The "Harry Potter" Debate: The Witch-Hunt Continues

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[jrherreid]

Let the fireworks begin...

[jrherreid]

Zap!

[Dat]

90% of posts on Harry Potter are posted by people trying to provoke others. I thought we were supposed to grow out of that by age 12.

[DoughtyOne]

Chistian fundamentalism? I can see both sides of this arguement, but find it as interesting to see people refer to Christians using the fundamentalism descriptor as other see it interesting to see the Potter fans refered to as the devil's disciples. If this debate can't be kept on the merits it isn't going to do either side any good.

[jrherreid]

90% of posts on Harry Potter are posted by people trying to provoke others. I thought we were supposed to grow out of that by age 12.

Provocative statement, that.

[JPR_Boise_ID]

No fireworks ... I think its actually more benign.

They're trying to send a message about the general scarcity of values in the modern mass media.
It's not so much anti-"Harry Potter" per se as it is just using the hype surrounding Harry Potter to get out their message ... good marketing, it gets people to actually read their opinions.

When the excitement surrounding HP dies down, you'll see the same opinions attached to anti-"Lord of the Rings" messages or whatever the next new "hot" movie or book is.

[Ronaldus Magnus]

From the article:
The "Harry Potter" debate is only one form of the ongoing conflict between Christian fundamentalism and secular Western culture.

As an assenting Roman Catholic, I would like to apologize for this poor-excuse-of-a-priest's bigoted religious slur against other well meaning Christians. Every apple basket seems to contain a few rotten ones. This one is just dressed in black.

[Exigence]

I would like to apologize for this poor-excuse-of-a-priest's bigoted religious slur against other well meaning Christians.

Okay, okay, help me out. How did this priest slur us "well meaning Christians"?

[Theresa]

"Chistian fundamentalism? "

Yes exactly!!! As someone said not long ago it was Jack Chick who got the anti-Halloween bandwagon rolling. (Mainly to bash the Catholic Church's celebrating All Souls Day and All Saints Day.) And his outfit is typically fundamentalist. So much so that all of his screeds should be published in a book called, "Christianity for Dummies."

But fundamentalism is not just a Protestant phenomenon. There are Catholic Christian fundamentalists too. (Many Catholics get this way because they are trying to appease their Protestant friends. To which I say BAH!!! Don't apologise for ANYTHING!! ) And I think a common denominator among them is a morbid interest in the occult and the devil. Yes I said interest. Because they ARE interested in it although that interest is anti-occult. They are almost as superstitious as the people who are really into the occult.

I knew some fundamentalists who actually burned a little wooden statue of Buddah because they claimed it had demons hanging around it. Stuff like that does not even enter my mind. I got have better things to think about than demons!!! It's a wood carving in the same way that Harry Potter is a fairy tale.

[Theresa]

"I would like to apologize for this poor-excuse-of-a-priest's bigoted religious slur against other well meaning Christians"

Not me. I think he's right on the money.

[4Freedom]

My problem with "Harry Potter" is that, even though it so blatantly rips-off "Star Wars", somehow the rip-off is such a stinker of a movie. It's almost as if they were so guilt ridden they were compelled to make another "Water World".

I guess it's not as easy as remove "Darth Vader", "Obi Wan Kenobi", "Luke Skywalker" and "Princess Lea", etc. and insert "Lord Voldemort", Headmaster Dumbledore", "Harry Potter" and "Hermione Grainger". "Jedi" out, "Wizards" in.

The lack of character development in this 2 1/2 hour debacle of a movie was ghastly.

Harry Potter critics have no fear. No magic here, at all. No talent either.

[DoughtyOne]

Thanks for your comments. The Friar may actually have made some descent points, I just don't want to spend the time to argue this topic again tonight.

Folks, words like fundamentalist, zealots et al are used the same way liberals use the word conservative to tag Republicans at every opportunity.

For instance, a Republican on television will be introduced as a "Conservative" Republican when Democrat will NEVER be introduce as a "Liberal." These guys are simply playing the mind games of the socialist left. Mention the term conservative over and over in this manner and it becomes negative. This Friar may not even realize what he's doing, although I suspect he does. But make no mistake about it, there is a movement in this nation, and outside this nation, to lump all religions into one radical group.

Take special care to note how our religions are being besmirched by using some of the same tags as are being attached to the Taliban and Al Qaida. Note the term fundamentalist Muslem for instance. The word fundamentalist is being given a very bad conotation right now. And you can be certain that it will nearly always be applied to any religious person or group that supports what most of us would consider descent ideals.

Individuals and churches that view homosexuality and abortion in unfavorable light, will always be set up by the use of the word fundamentalist in their introduction or description of who and what they are.

The UN is rabidly anti-religion. We are buying into the globalist UN mentality. That's why religion is in for a tough time. I'd advise everyone to keep their eyes open.

This Friar's use of the word fundamentalist was a good example of what to watch for.

[DoughtyOne]

If the term fundamentalist were to be used sparingly, I wouldn't have a problem with it. But it is beginning to be used to describe any and all religions that have stuck to the old values system. Good heavens, if Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson make some hair brained commment, they're roasted for months over it. However, that idiot Congressman Drynan was forgiven for decades worth of tripe uttered from a leftist socialist's point of view. And much of it made Falwell and Robertson look like choir boys.

[Ronaldus Magnus]

If this fruit cake with a clerical collar wants to make unfounded assertions about conservative Catholics, it's an internal matter. However, when this representative of my faith starts making negative over generalizations about a class of other denominations, he is picking a fight he doesn't have the authority to start. Whether you agree with his viewpoint or not, it is irrelevant to my statement. He is being anti-ecumenical while speaking under the auspices of his official capacity. I am making it clear to the non-Catholics reading this that he is unauthorized to do so. Christian fundamentalists have done much to develop western culture during the last several hundred years, particularly in their role in the development of this country (perhaps even more than the members of my own faith).

[Ronaldus Magnus]

Good explanation of the new "f" word.

[DoughtyOne]

Thanks. And yes, I guess it is being turned into a new "f" word. That's too bad.

[Theresa]

"However, when this representative of my faith starts making negative over generalizations about a class of other denominations,"

This from the Zogby site: American Catholics look more favorably on Muslims and Mormons than they do on fundamentalist Christians, according to a new poll on political, cultural and moral trends in Catholic life.

A nationwide phone survey of 1,508 Roman Catholics found 56% had a favorable impression of Islam. Similar majorities had a favorable view of Mormons (54%), Buddhists (57%) and Hindus (54%), but only 46% of Catholics had a favorable view of fundamentalist Christians.

[MetalHeadConservative35]

harry potter is the devil...harry potter is bad harry potter is teaching kids magic

why dont they just leave it alone..my sister loves that movie and i dont see her practicing magic or trying to.

is there no end to the madness?

[Aquinasfan]

Sounds like HLI gets it right as usual. I'll have to check out the review.