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Decorated Vietnam Vet Arrested Guarding War Memorial and American Flag in San Diego(#2)
Newsgroups: alt.war.vietnam ^ | 01/10/30 | SOURCE: Jaffe & Co., Inc., Strategic Media and Crisis Management

Posted on 11/04/2001 5:54:46 AM PST by B4Ranch

Robert Thomas Northcut is a decorated Vietnam Veteran. In the years that have passed since he was blown up in a delta ambush he spent his time in and out of Veteran's hospitals.

Ten years ago he walked out of the VA hospital never to look back. He found his way to Solana Beach, California where he has lived outside, as a homeless man, never panhandling a dime.

Each day he walks the streets with his trusty German Shepherd, ``TJ,'' given to him by caring townfolks. He always stops to greet people and pat children on their heads as they pet his dog and look in wonderment at this shell of a man, forever wounded serving his country in the war in Vietnam. His Purple Heart went the way of all his belongings when he decided to stop living in a VA hospital and get out and enjoy the beauty of the California coastline with ``TJ.''

His long shaggy Australian bush coat and Crocodile Dundee hat distinguish him for the hero he is as he is seen searching in the morning shadows looking for food.

For ten years Thomas has been the street ambassador of Solana Beach.

When he heard the tragedy of ``9/11'' on his little portable radio he was instantly moved to action. He now had a purpose, a mission, a reason to reestablish his identity. He went to the little traffic island of the City which houses the stone war memorial next to the large American flag pole. He took up residence next to the Memorial, resting his head each night on it to protect it from what he felt was a possible terrorist attack. Each night he lowered the flag and each day raised it to half mast.

Neighbors brought food for him and his dog and brought him newspapers to keep up to date.

It had all come back to him....a purpose, a vision, an identity. He was now back in the line of duty. Every small part helped. His was to raise the flag and to protect the Monument.

Early one morning after he raised the flag, the workmen arrived. As he saluted, they pounded into the ground the two foot square No Trespassing sign. Moments later they called the Sheriff's department and held Thomas there until they arrived.

The city code enforcer ordered a citation to be issued for Thomas Northcut for trespassing. Thomas crumpled it into his pocket and went back to his duties, guarding the monument.

The code enforcer patiently waited for the court appearance date to pass then asked that the arrest warrant be issued.

Thomas and his dog awoke to the angry sounds of deputies as they pulled him from the ground, his hat falling by the side of the Monument and dragged him away in one direction screaming for his dog as they dragged ``TJ'' away to an animal control truck.

Thomas was handcuffed and taken to jail to await arraignment. ``TJ'' was taken to the pound where if unclaimed, he will be put to death in a matter of weeks.

This story did not take place in 1975. It was Thursday, October 26, 2001. Thomas, unable to post the bond, waited in the lockup and had to be sedated because of panic attacks which resulted from his incarceration. Meanwhile, his dog, ``TJ'' has lost his appetite longing for his owner. And the flag just sits at half mast.

``How soon we forget,'' said Sam Georges, an attorney, U.S. Air Force veteran and friend of Northcut's who is trying to get people to help for the jailed vet get released and see that he's reunited with his dog, and in the process sensitize the city. Georges is also president of the internationally famous Anthony Robbins Companies.

``It's pretty obvious that a time like this, we need to show our respect to patriotic Americans to those who have fought to protect our freedoms. Especially those who have worn the uniform of our armed forces and sacrificed for our country,'' said Stephen Jaffe, president Jaffe & Company, a crisis management communications firm in based in Los Angeles.

This morning, Jennifer Lynch, Esq., an attorney living in Vista who heard about the Northcut case from friends, appeared, pro bono, on his behalf in Superior Court. She noted that Northcut has served several days in jail for essentially protecting a Monument to those who had died defending our country during a former war. Northcut remained silent but the Judge, a distinguished veteran himself, saw the sad irony of the case and dismissed it for ``time served.''

``Now there remains only one more injustice to be corrected,'' Lynch stated, ``and that's for Thomas to be reunited with his dog, 'TJ.''' Friends of Northcut have agreed to take him to the pound where ``TJ'' is being held tomorrow. ``If the city officials and the system doesn't get in the way, Thomas and 'TJ' will be together again, greeting the folks in Solana Beach and enjoying the freedom he gave so much of himself to protect,'' Lynch added.

For further information, please contact Jennifer Lynch, Esq., +1-760-643-4113; or Sam Georges, Esq., +1-619-417-1408; or Stephen Jaffe of Jaffe & Co., Inc., +1-310-275-7327.

SOURCE: Jaffe & Co., Inc., Strategic Media and Crisis Management

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/011030/latu141_1.html


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Please send Jennifer Lynch and Sam Georges a Thank you note at JLL@jllynch.com. It is people like her and Sam Georges who help us take care of our buddies. They never expect a Thank You from anyone. So show that you appreciate their help and that they care too. Just say Thanks to both of them.
1 posted on 11/04/2001 5:54:46 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Attention:

Click here to send a message to the City without messing with their stupid website

You'll be glad you did.

2 posted on 11/04/2001 5:57:02 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
The city code enforcer just doesn't like knowing that a "scraggly bum" is a bigger man than he is.
4 posted on 11/04/2001 6:05:27 AM PST by Bogey78O
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To: Native American Female Vet
(From the Original Post)
ALERT!!!!! I just spoke to Mr Georges on the phone. He was very happy to hear from me. HOWEVER the city workers have filed a complaint that T.J. Is a dangerous dog and may not be released! They say that since the dog has barked at them he is a danger.

Mr Georges would like us to mail, email and call the mayor ASAP.

16 posted on 11/3/01 12:35 PM Pacific by Native American Female Vet

5 posted on 11/04/2001 6:10:44 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
"... the city workers have filed a complaint that T.J. is a dangerous dog ..."

We all know who/whom the REAL danger is/are, don't we?

6 posted on 11/04/2001 6:21:45 AM PST by moonman
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To: B4Ranch
I would include Congressman Randy "Duke" Cunningham on your list also. He represents an adjoining district but he can be counted upon to get to the bottom of this and provide needed support to any veteran if warranted. He will not send a reply to anyone outside of the 51st Ca. District but this link can be utilized to reach him:

Write to Congressman Cunningham

7 posted on 11/04/2001 6:33:08 AM PST by Scuttlebutt
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To: Scuttlebutt; Snow Bunny; Mudboy Slim
Thank you for the link. I'll email this morning and hopefully a few others will also.
8 posted on 11/04/2001 6:39:20 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
another 'fresh' missive sent just now...bttt
9 posted on 11/04/2001 6:40:20 AM PST by krunkygirl
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To: Scuttlebutt
Just left a message for the Mayor...

Patriotism bump!

10 posted on 11/04/2001 6:40:21 AM PST by MonroeDNA
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To: Scuttlebutt
I tried to e-mail the congressman but was 'rejected' when my zip code wasn't in his district...
11 posted on 11/04/2001 6:50:45 AM PST by krunkygirl
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To: Scuttlebutt
Look at #11 and see if you know how to "fix" this, please.
12 posted on 11/04/2001 6:54:07 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: krunkygirl
******* On the original thread, there are good contacts listed in posts #63, 65, 82--this is Solana Beach city hall, and 97--tell Mr. Haas, head of animal control, that killing TJ will mean blood on his hands and angry people in the streets!
13 posted on 11/04/2001 6:55:39 AM PST by krunkygirl
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To: krunkygirl
Does anyone have email or phone numbers to these people?

NOTICE OF CITY COUNCIL REORGINIZATION

NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the City Council of the City of Solana Beach was reorganized at a regular meeting of the City Council held on Tuesday, December 5, 2000, as follows:

THOMAS M. CAMPBELL - MAYOR
(term expires 11/2002)

MARCIA E. SMERICAN - DEPUTY MAYOR
(term expires 11/2002)

THOMAS S. GOLICH - COUNCILMEMBER
(term expires 11/2004)

JOE G. KELLEJIAN - COUNCILMEMBER
(term expires 11/2004)

DOUGLAS SHERES - COUNCILMEMBER
(term expires 11/2004)

14 posted on 11/04/2001 7:01:01 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: krunkygirl; B4Ranch
Congressman Cunningham can be reached at his Washington Office:
2350 Rayburn Building
Washington, D.C. 20515
CALL: (202) 225-5452
FAX: (202) 225-2558

Or his District Office:
613 West Valley Parkway
Suite # 320
Escondido, CA 92025
CALL: (760) 737-8438
FAX: (760) 737-9132

15 posted on 11/04/2001 7:03:28 AM PST by Scuttlebutt
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To: Scuttlebutt
Thanks for this info---I must leave my PC now but hope that freepers will read about this and continue to respond BUMP!
16 posted on 11/04/2001 7:10:32 AM PST by krunkygirl
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I can't find email addresses yet.

Thomas M. Campbell, Solana Beach Mayor

635 South Highway 101,
Solana Beach, CA 92075
Phone - (858) 720-2400
Fax - (858) 792-6513/755-1782

17 posted on 11/04/2001 7:18:35 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: glock rocks
Thank you for your support.

I am trying to dig out the military base commanders names , addresses, email addresses, phone numbers, etc for Coronado Island and Miramar Naval Air Station. So far I can't find them, can anyone help me ? Monday morning lets send polite emails to the Mayor with copies to President Bush, Vice President Cheney, and the base commanders.

FOLLOWED
by telephone calls to the Mayor, the base commanders. If any of you chat on Yahoo.com or any other websites lets get this turned into a major case that will castrate this Mayor and his city workers. For less than $10.00 a piece we can make this mans life a bleeding hemorrhoid. We are the people who fought in Nam, Robert Northcut is one of us, a representative of the people who fought in that theater, came home damaged and is being crapped on by the Mayor of San Diego , California.

Please bookmark this website to your screen and Monday morning check back for all the names, numbers, email addresses, etc. They will be here available for you.

President George W. Bush
E-mail: president@whitehouse.gov

First Lady Laura Bush
E-mail: first.lady@whitehouse.gov

Vice President Dick Cheney
E-mail: vice.president@whitehouse.gov

Mrs. Lynne Cheney
E-mail: mrs.cheney@whitehouse.gov

Do not forget your own Rep!
Rep James Gibbons
E-mail: mail.gibbons@mail.house.gov

18 posted on 11/04/2001 7:23:01 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
Bump fer Justice in America...MUD
19 posted on 11/04/2001 8:29:55 AM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: B4Ranch
Excellent idea starting a new thread. Lets keep this at the top till T.J. and Mr Northcut are reunited!!!!
20 posted on 11/04/2001 8:53:33 AM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: B4Ranch
you have freepmail.
21 posted on 11/04/2001 8:53:49 AM PST by glock rocks
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To: B4Ranch
Thanks for the link to the city departments. I sent an email to each one that I thought could have any input.
22 posted on 11/04/2001 10:57:24 AM PST by JudyB1938
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To: B4Ranch
This is a press release from a media outfit, touting their great deed in front of their liberal clients for having rescued a homeless victim of capitalism from evil, capricious, uncaring government. Generally, the able-bodied homeless-by-choice are really the victimizers, with the taxpayers as the victims. There is no attempt to present two sides of the issue, to interview the district attorney or the neighbors or the animal control officer or the jail where he's being sedated. There's only the one side: innocent trespasser with cute puppy harassed by pigs, and look at all the FReepers' kneejerk reactions sending their unsolicited emails of outrage to our duly-elected government leaders. How much does Stephen Jaffe charge for his mass marketing services and crisis management consulting, anyways?

Three individuals are listed in Stephen Jaffe's press release, as coming to the alleged victim's defense: Sam Georges (attorney), Jennifer Lynch (attorney), and Stephen Jaffe (media).


1) Sam Georges...

A law school graduate, Sam Georges spent 20 years in active practice. He now is president and chief operating officer of the Anthony Robbins Companies, whose international headquarters are located in San Diego, CA. Sam and his wife, Lynn, who is an artist, live in Solana Beach, CA. He would love to hear from any classmates at <rrcoo@aol.com>.
Source: College of Wooster, Class of 1968 Alumni page


2). Jennifer Lynch...

Murchison & Cumming, Jennifer Lynch, ESQ. Re: Gay Yamashiro v. Security Self Storage, 619-544-6838
Source: Expert Witness Data Storage Company for lawyers


3). Stephen Jaffe ... "of Jaffe & Co. Inc., Strategic Media and Crisis Management"

Dick Gregory to Give Historic On-Line, 'State of the Union,' Web Cast To African-Americans April 21 Gregory's first ``State of the Union'' address had to be scheduled for 1:00 p.m., p.d.t, Saturday, April 21, according to Stephen Jaffe, president of Jaffe & Co. and spokesman for Dick Gregory. ``C-SPAN has also aided in spreading the news of Gregory's first 'State of the Union' address, however that exposure alone is not enough. We need your help! We know there is power in numbers, and ask that you infuse us with yours by passing along this good news!,'' Terry said.
Source: Gregory's first "State of the Union" address


The broader question would be how does a compassionate society deal with the borderline mentally ill. They're no danger to themselves or to others, but they can't function in society. There's the lawyers of the ACLU claiming that people have a "right" to live on heating grates on the sidewalks, or in the gutters, and cannot be forced to receive the medical care they really need, cannot be forced into a safe environment. As long as they can say "No" then there's nothing we can legally do to help them. It's a national disgrace that these people are allowed to be ignored, to be preyed upon by the homeless-by-choice.

Anyone who can find any more info on these individuals, please post it here.

23 posted on 11/04/2001 11:04:11 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
I looked at your profile. For such a religious person your remarks about the "alleged victim" certainly seem out of place. Apparently you have never been in combat or seen what it can do to a human beings state of well being. Perhaps you should discuss this with your Priest or Minister. (presuming they have experience with these matters)
24 posted on 11/04/2001 11:07:41 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
Freepathon to raise bail money?
25 posted on 11/04/2001 11:11:43 AM PST by nonliberal
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To: nonliberal
Jennifer Lynch, Esq., an attorney living in Vista who heard about the Northcut case from friends, appeared, pro bono, on his behalf in Superior Court. She noted that Northcut has served several days in jail for essentially protecting a Monument to those who had died defending our country during a former war. Northcut remained silent but the Judge, a distinguished veteran himself, saw the sad irony of the case and dismissed it for ``time served.''

(From the Original Post) ALERT!!!!! I just spoke to Mr Georges on the phone. He was very happy to hear from me. HOWEVER the city workers have filed a complaint that T.J. Is a dangerous dog and may not be released! They say that since the dog has barked at them he is a danger.

Mr Georges would like us to mail, email and call the mayor ASAP.

16 posted on 11/3/01 12:35 PM Pacific by Native American Female Vet

26 posted on 11/04/2001 11:21:18 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: swheats; anniegetyourgun; Alamo-Girl; American Preservative; archy; AwesomePossum; Aquamarine...
Bump
27 posted on 11/04/2001 11:36:41 AM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: Bikers4Bush; borisbob69; bigduke; blackie; CheneyChick; mountaineer; Timeout; BigWaveBetty; lodwick
Bump
28 posted on 11/04/2001 11:38:50 AM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: Utah Girl; ClancyJ; Teacup; MasonGal; Swede Girl; dixiechick2000; JudyB1938; Ragtime Cowgirl
Bump
29 posted on 11/04/2001 11:41:30 AM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: B4Ranch
Everyone conferred with victimhood status is automatically absolved of personal responsibility.

The liberal holds her nose with one hand while stretching out a dollar with the other. She walks away thinking: "I am a good person. I did a good deed, therefore I am good." Thus she deludes herself. In order to be charitable a person has to do the hard work of determining who it is that deserves charity, and whether the charity actually results in a real benefit for the recipient rather than in the deluded feelings of the giver.

30 posted on 11/04/2001 11:47:13 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: B4Ranch
Related article in the news:
S.F. spends more than $200 million a year on homelessness, but why does the problem persist?
31 posted on 11/04/2001 12:01:34 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Snow Bunny
volley bump!
32 posted on 11/04/2001 12:04:06 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Cultural Jihad
Go spread your sanctimonious crap some place else. You are never content unless you can piss on the parade grounds.
33 posted on 11/04/2001 12:06:10 PM PST by Scuttlebutt
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To: B4Ranch
11/03/01 ALERT!!!!! Native American Female Vet just spoke to Mr Georges on the phone.
He was very happy to hear from me.
HOWEVER the city workers have filed a complaint that T.J.
Is a dangerous dog and may not be released!
They say that since the dog has barked at them he is a danger.

Mr Georges would like us to mail, email and call the mayor ASAP
Thomas M. Campbell, Solana Beach Mayor
635 South Highway 101,
Solana Beach, CA 92075
Phone - (858) 720-2400
Fax - (858) 792-6513/755-1782

Click Here to e-mail Solano Beach City Hall.

This is what I sent:
Be advised your anti-American actions regarding Robert Thomas Northcut a decorated Vietnam Veteran
are going to cost your city a boycott of services in your city like the City of Berkeley
is feeling right now. (my real name) Viet Nam Vet
34 posted on 11/04/2001 12:08:16 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: Cultural Jihad
I see that you are not willing to discuss the loss of mental functions due to "combat shock", so my discussion with you is finished.
35 posted on 11/04/2001 12:38:54 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
BUMP
37 posted on 11/04/2001 4:14:25 PM PST by TnGOP
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To: B4Ranch; krunkygirl
"Look at #11 and see if you know how to "fix" this, please."

Use this Zip Code Look-up URL to find a zip in the district of any congresskritter you wish to contact ;-)

38 posted on 11/04/2001 4:36:38 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: Cultural Jihad; B4Ranch
Robert Thomas Northcut is a decorated Vietnam Veteran. - He gave just about all he had to give for this country; now it's our turn to return the favor, don't you think?
39 posted on 11/04/2001 4:45:46 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: Snow Bunny
Thank you for the ping, Snow Bunny. We can make a difference here. I e-mailed Roger Hedgecock and the animal control yesterday. We need to keep this cause bumped 'til our Vet and his dog are reunited with full apologies from the officials responsible. Hugs.
40 posted on 11/04/2001 5:17:45 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Thank you so much , you are such a dear friend. I am such a big time animal lover.My pets are my kids and God help anyone that would take them away from me.

Thank you again Ragtime Cowgirl.

41 posted on 11/04/2001 5:26:12 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: B4Ranch
Can you provide a link to the original thread, please? I lived my first 25 years in Solana Beach (many years ago). I can imagine how this situation tied the elitist local libs up in knots. Geeze...homeless...Vietnam Vet...puppy dog...all the buzzwords are there. But, fergawdsake, we don't want him sleeping in the middle of our downtown!
42 posted on 11/04/2001 5:45:48 PM PST by lonevoice
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To: JudyB1938
I merely point out the ludicrousness of asking people to email everyone in power from President Bush on down to the mayor of Solana Beach, all because of a press release issued by an obscure media firm. We have no reputable press story here, no independent inquiry whose income is not derived from governmental largesse. The man seems to have higher friends than you or I do, so I'm not too concerned over his well-being. On the other hand, let me know if a reputable source prints an independent story.
43 posted on 11/04/2001 5:53:32 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad; JudyB1938; B4Ranch; Bogey78O; Native American Female Vet; moonman; Snow Bunny...
Cultural Jihad: "so I'm not too concerned over his well-being."

well he was concerned enough about YOUR Freedom.
Tell me what you have ever done to defend our country.
How dare you treat a Viet Nam Vet, or any Vet like this!

Cultural Jihad

44 posted on 11/04/2001 7:20:42 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: TnGOP
BUMP
45 posted on 11/04/2001 7:25:43 PM PST by victim soul
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
BIG Patriotic BUMP !!!!!!!!!
46 posted on 11/04/2001 7:26:57 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: lonevoice
Can you provide a link to the original thread, please?

link to thread one

47 posted on 11/04/2001 7:35:39 PM PST by glock rocks
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Bump!
48 posted on 11/04/2001 7:49:08 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
There are VA hospitals and homes he could go back to, if he wanted to. Since you expressed such an interest in his well-being, then let him camp out on YOUR front yard, or get YOUR mayor to give him a key to YOUR city so he can sleep in YOUR public parks near YOUR monuments.

Conservatives are in favor of local control, not mobocracy. They don't call for a mass email campaign, from all over the country, directed against a small township over the rumor of a local ordinance issue, referred in print only in a press release. Sheesh.

49 posted on 11/04/2001 8:19:42 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
bump
50 posted on 11/04/2001 8:23:39 PM PST by krunkygirl
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