Posted on 12/06/2001 9:37:13 PM PST by spycatcher
Chachapoya - the blond and andenkrieger Saturday, 12 August 2000, 20,15 o'clock, on the Bavarian television 28,07,2000 - 13 o'clock
It is a sensation find: Before two years forest workers find gold decoration to precious materials, ceramic(s) by coincidence at the Kondorsee in the north of Peru burial places with hundreds of mummies, and probably also. It concerns the people of the Chachapoya, which of Chronisten as unusually lightmembranous, rather blond, were high-grown and described particularly martially. But from where they came? Who were the ancestors of the Chachapoya after 600-jaehriger the rule in the second half 15. Century by epidemics were exterminated?
further press releases: As from that anything did not emerge they about 800 after Christi at the east edge of the Anden, with a culture, which differs fundamentally from all other advanced cultures of South America. It is obvious, the roots of their civilization must because of another place be. Until today their origin is unsettled. The few researchers, who deal with themselves with the people of the Chachapoya, express only assumptions.
Thus the American adventurer and amateur archaeologist of genes Savoy represent the thesis that they could descend from Phoeniziern and Karthagern. Parallel ones in the type of the burial places, in the architectural style and in the ornamentations are remarkable. But the Phoenizier was not dealer, krieger and additionally was dark their hair.
The Kelten however, from which the Chachapoya could descend according to a second theory, was like the puzzling and people as particularly martial notorious. For the Kelten as ancestors speaks also the similarity of the dwellings and the weapons, which used the two peoples as can be prove. But how calculated the Kelten to to the east edge of the Anden came?
A third thesis, which is simply and at the same time the most plausible, would be conceivable. Afterwards the Romans fought against the Karthager in the second century before Christ, whose Verbuendetete was the Kelten. After the victory of the Romans a part of the karthagischen fleet could be broken open, in order a new, guarantees Roman-free homeland up looking. The descendants of these karthagischen and keltischen expedition members would then sometime have achieved the area at the east edge of the Anden, in which the Chachapoya did not emerge before 1200 years as from that anything, with a culture, which striking similarities with that the Phoenizier and that indicate the Kelten.
I have read some anthropologist speculate that King Solomon's famous gold mines were at the head waters of the Amazon River.
Further, if you consider that there have been five worldwide catasthropic events (some call them near extinction events) in the last 10k years, it would seem that contact and even knowledge of contact with people on other continents would be lost. There would be exiled populations of various races/cultures of people all over the world, which is what we find.....and then the cycle begins again until the next catastrophe.
Some DNA evidence suggests that as few as 5,000 people worldwide survived at least one of these events. Some events were more serious than others and the 'post-event' remaining population would be different for each event.
The dates for these events as recorded in the tree ring and ice core data are: 3195BC, 2354BC, 1628BC, 1159BC and 540AD. There were two less severe (minor) events at 207BC and 44BC.
very interesting
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The Chachapoyan Federation once dominated the jungle-covered Montana region of northeastern Peru. They existed in Peru for at least a thousand years (c. 600 A.D.), but some Peruvian officials have claimed at least 2300 years. Spanish and Incan chroniclers made only brief and vague references to them, but they described them physically as being tall and fair skinned (the remains of their mummies verify this). Some have speculated that their land was the Biblical Ophir, others that they were the descendants of Phoenician, Egyptian, Celtic or even Atlantean colonists (they have access to the Atlantic via the Maranon and Amazon rivers). They may have been the "cousins" of the Incas and/or Chavin. There is also the possibility that the Caucasian race migrated both to America and Europe from some third location.
The Chachapoyans(1) were conquered by the Incas around 1475-1480 A.D. by Topa Inca (also known as Tupac Inca and Tupac Yupanqui(2)). Ironically, the Chachapoyans goodwill towards the Chancas may have led to their downfall. The Chancas were the archenemies of the Incas and most were wiped out by the Incas; but some took refuge in the southern portions of the Chachapoyan confederation. Years later the Incas pursued the Chancas by building a military road in the area (Von Hagen wrote that, "Hate and fear had built this road."). Unfortunately, this road also gave access for the mighty armies of the Inca to the cities of the Chachapoyans.
When the Spaniards arrived the Chachapoyans first fought with them against the Incas as allies and then against them. Many Chachapoyans probably died from the European brought small pox virus which devastated Peru just before Pizarro's landing(3). In December of 1532, a detachment of Spaniards under Hernando de Soto first visited the area(4). The Chachapoyans held out against the Spaniards with the Incas of Vilcabamba and were not completely conquered until the capture of the last Inca, Tupac Amaru, in 1572 (or possibly later). Evidence of their independence and alliance with the Neo-Incan Empire can be seen from the recently discovered Chachapoyan/Incan tombs at Leimebamba near the heart of the Chachapoyan lands.
Although little is known about them, the region is stilled filled with the remains of their circular buildings, temples, and forts. What they left behind suggests that they were a very religious or mystical race.
Their vast jungle and mountain kingdoms virtually disappeared during the Spanish conquest of Peru. They are to this day an enigmatic people who were nearly forgotten by time.
The Mysterious Petroglyphs of the Chachapoyans
There are two categories of Chachapoyan glyphs. There are basic pictoglyphs and there are glyphs that appear to be letters of some sort. The pictoglyphs were probably used as mnemonic devices to help the ancients recall stories, prophecies, and histories. The letter-like glyphs may have spelled out whole words, or, like ancient Hebrew, they may represent only part of the word and again act mainly as a mnemonic device. Unfortunately we do not have a Chachapoyan Rosetta stone to solve the mystery of these glyphs.
Some have attempted to crack the code by using Inca, Semitic, Celtic, and Universal symbology as their guide. One reader of Ancient American translates "The Wall" in issue 22 as follows: The "hare" figure is symbolic of a solar storm, which has occurred during various major historical events, such as the destruction of the Temple Mount and the Mayan civilization. The next solar "coronal mass ejection is scheduled for December 1999 through July 2000."
Using Carl G. Liungman's Dictionary of Symbols as my primary source, I came up with another, possible, meaning to that same portion of "The Wall" near San Pablo. Assuming general or universal interpretation, the symbols tell a story of a very significant person who came to the Chachapoyans and will come again (or has already come again). The sun or a comet is also tied into the story somehow.
Many Chachapoyan glyphs bear a striking resemblance to Aryan/Celtic and Semitic glyphs. However, many of these may be just coincidences. For example, if you told a person in Africa to tell a story with symbols and a person in South America to tell a similar story with symbols the two resulting products would probably bear similarities; even though the two people had no contact or knowledge of each other. Nevertheless, the similarities between Chachapoyan glyphs and some Inca, Celtic, early Christian, and other civilizations are uncanny and warrants further investigation.
...snip...
And they came to Ophir,
and fetched from thence gold,
four hundred and twenty talents,
and brought it to king Solomon..
I Kings 9:27,28
Mike
Click here: 'Gods, Graves, Glyphs'
AMAZON is showing it out of print, but it can't have been out of print that long. Worth looking for, IMHO.
Yup. Have my own copy. He has 2-3 other less know books on the same subjsct. Gloria Farley has some interesting 'stuff' also.
Seems like Dr. Fell was a Prof at Harvard and upset all sorts of Academic types, which is a good starting point. Whether or not you buy all his conclusions, his research is most interesting...
What did she write?
"Noah...how long can you tread water?"
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