Posted on 11/04/2001 11:19:57 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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Known as the U.S.A. Patriot Act, the law empowers the government to shift the primary mission of the FBI from solving crimes to gathering domestic intelligence. In addition, the Treasury Department has been charged with building a financial intelligence-gathering system whose data can be accessed by the CIA
Most significantly, the CIA will have the authority for the first time to influence FBI surveillance operations inside the United States and to obtain evidence gathered by federal grand juries and criminal wiretaps.
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The CIA should not become involved in domestic law enforcement involving US citizens by having access to grand jury info and wiretaps on US citizens. There is tremendous potential for political abuse in this. This is another sign of a growing police state. These provisons will probably never be recinded once the war on terrorism is over.
Are these new tools for an AntiChrist to run his world government and subjugate the American people?
Now there is a credibility building argument.
I have got to say though that there is something ominous that worries me much more than Muslim families in our presence. It's this dark cloud of authoritarian presence that is descending upon us at an unprecedented velocity. This worries me. I hope that once the chill of 'terrorist' attack thaws on this land, we don't find that another critical battle has been lost while we were wincing.
It is a credible fact that many responsible US citizens do not find all the provisions of the new law to be wise regardless of whether or not you agree with their views or mine.
I have many Texas friends asscociated with the Baylor and Dallas seminaries who share my concerns about the AntiChrist and some of the provisions in the new bill. They like me are conservative Republicans and Christians and they have high credibility in their communities. They like me do not agree with everything Bush says and does.
America & Oklahoma Forever.
I hope that those who are indulging in this orgy of blind patriotism don't get tricked into an unquestioning trust bond with the government. The point is, you may not be in bed with who you thought (take it from me, I learned this trick in college ;))
As for the desire of the CIA to get themselves unprecedented Powers to overrun our Civil Liberties, I share your concern and look to assist any efforts to overturn this UNCONSTITUTIONAL legislation.
FReegards...MUD
It does remind me of George Orwell's
Ministry of Truth (The propaganda department)
in the book 1984.
`(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
`(B) appear to be intended--
`(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
`(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
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This is a broad definition of domestic terrorism. If a politician "feels" intmidated by a group that is exposing corruption, then that group can be labeled as domestic terrorists. What happens if the information on FR intimidates a politician?
The only one who expressed agreement with him on the maggot issue was Michael Rivero.
They're both banned now. But they were right.
Did you ever read a specific reason from anyone as to why Michael Rivero was banned. He put a lot quality work ito the OKC investigation.
DCI is a Republican . . . . . oops, forgot . . . appointed by Clinton
But the FBI Direcor is a Republican . . . . . . oops, forgot . . . . . . Clinton appointee too. Well, at least the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs is a Republican . . . . . . oops, forgot.
Say, anybody know where John Negroponte, Lee Radek, Glen Fine or Norman Minetta are these days? Must be out to pasture, now that Billy Jeff is gone. How 'bout Joe Albaugh . . . . . you know, that guy who used to work for Jackson Stephens, Clintons biggest financial backer? What's ole Joe doin'?
Shore is comforting to see that "the adults are in charge," ain't it?
Probably down in Venice, Floriduh, takin' care a bidness ----- Jackson Stephens 'Active' in Venice Florida
I believe he unloaded on the Evil Jews without differentiating between them and good folks. Not sure myself, but that's what I gathered from other reading.
Israel is NOT loaded with saints, any more than our Nation, and that especially goes for their Mossad. They're running parallel with our CIA as far as destruction of God-Fearing Nations, Ours and Theirs.
As for the CIA and the Delta Force, don't doubt anything as it was the CIA involved in the Mena Connection cocaine operation gone sour and two young teenage boys death which will remain a mystery during Clinton's time as Governor of Arkansas. The CIA is capable of anything. George Bush Sr., knows this very well as he was head of the CIA. (Not knocking him either).
As for the CIA knowing anything about the recent attack on the WTC, well I think this goes beyond the CIA! This was definitely planned by those of the blue blood types who want to further their agenda to bring chaos to establish their twisted New World Order. The CIA is just another paramilitary operation working in cohorts with FEMA.
Both Rivero and A+Bert have been missing for a loooong time. I suspect something sinister is afoot.
Crap, I got an error trying to put A+Bert in the To: line.
It rained down on anyone who committed the most minor of crimes. There was a report of a man who solicited a prostitute and his vehicle was legally confiscated because he was in his vehicle while attempting to procure the services of a street prostitute.
In my county, law enforcement has repeatedly confiscated the vehicles of small time drug dealers. These people were not the millionaire drug dealers this law was created for. Homes have been confiscated under this law because some small-time criminal sold a few ounces of marijuana from his house.
So now that we have given broader powers to the CIA to fight terrorism and mass murder, will they stop there?
I, for one, have never argued otherwise...MUD
Anybody who argues that Bill Clinton should not be Indicted and Convicted of TREASON and--probably--given the Rosenberg Treatment is displaying a Willful Ignorance that threatens the longevity of The Land of the FRee and The Home of the Brave!!!! IMHO, of course.
Good stuff, Ms. Jade, you Commie Sympathizer, you!!!
FReegards...MUD
From your post here I didn't realize how far back (Little Rock, Arkansas) the Riady family has been involved in this corruption.
Here's a sincere question fer the LegalBeagles out there..."What is to prevent a Locality or a State from bringing charges against these LOWLIFE TRAITORS that the Federal Justice System seems soooo inept at nailing to the wall fer their Anti-American Crimes?!"
To my knowledge, there is nothing that gives the Feds Supreme--and Sole--Jurisdiction over these crimes that can be traced to specific localities!!
FReegards...MUD
A state could bring charges against these lowlifes if there is a state statute violation. Then it belongs in state court. But since this has federal criminal elements under the federal campaign commission, it is proper to bring this in the federal tribunals. The only reason why the federal justice system seems so inept at nailing these lowlifes for their criminal activity is simply because the law clerks assigned the case to a Clinton judge. It is my suspicion that this law clerk or deputy clerk was "placed" in charge to disperse of such a case resulting in it being "killed" by a Clinton source. This is called "spiking a case". In cases like this, law clerks and deputy clerks may be recused if it is discovered and proven of such criminal acts.
"To my knowledge, there is nothing that gives the Feds Supreme--and Sole--Jurisdiction over these crimes that can be traced to specific localities!!"
True because the Supreme Court of the U.S. has original jurisdiction pertaining to the constitutionality of issues. Depending on if the decision of the federal court's is final or interlocutory (temportary). However, it depends on the case whether it is one of case or controversy. Of "case" means that constitional issues apply whereas, "controversy" applies to federal statutory laws. Where the federal court may have certain powers and restraints on deciding a case, the Supreme Court holds discretion on whether to hear a matter of "public interest" and that of a private dispute. Also the issue of "standing" of the plaintiff (U.S.) depends on the nature of the injury. Whether the injury is one of a diffuse nature (alleged harm) or one of cognizable nature(injury in fact) is another consideration.
-DOWNSIDE LEGACY AT TWO DEGREES OF PRESIDENT CLINTON --
and hunt, and they'll see so much sickening evidence of treason that they will be converted into "clinton haters" on the spot.
Or, perhaps if they are lazy, used to getting pre-digested news bites from useful dupes like they do from the TV, they could look here:
and find so many names, places and events tied to X(i)-42 and his enablers that their heads will start spinning.... or they can look here:
Catastrophic intelligence Failure - Clinton's Bin Laden GATE
... and ask, "Just how much blood is on clinton's hands?"
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