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Decorated Vietnam Vet Arrested Guarding War Memorial and American Flag in San Diego(#3)
Newsgroups: alt.war.vietnam ^ | 11/5/01 | SOURCE: Jaffe & Co., Inc., Strategic Media and Crisis Management

Posted on 11/05/2001 6:36:52 PM PST by B4Ranch

Robert Thomas Northcut is a decorated Vietnam Veteran. In the years that have passed since he was blown up in a delta ambush he spent his time in and out of Veteran's hospitals.

Ten years ago he walked out of the VA hospital never to look back. He found his way to Solana Beach, California where he has lived outside, as a homeless man, never panhandling a dime.

Each day he walks the streets with his trusty German Shepherd, ``TJ,'' given to him by caring townfolks. He always stops to greet people and pat children on their heads as they pet his dog and look in wonderment at this shell of a man, forever wounded serving his country in the war in Vietnam. His Purple Heart went the way of all his belongings when he decided to stop living in a VA hospital and get out and enjoy the beauty of the California coastline with ``TJ.''

His long shaggy Australian bush coat and Crocodile Dundee hat distinguish him for the hero he is as he is seen searching in the morning shadows looking for food.

For ten years Thomas has been the street ambassador of Solana Beach.

When he heard the tragedy of ``9/11'' on his little portable radio he was instantly moved to action. He now had a purpose, a mission, a reason to reestablish his identity. He went to the little traffic island of the City which houses the stone war memorial next to the large American flag pole. He took up residence next to the Memorial, resting his head each night on it to protect it from what he felt was a possible terrorist attack. Each night he lowered the flag and each day raised it to half mast.

Neighbors brought food for him and his dog and brought him newspapers to keep up to date.

It had all come back to him....a purpose, a vision, an identity. He was now back in the line of duty. Every small part helped. His was to raise the flag and to protect the Monument.

Early one morning after he raised the flag, the workmen arrived. As he saluted, they pounded into the ground the two foot square No Trespassing sign. Moments later they called the Sheriff's department and held Thomas there until they arrived.

The city code enforcer ordered a citation to be issued for Thomas Northcut for trespassing. Thomas crumpled it into his pocket and went back to his duties, guarding the monument.

The code enforcer patiently waited for the court appearance date to pass then asked that the arrest warrant be issued.

Thomas and his dog awoke to the angry sounds of deputies as they pulled him from the ground, his hat falling by the side of the Monument and dragged him away in one direction screaming for his dog as they dragged ``TJ'' away to an animal control truck.

Thomas was handcuffed and taken to jail to await arraignment. ``TJ'' was taken to the pound where if unclaimed, he will be put to death in a matter of weeks.

This story did not take place in 1975. It was Thursday, October 26, 2001. Thomas, unable to post the bond, waited in the lockup and had to be sedated because of panic attacks which resulted from his incarceration. Meanwhile, his dog, ``TJ'' has lost his appetite longing for his owner. And the flag just sits at half mast.

``How soon we forget,'' said Sam Georges, an attorney, U.S. Air Force veteran and friend of Northcut's who is trying to get people to help for the jailed vet get released and see that he's reunited with his dog, and in the process sensitize the city. Georges is also president of the internationally famous Anthony Robbins Companies.

``It's pretty obvious that a time like this, we need to show our respect to patriotic Americans to those who have fought to protect our freedoms. Especially those who have worn the uniform of our armed forces and sacrificed for our country,'' said Stephen Jaffe, president Jaffe & Company, a crisis management communications firm in based in Los Angeles.

This morning, Jennifer Lynch, Esq., an attorney living in Vista who heard about the Northcut case from friends, appeared, pro bono, on his behalf in Superior Court. She noted that Northcut has served several days in jail for essentially protecting a Monument to those who had died defending our country during a former war. Northcut remained silent but the Judge, a distinguished veteran himself, saw the sad irony of the case and dismissed it for ``time served.''

``Now there remains only one more injustice to be corrected,'' Lynch stated, ``and that's for Thomas to be reunited with his dog, 'TJ.''' Friends of Northcut have agreed to take him to the pound where ``TJ'' is being held tomorrow. ``If the city officials and the system doesn't get in the way, Thomas and 'TJ' will be together again, greeting the folks in Solana Beach and enjoying the freedom he gave so much of himself to protect,'' Lynch added.

For further information, please contact Jennifer Lynch, Esq., +1-760-643-4113; or Sam Georges, Esq., +1-619-417-1408; or Stephen Jaffe of Jaffe & Co., Inc., +1-310-275-7327.

SOURCE: Jaffe & Co., Inc., Strategic Media and Crisis Management

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I just got a phone call from Sam Georges in Solana Beach about todays happenings regarding Robert Thomas Northcut. I found out more about him.

Northcut was in the USN stationed in South Viet Nam. He was a 'river rat' and was injured over in Cambodia. There was 13 men in the boat when the boat exploded from enemy fire. Apparently some men were killed and a few were injured. He was sent to a hospital in Australia to recover.

He has been in Solana Beach for about 10 years. He had another dog for seven years who died of old age. Then he got this German Shepard. This dog worked with the Border Patrol down in San Diego. The San Diego Animal Control did a scan and found the chip in its neck. My guess is that the dog has barked and lurched at Mexicans, which he was trained to do! They have found a police dog trainer who has offered to work with the dog to retrain it.

The Mayor in San Diego forwarded all the emails he got up to the Mayor at Solana Beach. Literally "hundreds of emails" is the term Sam used. The City manager of Solana Beach is "looking into what they can do" to get Northcut his dog back and they are probably going to start treating him with the respect he deserves. With this much publicity we have got them damn scared and on their toes. I expect that very soon things will be much better for Northcut and his dog.

I guess they were shocked that this has become an "international issue". Well, it is because of you folks that this has happened. Sam got a call from someone who said it was in the National Review (?) newspaper. The man hung up without giving his name. I am so proud that you all have taken the time to step forward. It is things like this that will make all cities start looking at war veterans with a different scope. They will be afraid that if they mistreat a veteran the same "international issue" could be brought into their city showing how cold hearted they are.

Sam is going out of the country for two weeks on Wednesday. His assistant, Gail will be answering his phone. Jennifer is also available to receive phone calls. Stephen Jaffe was the one who asked Jennifer to defend Northcut in court to get him out of jail. She did it Pro Bono. What a great lady!

1 posted on 11/05/2001 6:36:52 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
Great news!BTTT!
2 posted on 11/05/2001 6:40:02 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: B4Ranch
Thanks for the update! This old Marine respects the "brown water Navy". A college friend CO'd a squadron of 'em in the delta.
3 posted on 11/05/2001 6:43:32 PM PST by clintonh8r
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To: Scuttlebutt; Snow Bunny; Mudboy Slim; krunkygirl; glock rocks; nonliberal; swheats...
Thread #3. The latest about Robert Thomas Northcut
4 posted on 11/05/2001 6:44:50 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
Thanks and bump!
5 posted on 11/05/2001 6:46:52 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: B4Ranch
Once again, Freepers, to the rescue. Congrats to all who called and sent emails!
6 posted on 11/05/2001 6:49:33 PM PST by TwoStep
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To: B4Ranch
I called last week when this was first posted. They were very happy to have reached so many millions of readers on FreeRepublic (perhaps billions). I heard the charges had been dropped, but still no pup. What's the news on that?
7 posted on 11/05/2001 6:50:04 PM PST by Darheel
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To: B4Ranch
Awesome! Let's hope he gets his dog back.
8 posted on 11/05/2001 6:50:08 PM PST by BigBlueJon
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To: B4Ranch; mystomachisturning; krunkygirl
Keep sending those e-mails Freepers, our voices are being heard! Reunite Mr. Northcut and TJ
9 posted on 11/05/2001 6:55:41 PM PST by deadhead
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To: B4Ranch
God bless Robert Thomas Northcut and the folks who have helped him. May he be reunited with TJ and let him lead the life he chose.

Wouldn't we love to know who blew the whistle, when it appears most of the town loved 'em?

Thanks so much for the update!

10 posted on 11/05/2001 6:55:56 PM PST by uvular
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To: clintonh8r; wirestripper
Bump your friends and let them know about this new thread. Native American Female Vet will be posting some more new stuff Sam told her today.
11 posted on 11/05/2001 7:05:54 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: Darheel
. This dog worked with the Border Patrol down in San Diego. The San Diego Animal Control did a scan and found the chip in its neck. My guess is that the dog has barked and lurched at Mexicans, which he was trained to do! They have found a police dog trainer who has offered to work with the dog to retrain it.
12 posted on 11/05/2001 7:07:39 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: deadhead
"Keep sending those e-mails Freepers, our voices are being heard!"

Thomas M. Campbell, Solana Beach Mayor
635 South Highway 101,
Solana Beach, CA 92075
Phone - (858) 720-2400
Fax - (858) 792-6513/755-1782

Click Here to e-mail Solano Beach City Hall.

This is what I sent:
Be advised your anti-American actions regarding Robert Thomas Northcut a decorated Vietnam Veteran
are going to cost your city a boycott of services in your city like the City of Berkeley
is feeling right now. (my real name) Viet Nam Vet
13 posted on 11/05/2001 7:09:03 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: B4Ranch; Native American Female Vet
I am so dammed proud of the 2 of you!
And everyone who has helped on this!
SALUTE

14 posted on 11/05/2001 7:13:18 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: B4Ranch
I'm happy for him but still incredibly pissed off. This country treats real Americans like garbage, and garbage like real Americans. Remember those rioters in LA back in 1992. They burned, looted and pillaged their neighbourhoods, like the scum that they are, and then we spent millions to rebuild them, declared them "Empowerment Zones", gave tax breaks all the while lowly veterans had to pull teeth to get the medical services they needed from the VA.

I am so sick and tired of the riff-raff being placed above the high quality men of this country I could scream. The entire city of San Diego should be fired and their pathetic liberal hides thrown out on the street.

15 posted on 11/05/2001 7:20:49 PM PST by america76
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To: america76
"The entire city of San Diego"

It's City of Solano Beach
16 posted on 11/05/2001 7:22:35 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
City of Solana Beach
17 posted on 11/05/2001 7:23:43 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: B4Ranch
Thanks for the update. What's great about FR it removes boundaries, state lines and distance. This could have been a real tragedy. The worse thing was it didn't become illegal until Mr Northcut decided to protect the monument.
18 posted on 11/05/2001 7:23:54 PM PST by swheats
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To: america76
My understanding is that Solana Beach is an 'upperclass area'. It is San Diego Animal Control that has , TJ, Northcut's dog.
19 posted on 11/05/2001 7:24:07 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
FLAG!
20 posted on 11/05/2001 7:29:45 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: JohnHuang2; Snow Bunny; FallGuy; marsh2; dixiechick2000; Helen; Mama_Bear; poet; Grampa Dave...
Latest News from B4Ranch Ping


I just got a phone call from Sam Georges in Solana Beach about todays happenings regarding Robert Thomas Northcut. I found out more about him.

Northcut was in the USN stationed in South Viet Nam. He was a 'river rat' and was injured over in Cambodia. There was 13 men in the boat when the boat exploded from enemy fire. Apparently some men were killed and a few were injured. He was sent to a hospital in Australia to recover.

He has been in Solana Beach for about 10 years. He had another dog for seven years who died of old age. Then he got this German Shepard. This dog worked with the Border Patrol down in San Diego. The San Diego Animal Control did a scan and found the chip in its neck. My guess is that the dog has barked and lurched at Mexicans, which he was trained to do! They have found a police dog trainer who has offered to work with the dog to retrain it.

The Mayor in San Diego forwarded all the emails he got up to the Mayor at Solana Beach. Literally "hundreds of emails" is the term Sam used. The City manager of Solana Beach is "looking into what they can do" to get Northcut his dog back and they are probably going to start treating him with the respect he deserves. With this much publicity we have got them damn scared and on their toes. I expect that very soon things will be much better for Northcut and his dog.

I guess they were shocked that this has become an "international issue". Well, it is because of you folks that this has happened. Sam got a call from someone who said it was in the National Review (?) newspaper. The man hung up without giving his name. I am so proud that you all have taken the time to step forward. It is things like this that will make all cities start looking at war veterans with a different scope. They will be afraid that if they mistreat a veteran the same "international issue" could be brought into their city showing how cold hearted they are.

Sam is going out of the country for two weeks on Wednesday. His assistant, Gail will be answering his phone. Jennifer is also available to receive phone calls. Stephen Jaffe was the one who asked Jennifer to defend Northcut in court to get him out of jail. She did it Pro Bono. What a great lady!

1 posted on 11/5/01 7:36 PM Pacific by B4Ranch
"Keep sending those e-mails Freepers, our voices are being heard!"

Thomas M. Campbell, Solana Beach Mayor
635 South Highway 101,
Solana Beach, CA 92075
Phone - (858) 720-2400
Fax - (858) 792-6513/755-1782

Click Here to e-mail Solano Beach City Hall.

This is what I sent:
Be advised your anti-American actions regarding Robert Thomas Northcut a decorated Vietnam Veteran
are going to cost your city a boycott of services in your city like the City of Berkeley
is feeling right now. (my real name) Viet Nam Vet

21 posted on 11/05/2001 7:32:57 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: B4Ranch
"My understanding is that Solana Beach is an 'upperclass area'. It is San Diego Animal Control that has , TJ, Northcut's dog."

San Diego Animal Control E-mail

DACInfo@co.san-diego.ca.us
22 posted on 11/05/2001 7:37:59 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; B4Ranch
Thanks for the heads up!
23 posted on 11/05/2001 7:40:22 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: B4Ranch
bump
26 posted on 11/05/2001 7:49:39 PM PST by Britton J Wingfield
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To: B4Ranch
Thank you for keeping this alive.
27 posted on 11/05/2001 7:51:27 PM PST by Spirited
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Thanks for the news update, I'm emailing the REMF's.
28 posted on 11/05/2001 7:51:36 PM PST by Judge Parker
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To: B4Ranch
No time to say much---great job, B4Ranch! I think life, while not perfect, may have just gotten easier for Mr. Northcut, and, I hope, TJ. Stay with it folks!
29 posted on 11/05/2001 7:54:20 PM PST by krunkygirl
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To: B4Ranch
I recieved an e-mail back from them today thanking me for my"kind words", made my day. This is the sort of thing we do best.
I say YEAH US, and it goes without saying BOO THEM.
30 posted on 11/05/2001 7:55:21 PM PST by Valin
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Hmmm why do I get the feeling that the right honorable Thomas M. Campbell is about to get his mailbox filled?
31 posted on 11/05/2001 7:58:56 PM PST by Valin
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To: B4Ranch
Thanks for the ping. Keep the updates coming.
32 posted on 11/05/2001 8:04:19 PM PST by Topaz
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To: B4Ranch
I hope you don't mind but I quoted you on the Military.com open discussion forum for Marines
and included a link to this thread.
if some one could link the previous threads here, it might be a good idea.
33 posted on 11/05/2001 8:09:34 PM PST by usmcobra
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To: B4Ranch
Thank you so much for the update. B4Ranch it just has to work out. I am praying so hard for Northcut and his T.J.
34 posted on 11/05/2001 8:13:08 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Here's what I e-mailed:

I trained in California before going to Vietnam. I remember one of your fine people, after looking at my haircut, saying: "You know, I don't have time to talk to you, you're not going to live long enough." Well, while many of my friends didn't live, I did.

Upon returning to California from Vietnam, some of my friends were spit on by your good people.

With your treatment of Robert Thomas Northcut, a decorated Vietnam Veteran, I can see that you people are still the same.

I hope and expect that your area will feel a significant negative economic impact because of your mindless cruelty. And I hope that those who now serve us are treated with respect and consideration - but with people in the world like you, I DOUBT IT.

It's a good thing that there are better people in the world than you, otherwise you'd be sucking up to some Nazi or Communist scum.

Best wishes,

[My Name]

Vietnam vet, USMC

Hope I didn't offend anyone.

35 posted on 11/05/2001 8:14:49 PM PST by Judge Parker
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To: Valin
Mailbox, fax machine, email server"

These have been overflowing all day and his phone is constantly busy. His assistants are 'handling' complaints about their treatment of Robert Thomas Northcut and TJ.

36 posted on 11/05/2001 8:15:08 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: usmcobra
You may quote me anytime. I don't get into the BS side of posting.
37 posted on 11/05/2001 8:16:39 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
Also... The dog TJ, is the replacement for his dog that died last year and that one is buried at the memorial. Jennifer Lynch got 100 emails and 60 phones today....Those are the ones to say thank you imagine what the City got.

I spoke to Lucy at 10:30 am and I asked her how many calls she had gotten so far and she said I was the first. She said she was not sure of the details but they had been trying forever to get him out of the memorial because he was destroying the landscaping and that it was distruction of property. They have pictures of it too she said.

She went on to say there are 2 sides to the story etc. She said one of their main concerns was that the dog is neglected. I aksed if there where complaints prior to 9/11 about the dog and she said yes. I found out tonight the dog did bite someone last year. But no complaints have been filed since then and only after 9/11 by city workers and from what I can figure out it is the ones who put up the trespass sign and the ones on the scene the day they arrested Mr. Northcut.

She then said some homeless people had complained that the dog was barking at them in another landscape area and they were concerned the dog is a danger.

She interupted me and asked how I found out about this and I told her Yahoo.com ( didnt want to give us away yet lol) told her I didnt have the url handy at the moment she could find it easy. She seemed to be getting a little worked up now and She then went on to say it was all still comming clear to her but Mr Northcut had had oustanding warrents and that was why they picked him up. The dog is a danger and looks very under fed. It will cost the city thousands to repair the landscape. She didnt know anything about where the dog was, had not talked to sheriff or any other questions after that. So I told her I would call her back in a few hours so they could figure out what was going on, before I went to print. :)

I came to FR got the url to the link and called her back...she took my call and I told her I had the url for her and she was in FULL PANIC mode and said they had found it and they were reading it now. I said good Ill talk to you in a few hours

I gave her 3 hours, called and was told They are in a meeting. Kept calling back she was still in a meeting her secretary said then at 4 all I got was voice mail for Lucy and her secretary.

Now since a complaint was filed a task force will investigate to determine if the dog is safe. They may give him back only if he has a fenced area to keep him in. Mr Northcut was offered a place to live but said no, he cant live indoors.

As of tonight Mr. Northcut was last seen at the memorial.

Im sure I left out some stuff...got notes scattered all over so if I remember any more I will post it.

OH and Mr Georges said NOT TO LET UP. KEEP IT GOING!!!!

ALSO please forgive typos Im typing as fast as I can

38 posted on 11/05/2001 8:17:10 PM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: B4Ranch
< I guess they were shocked that this has become an "international issue". >

I especially liked that part, because in my email to those city officials I mentioned that the world is watching what's happening there. I didn't get a reply from ONE of them!

However, I am glad to report I get get an email from Jennifer L. Lynch, Attorney at Law, jll@jllynch.com, saying: "Thank you for your words of encouragement."

You Go, B4. You did good AGAIN! Thank you for watching out for this homeless Vet. Because of you and his pro bono attorneys, he isn't as alone as he thought.

39 posted on 11/05/2001 8:17:32 PM PST by JudyB1938
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; B4Ranch
They better treat T.J. too in a good way. He is not a dog that is not wanted and he was yanked from his buddy that loves him dearly.

Hang in their Thomas Northcut sir and T.J...... we FReepers will not stop till we get this made right.

40 posted on 11/05/2001 8:17:49 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: Judge Parker; Spirited; ratcat; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; Snow Bunny; Mudboy Slim
For the curious ones:

The intersection of the War Memorial where Northcut was arrested. Lomas Sante Fe and Old Hwy. 101. It is in the upper righthand corner of this picture. 3" down from the top. 31/2" in from the right.

Facts & Figures
SFD Price Range: $280,000 to $1,800,000
SFD Average Price: $761,350
SFD Median Price: $661,000
Condo Price Range: $155,000 to $797,000
Condo Average Price: $384,350
Condo Median Price: $341,000
Population: 13,197
Area: 3.8 sq. mi.
Median Age: 40.4 years
Median Family Income: $63,472
City Hall: (858) 755-2998

Chamber of Commerce: (858) 755-4775

City map

41 posted on 11/05/2001 8:19:06 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: Valin
Just sent an e-mail (to be 'opened' first thing tomorrow morning) to the Animal Control address: DACInfo@co.san-diego.ca.us Want them to know we're paying very close attention and nothing had better happen to TJ that they wouldn't want to end up in print!
42 posted on 11/05/2001 8:19:18 PM PST by krunkygirl
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Thanks for the flag, Tonks! Sending e-mail!

BUMP!

43 posted on 11/05/2001 8:20:12 PM PST by Clinton's a liar
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To: usmcobra
Decorated Vietnam Vet Arrested Guarding War Memorial and American Flag in San Diego

Thread #1
Thread #2

44 posted on 11/05/2001 8:22:33 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
Semper bump
45 posted on 11/05/2001 8:24:37 PM PST by Robert Lomax
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To: deadhead
Mr Georges told me a cute story about Mr Northcut. Mr Georges took Mr Northcut to see TJ but he could only look at him through the fence. Mr Northcut is pretty upset as we might know and just kept saying he wants his dog back. Mr Georges said he told him his story had gotten out all over the internet and thousands of people where helping him try and get his dog back.

Mr Northcut said...whats the internet? LOL

46 posted on 11/05/2001 8:25:28 PM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: Snow Bunny
Nice to see the power of united action in a good cause.
47 posted on 11/05/2001 8:28:31 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Robert Lomax
BTTT for TJ and his Nam buddy ... they're both right on in my book!
48 posted on 11/05/2001 8:29:58 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: mystomachisturning
Over here
49 posted on 11/05/2001 8:30:32 PM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: B4Ranch
You know, by that map, it would be between the Chamber of Commerce and the tourist informaion center.
Perhaps the Chamber needs some E-mail????
50 posted on 11/05/2001 8:30:45 PM PST by usmcobra
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