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To: biblewonk
"Amorality is part of Witchcraft."

Let's not over generalize here. I happen to have known a number of neo-pagans, including some wiccans (no Satanists, though), and they have their rules of morality. The principle one is 'reciprocity', which generally means that 'what you do unto others will be done unto you.' This leads to the admonition to follow the Golden Rule in initiating any actions which effect others, but allows them to return good for good and evil for evil.

There is among the general catagory, a sub-group which tends towards sexual licience: fetility cultists, kundalini-energy exchangers, that sort of thing. I cynically concluded that a fair percentage of these had no particular interest in neo-paganism as a belief system, but were mainly interested in the 'sex, drugs and rock-and-roll.'

As with anything involving human beings, there is a very broad range of beliefs, social attitudes, and practices. Some of them were very socially conservative, others more like the libertarians on this board, and some very rebellious and anti-social. I gather from their writings that the Satanists and the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn (Crowleyites) were/are considered outrageous and negative even by their standards. (L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology, was said to have been a Crowleyite back in the 40's).
264 posted on 11/28/2001 11:25:54 AM PST by VietVet
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To: VietVet
What a pleasure it is, sir, to actually come across someone who knows something about the topic instead of simply taking the Fretard party line.

The 3 fold rule and "an it harm none, do thy own will" parts of paganism fall apart because of how harm is defined. They get to decide what is good for a person and what is bad. It turns out that the thy own will part is the most important part. It is the very heart of rebellion against who God is. Even regarding their sexual promiscuity, they define sex as a meaningless act therefore they can do it with whoever they want as much as they want and call it harmless. Either that or they can define it as magic and do it with who ever they want as much as they want and call it a positive energy producing ritual. Actual right and wrong are totally lost in such mumbo jumbo.

298 posted on 11/28/2001 12:03:47 PM PST by biblewonk
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