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They Actually Said It: The British ruling classes put you and me at risk in their quest for glory
Antiwar.com ^ | December 10, 2001 | Emmanuel Goldstein

Posted on 12/10/2001 11:41:42 AM PST by H.R. Gross

Airstrip One
by Emmanuel Goldstein
Antiwar.com

December 10, 2001

They Actually Said It
The British ruling classes put you and me at risk in their quest for glory

It was David Blunkett, the British Home Secretary, who said it. When talking about secret service information he opined "that information tells us that because of our alliance – quite rightly – with the United States and because of our vulnerability we are at risk". Now hang on a minute, weren't we fighting "shoulder to shoulder" with America because it was in our national interest? This is an important point. The whole thrust of our involvement in the Afghanistan adventure has been to make us safer from attack. Now I may be a bear of little brain, but how exactly does an increased risk of attack make us safer?

Now for those with short memories, I will recap what our leaders have told us about this threat. Iain Duncan Smith, the opposition leader, claimed that the Afghan adventure "is about ensuring that in a few years' time we are not faced with a much greater threat to our way of life".

St. Tony Blair, the Prime Minister, enthused to Parliament "we will act because for the protection of our people ... we need to eliminate the threat Bin Laden and his terrorism represent." Fairly clear? And the foreign secretary, Jack Straw, claimed "in these four weeks the world has become a very much safer place and Afghanistan a very much happier place." However David Blunkett, in a moment of exasperation, has unwound this, or has he?

Now some things may be said about what was said. For Tony Blair there is nothing that can be said in his mitigation, he lied to Parliament. The fact that Parliament is foolish, or more likely craven, enough to swallow the idea that by allying with America we would somehow make ourselves safer – says as much about Parliament as it does about Blair. Iain Duncan Smith has a get-out clause, as he is talking longer term than the next month – although surely any un-addressed revolutionary impulse will be undisturbed in the long term. It is Jack Straw's claim that shows how little our elite care for our interests. There is a mention of world safety and Afghan happiness, but nothing about British security. It is so true when it is said that the British Foreign office is there for the interests of foreigners.

Of course, the idea that our participation in this adventure would improve our security is farcical. The case could be made that the Afghan adventure would improve America's security, America was already a primary target. It could further be argued that a prompt and open disengagement from Israel, Iraq and Saudi Arabia would serve America's interest as poorly as her perpetual presence in the Middle East. The smoke screen for disengagement may be to pulverise the most active terrorist conspiracy and fry its leader. Nevertheless, none of this answers the question of why it is in Britain's interests.

The short answer is that it is not in Britain's interest to be involved. Britain was not a primary target, no matter what is said by the sophists who point at the British passport holders killed in the World Trade Centre, neither is she particularly associated with the causes that the Islamicists oppose. Britain, as the Home Secretary finally admits, has been made a target by its government. What does the government have to gain from this? Tony Blair can get an ovation in Congress and his foreign secretary can go around the Middle East acting as America's ambassador. I am sure it is a boost to the ego, but what about the public that they are meant to serve? Well, the increased risk of anthrax in the water supply or chemical weapons on the London Underground. Was it really worth that?



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1 posted on 12/10/2001 11:41:42 AM PST by H.R. Gross
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To: H.R. Gross
Sucking up to terrorists in the hopes they won't attack is NOT in Britain's self-interest.
2 posted on 12/10/2001 11:45:25 AM PST by xm177e2
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To: H.R. Gross
The whole thrust of our involvement in the Afghanistan adventure has been to make us safer from attack. Now I may be a bear of little brain, but how exactly does an increased risk of attack make us safer?

By strict application of Goldstein's ridiculous logic one concludes that Britain should have surrendered to the nazis without a shot -- after all, to do otherwise definitely placed Britain at risk.

Not that it would have been an altogether bad thing: the anti-semitic results of a British surrender might have spared us the pain of reading Goldstein's commentary....

3 posted on 12/10/2001 11:53:04 AM PST by r9etb
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To: H.R. Gross
With bonnie Prince Charlie itching to become "Guardian Of The Faiths (plural) this nincompoop might be excused being another "girly-man".

What part of "state-sponsored" in state-sponsored terrorism does he not understand? Or is he merely an apologist for islamism?

4 posted on 12/10/2001 11:54:08 AM PST by onedoug
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To: H.R. Gross
Dumb. Focusing on one OBL statement. Others from him and others state that England, west, India, Australia were always targets. His ideas are being formed not by OBL's plans, but where he was temporarily successful.

BTW, isn't "Emmanuel Goldstein" the name of the communist turned "traitor" to the comuunist party that ruled Oceania in George Orwell's book 1984???

5 posted on 12/10/2001 11:58:06 AM PST by Shermy
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To: Shermy
isn't "Emmanuel Goldstein" the name of the communist turned "traitor"

Nice catch.  Goldstein is the pseudonym
of a former member of the Labor party
who is familiar with Blair.

7 posted on 12/10/2001 12:13:43 PM PST by gcruse
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To: H.R. Gross
By this logic we shouldn't have gone to war at Britain's side against the Nazis, who, after all weren't after us, yet. And Osama wasn't after Britain. Yet.
8 posted on 12/10/2001 12:16:14 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: H.R. Gross
The UK remains a world power thanks to American support. They are allied to the US via NATO, which obligates them to come to our aid if we are attacked. On September 11th, the US was attacked. Thus the UK was OBLIGATED to come to our aid.
Mr. Goldstein is a socialist who misses the Anglo-Soviet Allience.
As for Mr. Duncan Smith, I shant be happy with him until he is Prime Minister.
9 posted on 12/10/2001 12:21:34 PM PST by rmlew
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To: H.R. Gross
Aside from the obvious insanity of the author's position on this whole war, he should have at least considered the following argument in favor of the U.K.'s involvement, which is when the U.S. sneezes, whoever is closest to her is going to catch a cold. If the U.S. suffers, for whatever reason it is, the U.K. is going to suffer, along with the rest of the world.
10 posted on 12/10/2001 12:23:13 PM PST by wimpycat
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To: boston_liberty
Made him up? Could be. I also read an idea that he represented Karl Marx, being the kind of Karl who said later in his life "I am not a Marxist."
11 posted on 12/10/2001 1:23:51 PM PST by Shermy
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To: H.R. Gross
Throughout the early stages of WWII, the Germans would have been thrilled if Britain had quit fighting them. They really didn't want to fight the UK. In Hitler's ideology, the British were supposed to control the overseas sub-humans, just as the Germans were supposed to control those in Europe.

The second-in-command in Germany actually made a secret night flight to arrange a cease-fire.

Would abandonment of the fight against Germany have been in the short-term secutiry interests of Britain? Obviously it would have been. Luckily, Churchill and the rest of the Brits were smart enough to see that a world dominated by Nazis would have no place for them in the long run. A short term risk was necessary for any chance of long-term security.

The parallels are obvious.

12 posted on 12/10/2001 1:50:39 PM PST by Restorer
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To: wimpycat
nicely put.
14 posted on 12/10/2001 2:09:50 PM PST by Enemy Of The State
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