Suitcase Nukes Raise Concern (The Turkish Nuclear Bazaar)

ABCNEWS.com ^ | Friday November 09 11:39 AM EST | Brian Ross

[Pericles]

In regards to the Turkish/al-Qaeda/Nuke bombs connections, as revealed in the February 2001 East Africa bombing trial testimony of Jamal al Fadl -- an al Qaeda operative in charge of weapons development in Sudan -- uranium used in "dirty bombs" that release lethal radioactive material, had been tested in 1994 by members of the Sudan-based Islamic National Front in the town of Hilat Koko, in Turkish-held northern Cyprus.

Read also: Turkish Police Detain Suspects Selling Uranium

and,

Bin Laden In Turkey Twice

[rebdov]

For a couple bucks and a gaggle of expert opinions you can get to ride on a NYC subway. We haven't got a clue, but we hope to G-d that the barbarians don't have nukes.

[Random Access]

Well, on the bright side, if they try to smuggle the suitcase nukes into this country as checked baggage, there is a good chance it will be sent to the Land-of-Lost-Luggage or someplace like Aruba.

[Fusion]

Islamic entente forces have "Allah's Suitcase" and they will use it to stagger the West. There is absolutely no defence versus this weapon other than superior counter-intelligence work, which does not exist in the West now -- Washington is wise to slowly prepare the American people for the unfolding of this nightmare scenario.

No doubt several will babble about how "if" this occurs America will unleash its vast nuclear arsenal in response. Sure they will. Who are they going to nuke bubba?

Afghanistan? Iraq? Iran? An old apartment in Baku?

The ex-KGB thug arrives in America with this topic on the agenda. Putin in an excellent position to tell the modern day Bismarck whatever story best suits the interests of the Russian federation. He should start with the truth for once.

Islamic entente operatives have acquired several suitcase nuclear devices during the last few years. These weapons are already in America and will be activated in an atttack designed to kill tens of thousands of Americans while doing maximum damage to the US economy.

No need to repeat once again the suspected primary targets of these bombings. The list is drawn from where "reliable" intelligence sources advise the CIA the devices reached the US and UK -- it is assumed they have not moved significant distances since their entry.

Who really knows the targets though except the cells planning to activate them?

These one to one point five kiloton blasts will remake the world and send mankind hurtling towards a modern day Dark Age. The West will be unable to retaliate because they have no one to strike.

After the dust clears and the carnage is fully realized, Osama bin Laden will go on television and tell the world he is planning to open "Allah's Suitcase" again unless the US agrees to pull out of Saudi Arabia and does. After twenty thousand are killed and a hundred thousand exposed to radiation poisoning, the American public won't give a damn about the corrupt Saudi government then and will demand US withdrawl a la Vietnam.

Game, set, and match. The war will be over and then everyone can get back to their business. The West will be humbled and a new Islamic force will swirl through the Middle East.

Should the West not back down then much of the "civilised" world will be destroyed in World War III. Interestingly, the Islamic entente is satisified with either scenario -- Dark Age or peace.

The West has no answer for this next strike. Bravo to President Bush for being honest with Americans and preparing them for these attacks in such a sensible and mature fashion.

The forces of freedom on the move. Europe trembles.

[Leonora]

You know what? I actually believe every word you said. I think the West should stop meddling into the Middle East and Balkans immediately, otherwise we are all doomed... and there will be nobody's forces on the move, just the world will tremble....

[mlocher]

There is no defense against these except superior intelligence

these creeps would push a button and eliminate all americans if they could. they can't so they will be as disruptive as possible. superior intelligence is part of the solution, but we must pre-emptively take out as many terrorists as we can. by eliminating them, we don't have to worry about what they are doing.

[Smogger]

Game, set, and match. The war will be over and then everyone can get back to their business. The West will be humbled and a new Islamic force will swirl through the Middle East.

Damn! Fusion. Your predictions are even grimmer than mine. I agree with you that Osama has already acquired nuclear weapons though. I expect that they acquired existing suitcase nukes or other full functional warheads that they were able to either bypass the safeguards or they transferred the nuclear material to another device.

I discussed why I thought It is folly to assume that Osama does not have nuclear capability because he has not demonstated it yet in this thread:

Why Terrorists Would Use Nuclear Weapons Last

Let's face facts boys and girls. Osama has nukes. There have been numerous reports over the last 6 or 7 years indicating "foiled" attempts by Islamic extremists to acquire nuclear weapons and you know what that means? For every "foiled" attempt there were probably 4 or more successful attempts. That is the nature of smuggling. It's just like drugs. If the demand is there.. and the money is right well...

At any rate is just wishful thinking to assume that Osama does not posess nuclear capability.

[dennisw]

Incorrect. The US will react to the number of deaths and will humble the Arab and Islamic world. In a war of who humbles who the most we will win. We will also take over many Arab oil fields.

[Smogger]

I continued this theme in The Turkish Nuclear Bazaar Part II

[Nate505]

I'm no expert in nuclear weapons, but what I've heard about them is that you can't just buy these suitcase nukes and keep them in the closet for years until you decide you want to use them. They have to be maintained like 2 or so times a year by someone with a significant amount of technological expertise. The longer he holds out on using them, the more likely they will become useless weapons. Someone correct me if I'm wrong....

[Dan Cooper]

If this is the case, then why the wait? How come they haven't set off a nuke yet? Why open the engagement with the airliner attacks?

[longleaf]

I think that the "Islamic entente," as Fusion calls it, actually thought we might be thinking about withdrawing from Saudi Arabia already by now. They didn't think they'd need to go nuclear to achieve that.

My vote would be for a new "Dark Ages" given the choices, because every time the U.S. is hit, we will do the exact opposite of what ObL expects, i.e., bombing will intensify and spread to more countries.

We are on the verge of spiralling downward. We may look back on 2001 as the apex of human civilization.

[Smogger]

I'm no expert in nuclear weapons, but what I've heard about them is that you can't just buy these suitcase nukes and keep them in the closet for years until you decide you want to use them. They have to be maintained like 2 or so times a year by someone with a significant amount of technological expertise. The longer he holds out on using them, the more likely they will become useless weapons. Someone correct me if I'm wrong....

I am not an expert either. I think that it is safe to assume that Bin Laden's organazation has acquired a variety of nuclear materials and perhaps complete weapons. But more recent articles suggest that he now has the technical expertise to construst, maintain, and detonate the devices.

[Pericles]

Awesome work. I am very grateful to you for your effort.

[Nate505]

It's possible. I'd like to see us come up with some sort of detection technology for these weapons, although I don't know if it is practical or feasable....

[George W. Bush]

"I think the difficult thing for us all to come to grips with, that, my God, would people really want to kill thousands or tens of thousands of Americans," Allison said.

What is the surprise here? The Rat party with the abortion industry and the sodomite camp and all their dupes (i.e. soccer mommies and Million Moron Moms) like to kill over a million unborn Americans every year and want to export the practice worldwide.

Our national enthusiasm for preserving life is pretty selective.

[riri]

Should the West not back down then much of the "civilised" world will be destroyed in World War III

Wishful thinking on your part. You talk as if OBL has a nuclear arsenal at his fingertips. You honestly think Americans are going to say "back off, give ém whatever they want?" I case you haven´t noticed ALOT of American´s want BLOOD for 9.11-one nuke goes off anywhere in the Western hemispere and I predict you will see (right or wrong) American streets filled with Arab blood.

[George W. Bush]

one nuke goes off anywhere in the Western hemispere and I predict you will see (right or wrong) American streets filled with Arab blood.

I don't know about that. I do know that Osama would exploit that. It would fit his purposes perfectly. I think that the lack of solidarity among Arab nationals and Muslims in general is unappreciated in America. They are very divided and callous toward their own. I'm sure all the anti-American regimes are making propaganda out of the smallest Arab-bashing incidents and entirely ignoring all the kissing-up going on with Amreican Muslims and Arabs.

Bin Laden doesn't care anything about Americans. Any Arabs living in America are only important if they will work for him or if he can exploit them for propaganda. Remember a few days ago when that young Arab, whose mother almost was killed in WTC, went off and joined up with bin Laden so he could kill Americans? That's Osama's idea of a useful American.

We shouldn't be too content with the idea of becoming as crude as our enemies. That's how they win, by reducing their victims to their level as they have done with Israelis. We should make them die in large numbers.

I would expect that terrorist strongholds and camps in Kosovo, Chechnya, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, etc. will be nuked if Allah's suitcase is used in America. Or if it is used in Europe or to de-stabilize Saudi Arabia/Kuwait.

[riri]

I don´t know, American´s are pretty angry. Oh sure, the vast majority are still snoozing but quite a few have awoken. I saw the president´s speech last night and anytime he said anything that had a drop of testosterone in it, the crowd showed great amounts of approval. I really got the feeling he couldn´t have said anything strong enough to satisfy that particular audience.

After the next attack, I would not want to be an Arab or Muslim living in America.