001 12:35:43 PM PST by x
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Aw, Shucks!


8 posted on 11/03/2001 12:40:46 PM PST by shuckmaster
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I disagree. War is not endemic to this Country. Sure we fought the Indians and the British. But that was done largely through Miltias and frontiersmen. A large standing army only came about in WWI. And even after that is was disbanded. Then - WWII happened and we never got rid of it. The business of America is Business- not war. We best spread our example through our own capitalist economy. One side note though- The US must spare no expense in destroying anyone even remotely connected to the 9/11 attacks. I don't care if someone sold Osama a battery to listen to his AM radio- kill him and his family.
13 posted on 11/03/2001 1:35:31 PM PST by Burkeman1
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Good post. One small problem

In World War II, he rose to Supreme Allied Commander. When prevailed upon by the Republican party to run for the presidency, he acquiesced and won by a landslide in 1952. Despite a lackluster performance in office, he was reelected by an even greater majority in 1956.

The author shold have dug a little deeper before calling Ike lackluster.

17 posted on 11/03/2001 3:58:31 PM PST by Valin
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Part of the debate over Al Gore and George W. Bush focused on their service records...
One would think that current events would have inspired the writing of this article in light of this section. Odd that this article doesn't come out until "almost a year" after it is over with.
Keeping the good stuff back? Odd indeed!
22 posted on 11/03/2001 7:20:28 PM PST by philman_36
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