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American Taliban John Walker left behind a trail of Internet postings that detail his transformation
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Posted on 12/11/2001 6:25:48 PM PST by Maxpowers

Internet Traces His Path to Taliban Turncoat Yank's switch from hip-hop fan to Islam

WASHINGTON

American Taliban John Walker left behind a trail of Internet postings that detail his transformation from a rabid hip-hop fan who posed as black to a Muslim fanatic who decided music was sinful.

Along the way, he sold off his music and comic book collections and traded in music synthesizers and drum machines for weighty tomes about Islam and freemasonry.

His last postings find him condemning American clothing, Disneyland, "modernists," homosexuality, the Nation of Islam and Zionists

As he sits in U.S. custody near Kandahar, Afghanistan, while the nation debates whether he is a traitor or a mixed-up kid, Walker's Internet writings open a small window into how he got there.

Walker, 20, published several dozen messages between 1995 and 1998 on Usenet discussion groups, which are archived at http://groups.google.com. He used several accounts, including his mother's. His main handle was "doodoo@hooked.net"

Over the years, Walker signed himself variously as John Lindh, John Doe, Disciple of the Englober, Hine E. Craque, Prof. J and Br. Suleyman Al-Mujahid.

His earliest posts were in music groups, where the affluent white California teen peppered his posts with gangsta slang.

"That whole rhyme was saying essentially that all black people should just stop being black and that'd solve all our problems," he scolded an amateur rapper in 1995, when he was 14. "Our blackness does not make white people hate us, it is THEIR racism that causes the hate."

Of the N-word, he wrote: "It has, for hundreds of years been a label put on us by Caucasians ...and because of the weight it carries with it, I never use it myself."

Many Questions

Many of his early postings were about buying and selling high-tech music gadgets.

"I don't know what a TalkBox is, or how it works, but I know what it sounds like and I want one. If it has pieces that fit inside your mouth, I don't care. I can find a way of cleaning it. I want a TalkBox. Sell me one. Thank you," he wrote in March 1997.

But Islam was quickly becoming his main focus.

In July 1996, he asked: "I've heard recently that certain musical instruments are forbidden by Islam. There is nothing in the Qur'an that I can find relating to this matter. ... My question is this: are in fact certain musical instruments haram, and if so, which instruments or types of instruments are they?"

He also wanted to know: "Are drawings of living things (besides plants) forbidden altogether? Is it alright to have clothing with pictures resembling living things? Is it alright to watch cartoons on TV?"

By May 1997, he was turning on the rap scene he once admired, questioning the "sin and wrongdoing" of smoking, drinking, having sex and pursuing happiness. "I have never seen hapiness myself," he wrote. "Perhaps you can enlighten me as to what it looks like."

Two months later, he listed an impressive collection of more than 200 funk, rap and soul records for sale.

By August 1997, he was getting into political arguments, calling Zionists "devils" who are ruining Judaism.

The following month, he posted a long list of books about Islam that he wanted to buy. The list also included works on Palestine, Freemasons and brainwashing. The effect of his studies showed. His posts became longer and more tangled, with many references to Koranic law.

Growing Hostility

He also was becoming bitter about America.

"The more we try to imitate and please the kaffir, the more they laugh at us. 'Look at them stupid Mozlems, trying to be like us! Gee wheeyiz, I shore am glad Ize an Amuricayin Chrishchen! Hee haw,'" he wrote.

He disapproved of a Muslim convention being held "at a theme park owned by Disney, whose productions are full of kaffir mythology, magic, occultism, sexism, racism and homosexuality."

To a poster asking for recognition that there are gay Muslims, he wrote: "Please stop attempting to justify what you know is wrong."

In February 1998, he wanted to know what the Prophet Muhammed would have worn. "I've considered this carefully and decided that I can no longer imitate the dress of the American/European kaffirun," he wrote.

By April 1998, Walker's transformation was complete. When someone asked the same question he had posed two years earlier — does Islam ban music? — he jumped right in.

"Not long ago, I found myself in the same position you are now in with regard to music. Being as addicted as I was at the time, it was very difficult for me to come to terms with this matter and act appropriately," he wrote.

Music is indeed forbidden, he said, quoting all four Sunni schools of law. "Arguments to the contrary are ...not worth the time it takes to read/listen to them."

The hip-hop fan with the great record collection was no more. Within weeks, Walker was off to Yemen and then to Afghanistan to fight with the Taliban.

Original Publication Date: 12/11/01


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what a loser
1 posted on 12/11/2001 6:25:48 PM PST by Maxpowers
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To: Maxpowers
Seperated at birth from the Unibomber.
2 posted on 12/11/2001 6:29:22 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Maxpowers
I have all kinds of smartass things I could say, but none of them seem to fit. I wonder where his friends and family were during this?
3 posted on 12/11/2001 6:33:41 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Maxpowers
Names for j walker: "Johnny Bin Walker" (Rush Limbaugh), "Johnny Jihad" (Michael Medved), and, my favorite, "Rat boy" (Micael Savage)
4 posted on 12/11/2001 6:40:05 PM PST by freetexan
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To: Maxpowers
He disapproved of a Muslim convention being held "at a theme park owned by Disney, whose productions are full of kaffir mythology, magic, occultism, sexism, racism and homosexuality."

Johnny Bin Lately belonged to a group that sanctioned the flying of jets into skyscrapers, the murder of civilian Jews and Christians worldwide, and the torture of any Muslim unfortunate enough to commit the crime of shaving. I can see how evil Disney is when stacked up against the niceties of Talibisney.

Maybe the convention should have been held at the Suicide Bomber Theme Park in Palestine-- the one with the body parts splattered against the walls with the Sbarro Pizza.

5 posted on 12/11/2001 6:40:48 PM PST by freebilly
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To: Maxpowers
A seriously screwed-up kid with no sense of self. The intensity with which he tried to be black and then tried to be Muslim is directly proportional to the degree that he was nothing.
6 posted on 12/11/2001 6:42:23 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Maxpowers
I saw Ratboy with his dad in some family photos (probably put out by dirtbag trial lawyers to win sympathy). The kid and his dad are about as jewish - looking as anyone I have ever seen. It has been reported that his dad is Catholic, but he might be a convert (Marx, violently anti-semitic, was from a jewish family that converted to Lutheranism). Ratboy was using the last name Lindh in some of his net postings, but later switched to his mother's name Walker (less jewish sounding?) Wouldn't it be strange if the American taliban were jewish?
7 posted on 12/11/2001 6:44:55 PM PST by thucydides
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To: Maxpowers; Admin Moderator

Maxpowers member since December 6th, 2001

Are you only here to promote Darkstar.com?

8 posted on 12/11/2001 6:47:21 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Maxpowers
And this is the type that Islam attracts? Let's not forget the legions of prisoners.
9 posted on 12/11/2001 6:47:22 PM PST by lds23
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To: Maxpowers
wacked out. how embarassing. thats what happens when your parents indulge your every whim. i wonder how many of these indignant, militant civil liberties people you read about are really just mixed up rich teenagers trying to provoke a fight?
10 posted on 12/11/2001 6:48:12 PM PST by GodfearingTexan
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To: thucydides
In the short tape broadcast on Fox News that showed him talking, he spoke English with a pronounced accent. It sounded Middle Eastern to my ears. Did the kid became so brainwashed that he lost the ability to speak English like the California boy he once was? Very puzzling.
12 posted on 12/11/2001 6:53:09 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Maxpowers
He sounds like a democrat. The same blind hate for conservatives and Christians we hear from liberals. Are his parents liberal democrats? They must be - because the press hasn't covered it. If his parents were right wing we would never hear the end of it. Hear what he says and see if it isn't the same hate the democrats express for Christians.

"The more we try to imitate and please the kaffir, the more they laugh at us. 'Look at them stupid Mozlems, trying to be like us! Gee wheeyiz, I shore am glad Ize an Amuricayin Chrishchen! Hee haw,'" he wrote.

14 posted on 12/11/2001 6:57:59 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: nomasmojarras
I am sure that Walker realizes now what a cushy life he lived in this country.

His last thought, when they strap him down to the gurney, will be along the lines, "gee, I guess I screwed up".

15 posted on 12/11/2001 7:03:47 PM PST by samtheman
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To: aruanan
I couldn't believe it when I saw his face for the first time on T.V.

Naturally the beard covered most of his face....however, I'm sitting there going is he white

I agree with your analysis completely.

16 posted on 12/11/2001 7:14:30 PM PST by JakeWyld
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To: freetexan
Howza bout my personal favorite....

Johnny Walker Black! Johnny Black!

17 posted on 12/11/2001 7:21:09 PM PST by DCPatriot
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To: GOPJ; nomasmojarras; Ciexyz; Joseph Warren; GodfearingTexan; lds23; RedBloodedAmerican...
To: All

A little off topic..........Can anyone explain to me how the news media got this guys E-Mails? *and* What does it say about internet security if years later someone can post your opinions? Am I paranoid here?

Just a passing thought, but..........inquiring minds want to know.

18 posted on 12/11/2001 7:22:26 PM PST by DoctorMichael
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Who in the hell are you?

Is there some "law" that a newbie can't post?

You should get out more...instead of playing god.

19 posted on 12/11/2001 7:23:30 PM PST by DCPatriot
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To: DCPatriot; Admin Moderator
I think you've been around FR long enough to know. Thanks for the kind greeting, good to see someone who has been here this long has learned not to resort to personal attacks.
20 posted on 12/11/2001 7:26:19 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Maxpowers
So in Islam, the pursuit of sex is a sin, unless you kill thousands, then you get 72 virgin babes? It makes no sense.
21 posted on 12/11/2001 7:27:14 PM PST by j.cam
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To: DoctorMichael
Darkstart rivals the Guardian and Enquirer. The person posting apparently is only promoting that website and the content in order to get hits. It's a bogus post.
22 posted on 12/11/2001 7:27:37 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: DoctorMichael
You can simply search google since his newsgroups were connected to google groups.
23 posted on 12/11/2001 7:30:26 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: RedBloodedAmerican; DoctorMichael
I went to the link, but can't get anything. Can you?
24 posted on 12/11/2001 7:31:39 PM PST by Slip18
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To: Maxpowers
His postings are here
25 posted on 12/11/2001 7:33:33 PM PST by sigSEGV
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To: Slip18; Admin Moderator
It's a bogus post by this person. They are only wanting to get hits to their website.

The article on Darkstarmag keeps you on their website, when the article is here.

The post should be pulled.

26 posted on 12/11/2001 7:34:24 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: aruanan
I think that your assessments are correct. This is a kid who has lousy parents, and far too much free time on his hands.
27 posted on 12/11/2001 7:36:33 PM PST by nopardons
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Thanks.

I'm not REALLY paranoid...........although people ARE out to get me. LOL.

28 posted on 12/11/2001 7:37:53 PM PST by DoctorMichael
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To: Ciexyz
...he spoke English with a pronounced accent. It sounded Middle Eastern to my ears.

Instead of brainwashing, it could just be that he's very, very impressionable. Look at the stuff he wrote--he runs the gamut from being a black man to a muslim (anything but himself). The kid obviously had no direction in his life whatsoever. Johnny Walker isn't a free spirit, he's a discarded plastic shopping bag flailing in the wind.

29 posted on 12/11/2001 7:40:09 PM PST by randog
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Have you hit "abuse" yet?
30 posted on 12/11/2001 7:40:43 PM PST by Slip18
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To: DoctorMichael
...the news media got this guys E-Mails?

Its not E-Mails that are being published, but public news group postings.

31 posted on 12/11/2001 7:40:56 PM PST by C210N
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To: DoctorMichael
". . . although people ARE out to get me. LOL."

Me, too, but I'm not paranoid either.

32 posted on 12/11/2001 7:42:08 PM PST by Slip18
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
You have my favorite FR poem on your profile. "Waca, waca . . ."
33 posted on 12/11/2001 7:47:28 PM PST by Slip18
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To: Slip18
LOL!
35 posted on 12/11/2001 7:49:43 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: samtheman
"I have a difficult time believing that he has "never experienced happiness"...

Me too! They said he was estatic when he heard about the attacks on Sept. 11th. does that qualify as "happiness?"

36 posted on 12/11/2001 7:54:20 PM PST by dvan
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To: Maxpowers
wassup?

(c)RAP song for araFAT@$$:

hey you schmuck
hey you schmuck
do the goats all run
when you want to f**k?

37 posted on 12/11/2001 11:36:09 PM PST by rockfish59
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To: j.cam
Sexual repression--not a good thing. At least do it yourself...
38 posted on 12/11/2001 11:42:54 PM PST by cimon
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To: randog; RJayneJ

...he spoke English with a pronounced accent. It sounded Middle Eastern to my ears.

Instead of brainwashing, it could just be that he's very, very impressionable. Look at the stuff he wrote--he runs the gamut from being a black man to a muslim (anything but himself). The kid obviously had no direction in his life whatsoever. Johnny Walker isn't a free spirit, he's a discarded plastic shopping bag flailing in the wind.

BUMP for Post of the Day nomination.
39 posted on 12/12/2001 1:38:03 AM PST by jennyp
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To: randog
He's ZELIG!
40 posted on 12/12/2001 1:41:01 AM PST by jennyp
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To: jennyp
Thanks for the nomination! };^D)
41 posted on 12/12/2001 3:28:39 AM PST by RJayneJ
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To: RedBloodedAmerican; Admin Moderator
A lot of us indulge selfish purposes here from time to time. It's a good thread and interesting. I hardly ever click on anything as I'm paranoid about viruses; it's no skin off my nose if he is hoping for hits.

It takes a pretty dain bramaged person to try to be a different race. I've known some sad people who weren't content with their gender. Fortunately, they don't seem to be violent or traitors....
42 posted on 12/12/2001 3:48:21 AM PST by ChemistCat
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To: C210N
Thanks..........gotcha.
43 posted on 12/12/2001 5:50:16 AM PST by DoctorMichael
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To: GOPJ
He sounds like a democrat. The same blind hate for conservatives and Christians we hear from liberals. Are his parents liberal democrats? They must be - because the press hasn't covered it. If his parents were right wing we would never hear the end of it. Hear what he says and see if it isn't the same hate the democrats express for Christians.

I don't think Johnny Walker is a Democrat. After all the Taliban are Pro-Life, Pro Religion, and do not support equal rights for women. However, I do know that the kid who flew his plan into the building in Florida was a member of the Young Republicans and a supporter of bin Laden.

44 posted on 01/13/2002 8:36:54 PM PST by Austim
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To: sigSEGV; Slip18
This archived Usenet message (From Dec 12th!) gives more search terms (typos have been left alone):

DooDoo Walker's Random Bits

According to articles posted on Yet Another Froup, John-Boy "Caliban" Walker, our own home grown Islamist, was at one time a patron of/poster to UseNet, as long ago as 1995, primarily using an account apparently belonging to his Mummy Dearest, Marin Marilyn.

Caliban Johnny seems to have posted to assorted computer and music froups, using the singularly appropriate nom-de-net of "DooDoo." [1] In at least one article to a "hip-hop" group, he accused another poster of being a young teen-aged white boy wannabe-rapper, implying that he, J Walker, was black, and an accomplished rap artist.

He also apparently posted to soc.religion.islam, calling himself "Prof J" - which may or may not be of interest to Jdot.

"DooDoo's" articles may be dejagooed by searching for the following authors:

doodoo@hooked.net
doodoo@tuna.hooked.net
doodoo@also.hooked.net
doodoo@webe.hooked.net

Caliban Johnny signed several of these articles as "J O H N D O E" -
note the spaces, if you choose to run a dejagoogle using that.

Most of the articles seem to have been posted between 1995 and 1997.

46 posted on 01/13/2002 10:00:58 PM PST by weegee
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To: Austim
Democrats are liars. I'm ever sooooooo sure Walker's parents were liberals. Who would let a 17 year old "find himself" half a world away other than a liberal? We know them by their lies. Democrats are the lie. Have you ever known one who was truthful? They justify lies by deciding some people can be lied to and others not. You know, the concept of second class citizens? Hitler used it. All totalitarians use it. Some are people, some are not. We know who the democrats are... Their mantra is "everyone does it" -- and they're not talking about walks in the park. They're talking about lying. Why do you defend them?
47 posted on 01/14/2002 6:58:30 PM PST by GOPJ
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