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Girls play game of strip volleyball
Philadelphia Daily News ^
| 7 November 2001
| Fort Worth Star-Telegram
Posted on 11/08/2001 6:27:45 AM PST by Fintan
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To: lepton
"Where does it say that the teachers asked the children to disrobe?"
Oh, I see. The girls just did it on their own.
To: Cyber Liberty
Don't ask for pictures of 13 year old girls with their clothes off, and things will go ok for you.
To: Teacher317
If that can be proven, I'll gladly withdraw my attempts at supporting the coaches in question.
C'mon, man---I'm as hedonistic as anyone else here at FR, but even I recognize this strip drill as utter BS. Just from a pure coaching standpoint, what's the purpose of a drill where you disrobe if you screw up?
To: Cyber Liberty
yes, don't bother saying "WHOOPS Sorry, folks I didn't mean it that way. I totally left out the part about the perpetrators in the first post. But you know me well enough that you should have read my mind."
Incidentally, from where exactly am I supposed to know you to have given you the benefit of a doubt?
To: Cyber Liberty
Dont ya' suppose a lot of the heat you are taking is unnecessary, and even a bit gratuitous, given your post # 42, where you explained you posted the comment before reading the article.
Hell, when I saw the title, my first thought was to post something similar. I got lucky and caught the ages before I did so.
To: Cyber Liberty
Aw shucks, I bet you tell that to all the girls you meet.
To: lepton
"Whose name for that was it? Did any instructions include removing actual clothing (beyond socks while having shoes put back on)? Does YOUR having a foot-fetish make ME a pervert for not realizing it?"
The article stated that the strip-volleyball game "...required that team members take off shoes, socks, kneepads or hair accessories..."
My daughter was on the 8th grade volleyball team at her school last year. The gear they wear is for their own protection, and every coach knows this. There is no good reason for removing any it during practice.
That leaves only bad reasons.
Having said that, let me state for the record, that any foot-fetish that I may or may not have is reserved soley for women of a less pediatric vintage.
To: Don Myers
Oh, I see. The girls just did it on their own. Ever been around teenagers? I at least was one once, I'd have expected you were one too. Teenagers do dumb and bizarre things (I'm not EVEN gonna name MY list). This was hardly an act of great complexity requiring creative depravity to come to. This one can be done just by not thinking.
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11/08/2001 8:14:50 AM PST
by
lepton
To: Hemingway's Ghost
Just from a pure coaching standpoint, what's the purpose of a drill where you disrobe if you screw up? Convenient marker without having to keep written records. Think Analog computer.
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posted on
11/08/2001 8:16:36 AM PST
by
lepton
To: Freemyland
I am quite inclined to agree with you. BUT, given the self-important twits running loose on this thread, it's somewhat understandable.
To: Cyber Liberty
But... you didn't get that much from me before you called me "rude." I only said "very crude." Isn't it *good* that people were calling you on the card for thinking you wanted to see young disrobed girls? I think so. Yes, it was uncomfortable for you, but... it's a good sign that it happened. In fact, I'm glad that (if you're speaking truthfully - you did say you would lie to appease...) you made the comment about posting the perp's pictures for all to see. Good healthy sense of indignation.
To: lepton
Lepton, read the first sentence again of the article. The girls did not do these things on their own. "Girl volleyball players at a Fort Worth middle school were asked by their coaches to play a game of "strip serve" volleyball, "
To: Terriergal
How soon they forget. I bet you say that to all the guys...lol.
To: Terriergal
RE #151,
I think it's pretty obvious that we look at the same world in remarkably different ways, gal.
To: Teacher317
"...I would still rather give them the benefit of the doubt, and reiterate that they specified the appropriate items to be removed..."See post #147. The items were not appropriate.
What I'd like to see is an example of teachers who are willing to make an example of other teachers. Pleanty of reasons to fire this lot.
To: Sabertooth
My daughter was on the 8th grade volleyball team at her school last year. The gear they wear is for their own protection, and every coach knows this. There is no good reason for removing any it during practice. Yes. Safety is a concern - and the one that came to my mind...but that's not the question. On the other hand, pads in volleyball are mostly for dealing with rub-burns, not actual impacts. Barefoot is O.K. No socks in shoes are O.K., but playing in stocking feet is daft.
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11/08/2001 8:20:05 AM PST
by
lepton
To: Sabertooth
My daughter was on the 8th grade volleyball team at her school last year. The gear they wear is for their own protection, and every coach knows this. There is no good reason for removing any it during practice. Yes. Safety is a concern - and the one that came to my mind...but that's not the question. On the other hand, pads in volleyball are mostly for dealing with rub-burns, not actual impacts. Barefoot is O.K. No socks in shoes are O.K., but playing in stocking feet is daft.
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11/08/2001 8:20:25 AM PST
by
lepton
To: lepton
Convenient marker without having to keep written records. Think Analog computer.
Thank God my coach didn't make me strip off a piece of equipment for every goal I let in during practice. I'd be dead right now.
To: Freemyland
I'm still amazed that the age matters, morally. Legally yes, but it's not good to ogle women of any age. You may think it makes you feel virile but it's not healthy to allow yourself to indulge your eyes. I don't think it's funny. There was a time when that was the normal attitude. Just because girls dress like sluts nowadays doesn't mean men's attitudes have to be led mindessly along the same trail.
To: lepton
"Ever been around teenagers? I at least was one once, I'd have expected you were one too. Teenagers do dumb and bizarre things..."I was a teen ager, I'm raising a teenager, and I've coached teenagers (swim coach, ages 5 to 18).
You are correct, teenagers are often foolish. That's why we can't allow the adults who are supposed to supervise them to be be idiots at best, and in this case, propbably worse.
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