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To: bray
Amorality is part of witchcraft. Are there any signs of that in Harry Potter?
22 posted on 11/28/2001 6:40:51 AM PST by biblewonk
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To: biblewonk
"No more nude Sun Run. No more Gaea Goddess Gathering or Midwest Men's Naturists conclave. And it will be so long and farewell to Celtic dance and spirit drumming beneath the stars on a 180-acre spread that some say is "as close to heaven as you can find in the state of Kansas." #1. These people are out in the middle of a 180 acre wooded area, How does the community know anything illegal is going on out there unless they have been there? Be honest, they are after these people because they dont like what they believe in. #2. What is immoral or amoral about nudity?? Were you born with a three piece suit on?? #3. This is not about the campground, this is about intolerance from the religious right in the community. There is no evidence presented in this article, that shows the people who use this retreat in any way force their beliefs on this community. They do not enter the town nude or conduct their services in the middle of the town. This is the problem with the religious right, Ive have debated folks on here about different topics in regards to religion. I have always supported the right of religious conservatives to associate or disassociate with whomever the choose, I support the Boy Scouts in their fight to exclude homosexuals. I have always been told by my friends on the religious right, that it isnt about religion it's about the left forcing their anti-religious bigotry on the Christian community, I have agreed with them and supported them. However I defy any religious conservative to defend this town. If it isnt about religion in this case, what is it? These people brought property out away from everyone else to practice their religious beliefs as they see fit. These people in the town are using the drug abuse, child abuse and satan worship to attack these folks, like the FEDS used that angle to go after the Davidians. This is the moment of truth for the folks who told me it isnt about religion, If you were honest then, then you cant support this decision by these board members.
28 posted on 11/28/2001 7:12:28 AM PST by All-American Medic
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To: biblewonk
"Amorality is part of Witchcraft."

Let's not over generalize here. I happen to have known a number of neo-pagans, including some wiccans (no Satanists, though), and they have their rules of morality. The principle one is 'reciprocity', which generally means that 'what you do unto others will be done unto you.' This leads to the admonition to follow the Golden Rule in initiating any actions which effect others, but allows them to return good for good and evil for evil.

There is among the general catagory, a sub-group which tends towards sexual licience: fetility cultists, kundalini-energy exchangers, that sort of thing. I cynically concluded that a fair percentage of these had no particular interest in neo-paganism as a belief system, but were mainly interested in the 'sex, drugs and rock-and-roll.'

As with anything involving human beings, there is a very broad range of beliefs, social attitudes, and practices. Some of them were very socially conservative, others more like the libertarians on this board, and some very rebellious and anti-social. I gather from their writings that the Satanists and the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn (Crowleyites) were/are considered outrageous and negative even by their standards. (L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology, was said to have been a Crowleyite back in the 40's).
264 posted on 11/28/2001 11:25:54 AM PST by VietVet
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