Skip to comments.Camp for Nude Witches Fights Closing
Posted on 11/28/2001 5:56:58 AM PST by Cagey
LEAVENWORTH, Kan. (Reuters) - A Kansas retreat that caters to witches and pagan rituals is fighting for survival amid community talk that naked witches may be weaving magical spells in the moonlight.
The owners of the Gaea Retreat Center, a 168-acre camp west of Kansas City that is home to such annual events as the Gaea Goddess Gathering and a "Heartland Pagan Spiritual event" filed suit on Monday in Leavenworth County District Court after county commissioners effectively put the retreat out of business by denying it a renewal of its land use permit.
"They say they're afraid of us, what we do here, the sound of drums. ... They don't know how lucky they are to have us as their neighbors," caretaker Wanda Roths said. "We're very quiet, very peaceful. There has never been any trouble out here."
The Leavenworth County commissioners denied the renewal for the permit, issued six years ago, in late October after a community petition raised accusations that the retreat fostered public nudity, pedophilia, and illegal drug and alcohol use. Neighbors also expressed concern about devil worship.
The suit claims the commissioners' denial is illegal and unconstitutional, as well as violating laws protecting freedom of religious expression and practice.
Lawyers for the county declined to comment.
The retreat denies any illegal activity, and county officials say there is no evidence of any.
Roths said there are "clothing optional" locations on the retreat grounds, and witches, Wiccans and other pagans do sometimes hold nighttime meetings around bonfires. But the retreat at times also attracts more traditional religious followers, she said.
Gaea, which means "Mother Earth," offers sanctuary to a variety of alternative religions and lifestyles, according to Roths. "We accept anybody," she said.
Before its current incarnation, the sprawling site was a church camp.
I'm sorry, I never knew that nude witches fought. Is that something like mud or jello wrestling? (PAUSE)
Ohhh... Camp for Nude Witches Fights Closing.
Ofcourse you would say that. We all know what GW stands for. Why not defend porn and kiddie porn with the 1st ammendment now?
Earlier you stated that when the fundamental constitutional rights of others are violated you would "...look the other way". Yet you creech about the ACLU.
I am an athiest, and I really don't care what superstition you wish to follow. I think that they're the psychological and philosophical equivalents of security blankets. I will, however, defend to the death your right to believe what you will and worship as you will. I do that because I live in this country and happend to believe strongly in the right of people to assemble and do whatever the hell they want in their private lives. I also believe that if we ever lost that right myself and my fellow athiests would be some of the first against the wall.
These pagans aren't hurting anyone, and I fail to see why you object so strongly to their right to assemble and worship as they will in private.
Your kind of "I'm a Christian before I'm an American" pap is what makes me think that the ACLU might not be wrong in keeping religion out of public life.
YOU mentioned God and Adam, and the fact that Adam is nude in the painting. THAT's what I quoted and responded to.
Self-righteous, slack-jawed blowhard.
The reporter is confused: since the Clintons left, we no longer have such things in the White House...
For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, fornication, theft, murder, adultery, coveting, wickedness, deceit, licentiousness, envy, slander, pride, foolishness. All these evil things come from within, and they defile a man. - Mark 7:21-23 (NAS)
And while I get what you're trying to imply being a "fool for Christ" as in:
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. - 1 Corinthians 1:18 (KJV)
That's a far cry from Christians being a "foolish" people.
fool-ish adj.. 1. Lacking or exhibiting a lack of good sense or judgment; silly. 2. Resulting from stupidity or misinformation; unwise. 3. Arousing laughter; absurd or ridiculous. 4. Immoderate or subborn; unreasonable. 5. Embarrassed, abashed. 6 Insignificant; trivial.
American Heritage College Dictionary, Third Edition.
It's a word game. But your use of the word made it sound like we're supposed to be stupid.
|If you believe that biblewonk was merely "quoting from the article", then it is you who has problems with reading comprehension. I refer you to post #21 by biblewonk:
Yep, he's really quoting form the article there!
I, myself, find that hard to believe as well (The part about my still being here).
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