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Hispanic leaders to confer on roundup (SLC airport)
The Deseret News ^ | 12/13/2001 | Pat Reavy

Posted on 12/13/2001 1:09:11 PM PST by Utah Girl

Leaders of Utah's Hispanic community, frustrated over this week's roundup of undocumented workers at the Salt Lake International Airport, were scheduled to meet Thursday afternoon to discuss how they will respond to the indictments.

Meanwhile, Utah's Public Safety Commissioner and the U.S. Attorney for Utah emphasized that the indictments had nothing to do with race. "It's nonsense. I can't be more clear than that. It's nonsense," said U.S. Attorney for Utah Paul Warner.

Members of the Hispanic community were also making a call for donations to help the children and spouses of workers who are now in jail.

The group was scheduled to meet with at least four attorneys to decide what to do next and to discuss the intention of the roundup, said James Yapias, chairman for the Hispanic Advisory Council.

Federal arrest warrants were issued for 69 airport workers Tuesday who lied on their job applications. Those workers had access to some of the most secured areas of the airport. As of Thursday morning, 50 of those indicted had been arrested.

Another 202 workers who also lied on their applications but worked in less secure areas were also fired but will not be prosecuted. Many of the 271 workers affected were undocumented immigrants from Central and South America.

"We are going back to stereotyping," Yapias said.

"It's unfortunate people feel that way. The reality is clear and the perception is something different," Warner said. "I didn't care where they came from. My goal was to find out who's lying, who's misrepresenting, who's getting into the secured areas of the airport. Anyone who has lied to get in there is a threat."

"This was not a roundup based on color of skin," added Utah Public Safety Commission Robert Flowers. "These were federal indictments from a federal grand jury based on individuals who have done criminal behavior. These are not first-time offenders."

While community leaders say they understand the need for security at the airport, they don't believe much thought was put into what would happen after the workers were arrested. Medina said there was no plan on how to handle what she called the "secondary impact" of the arrests, the families.

Leticia Medina, director of the Utah Office for Hispanic Affairs, said she has heard stories of children who are still with their babysitters because both parents are in jail. Another woman is pregnant and her husband was arrested, she said.

"The breadwinners are in jail," said Graciela Italiano-Thomas, CEO of Centro de La Familia in Salt Lake City. "In some cases two parents are in jail and the kids are left with the baby-sitter."

"When you look at these individuals arrested, they aren't the problem. They aren't terrorists," Medina said. The people who were arrested just want to work, she said. They are working low paid jobs with no benefits that no one else wants, she said.

Yapias said the workers arrested are just like any other family in Utah. They pay taxes. The difference is they are not documented, he said.

"When you look at these individuals arrested, they aren't the problem. They aren't terrorists," Medina said. "The reality is there are undocumented workers in every state in the country."

But Warner said that issue alone is something that has to be taken seriously.

"These people are not innocent casualties on the war on terrorism," Warner said. "Yes they may be working, but they have lied. They have come into the country illegally. They have lied on multiple occasions to obtain documents. They have repeatedly violated federal law.

Yapias said he was upset with state and federal officials for going on national TV and saying Salt Lake had the safest airport in the nation following Tuesday's roundup. "That's just one way of saying Hispanics are not safe to be around," he said.

Employers should have been given notice of the problem and given a deadline to fix it, Yapias said.

Flowers said more than 8,000 airport workers were looked at, regardless of race. "Any angle you look at this, you're going to be hard pressed knowing all the facts that anyone was picked on," he said.


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This makes make mad. Those workers broke the law, a federal law. I love Utah AG Paul Warner's response though. He didn't make nice with them. Is the law only supposed to be obeyed now by some people? If you belong to a group, Hispanic, African American, Muslim, then you can lie with impunity and scream about being caught?
1 posted on 12/13/2001 1:09:11 PM PST by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl
"The breadwinners are in jail," ...

And it's their fault that they're there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is NOT law enforcement's problem that people with children broke the law.

2 posted on 12/13/2001 1:14:20 PM PST by freedomcrusader
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To: freedomcrusader
I guess the lesson is to make sure you have a couple of kids and then go commit all the crimes you want, and these morons will cry if you get shipped off to jail...
3 posted on 12/13/2001 1:16:54 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
No, they only care if you're an illegal Hispanic that gets shipped off to jail, children or not.
4 posted on 12/13/2001 1:19:42 PM PST by freedomcrusader
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To: freedomcrusader
When I was hired at my job, I had to document who I said I was with a driver's license or passport. There were very specific penalties attached for not doing so, including losing my job. I'm just tired of these bleeding heart liberals. And Rocky Anderson is a disgrace. He is a public official and should be upholding the law and the actions that were taken. I've already called and asked his lame secretary why he feels that some people can get away with breaking the law and others cannot. She was snotty.
5 posted on 12/13/2001 1:23:03 PM PST by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl
This is the PC cr$p in our newspapers that encourages the breaking of federal and state laws: "Another 202 workers who also lied on their applications but worked in less secure areas were also fired but will not be prosecuted. Many of the 271 workers affected were undocumented immigrants from Central and South America."

These were ILLEGAL ALIENS!

This has nothing to do with racial profiling or stereo typing unless the excuse maker is telling us that most Mexicans in this country are: ILLEGAL ALIENS! Therefore we can't ask for legal documentation as that would be racial profiling!

Undocumented immigrants my $rse! They were ILLEGAL ALIENS!

Thanks for posting this! Your governor did a great job!

6 posted on 12/13/2001 1:24:14 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Utah Girl
Yapias said the workers arrested are just like any other family in Utah. They pay taxes. The difference is they are not documented, he said.

Oh, and the one other slight difference they forgot to mention is that THEY BROKE THE LAW. Quite unlike most families in Utah.

7 posted on 12/13/2001 1:24:37 PM PST by freedomcrusader
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To: Utah Girl
As I understand this, many (some) of these workers used someone elses SS#. Screwing around with someones SS account or SS# can cause some problems
9 posted on 12/13/2001 1:30:47 PM PST by rface
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To: Utah Girl; Grampa Dave
Utah AG Paul Warner's

US Attorney for Utah Warner. i only correct you because utah currently has
one of the finest AG's in the nation, shurtleff.

grampa dave took the words out of my keyboard re:undocumented. bravo sierra.

poor old rocky was spinning so hard over this, the reporters needed dramamine.
what a disgusting, shallow bottom feeder he is...not pc to arrest illegals... need the votes.

my apologies to any self respecting bottom feeders out there...


10 posted on 12/13/2001 1:35:18 PM PST by glock rocks
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To: rface
As I understand this, many (some) of these workers used someone elses SS#. Screwing around with someones SS account or SS# can cause some problems

One of the women I work with has had some problems with her SS#. Someone else was using it, she's been working on clearing this problem for over two years with the local Social Security office. It hasn't been a small problem for her, it's been a major headache.

11 posted on 12/13/2001 1:36:31 PM PST by Utah Girl
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To: freedomcrusader
Yapias said the workers arrested are just like any other family in Utah. They pay taxes. The difference is they are not documented, he said.

How does the tax situation work if someone is using a false name/social security number (because they are an illegal alien) to work? Taxes are taken out of their check, but credited to the number they used? The person with the number they used is then hit with a wacked out W-4/1040? Does the illegal worker use services such as AFDC/food stamps/welfare/health services that would not have been available had their income been truthfully recorded? Is their a net loss or gain to society by having the false social secuity account used?

I'm not asking about the moral fairness of someone getting away with earning income that's not accurately reported, just the actual economic impact on society.

12 posted on 12/13/2001 1:38:08 PM PST by ibbryn
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To: glock rocks
Thanks for the correction Glock! Do you see Rocky getting another term as mayor up in SLC? I also hear that more of his staff are leaving in disgust. And for Rocky to go on CNN and b*tch and moan about the arrests was beyond the pale. This has me hopping mad.
13 posted on 12/13/2001 1:38:11 PM PST by Utah Girl
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15 posted on 12/13/2001 1:46:53 PM PST by RippleFire
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To: RippleFire
Clever graphic, I like it a lot...
17 posted on 12/13/2001 2:07:31 PM PST by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl; Joseph Warren
that was aimed at the hispanic groups mentioned in the article...not utah girl.
go read ripplefire's other posts...

unless i'm, well, wrong.

19 posted on 12/13/2001 2:11:23 PM PST by glock rocks
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To: Utah Girl
Here is Mr. Yapias' e-mail
21 posted on 12/13/2001 2:17:32 PM PST by B.O. Plenty
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To: Utah Girl
You'd think legal hispanics would be happy the illegals are being deported, as the the illegals are giving the legal ones a bad name.
22 posted on 12/13/2001 2:22:25 PM PST by TheDon
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You'd think legal hispanics would be happy the illegals are being deported, as the the illegals are giving the legal ones a bad name.

i thought about that, and don't get me wrong... i came up in agricultural area here,
and many of my summer friends were migrant farm hand's kids...

my reply is basically, um... naw. too many cousins involved.

23 posted on 12/13/2001 2:33:54 PM PST by glock rocks
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To: Utah Girl
You have to realize that this is really Mexico and these poor people are just exercising their right to be in their homeland. Politicians have looked at the demographics and birth rates and decided that John and Sally American can go suck an egg. They are backing where the votes are. Too bad they won't be for them or the Dem. Party in the New Aztlan.
24 posted on 12/13/2001 2:51:56 PM PST by willyone
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To: glock rocks
my reply is basically, um... naw. too many cousins involved.

I see, all in the family type criminals. I guess that does make it okay! LOL!

25 posted on 12/13/2001 2:53:21 PM PST by TheDon
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To: Maalaea
Yapias said the workers arrested are just like any other family in Utah. They pay taxes. The difference is they are not documented, he said.

At least Yapias is right on one point. They are not documented. Paying taxes does not make a person legal. I AM LEGAL. THEY ARE ILLEGAL!! COMPRENDE?

27 posted on 12/13/2001 3:34:05 PM PST by Brownie74
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To: Utah Girl
You'll be hearing more and more illegal alien sob stories over this. Wonder what would've happened if the falsified forms had all been from Middle Easterners? Think Yapia would be...yapping?
28 posted on 12/13/2001 3:55:14 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Joseph Warren
You could always rent a clue if you can't afford to purchase one. In case you haven't noticed, comments about articles on FR often take the form of a reply to the original poster. If you would care to examine the context, it is quite clear who is doing the whining.
35 posted on 12/13/2001 5:27:09 PM PST by RippleFire
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To: nomasmojarras
Weren't Warner's statements the best? Just blunt and truthful. These guys are not messing around with our safety. SLC Airport is going to be heavily travelled during the Olympics, it must be safe for all.
36 posted on 12/13/2001 6:17:43 PM PST by Utah Girl
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To: RippleFire
please see #19 and #20...
37 posted on 12/13/2001 6:56:40 PM PST by glock rocks
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