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PhotoPoint parent shutters operation
Posted on 1/10/02 1:15 PM Pacific by Uncle Sausage

PhotoPoint parent shutters operations
By Gwendolyn Mariano
Staff Writer, CNET
January 7, 2002, 2:35 p.m. PT

The parent of online photo site shut down last month and is liquidating its assets, but it expects to announce a plan to return photos archived with the service within one or two weeks, the company's president said Monday.

"While Pantellic has ceased operations, we are actively working on a solution for people to get copies of their photos," Pantellic President Dale Gass wrote in an e-mail. "There will be an announcement at, and members will be notified via e-mail when this is available."

Gass' statement is a rare public communication from privately held Pantellic since the PhotoPoint site was pulled down without notice in mid-December. The shutdown left some 1.25 million PhotoPoint members in the dark about the status of their accounts and personal files, offering a cautionary tale of the evanescent nature of business in cyberspace.

For the past several weeks, numerous PhotoPoint customers have complained of the outage in e-mails to CNET, including some who said they had not made backups of their photo files.

"I was one of their paying customers and have now lost about two years worth of pictures that I had on their albums for storage," one reader wrote to CNET "I did not have any backup copies because I thought that was what I was paying for...These are pictures that cannot be replaced. They are that of my grandchildren, kids, parties, vacations, and the construction of our house. I am heartsick about it."

According to Gass, Pantellic has been unable to communicate with its customers since a "substantial amount" of its networking equipment was seized on the day the Halifax, Nova Scotia-based company ceased operations.

In a letter to Pantellic creditors, the company said it closed Dec. 14 and had asked creditors to make arrangements to retrieve its equipment. It was unclear how much equipment had been claimed or how the liquidation would affect the company's ability to preserve data formerly in its possession.

The letter, dated Dec. 31, warned creditors that equipment they take possession of "may contain data or intellectual property secured by another creditor."

The company said it expects to have outstanding debts between $4.7 million and $5.5 million and no assets of any substantial value after secured creditors reclaim its property. As a result, the company does not "anticipate that there will be any return to unsecured creditors," the letter said.

Asked in an e-mail about the physical whereabouts of its equipment, Gass replied that he was "not really at liberty" to answer.

The demise of PhotoPoint comes as the online photo market is shrinking, leaving only the strongest players on the field. In June, Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers-backed closed its consumer operations. That same month, Ofoto was swept up by Eastman Kodak. And in October, mail-order processor District Photo bought online photo company Snapfish.

For its part, PhotoPoint has been passed around like a hot potato. Pantellic spun the company off about two years ago and scored around $11 million in venture capital financing for the start-up. But venture capital firm Sherwood Partners shut it down and sold some of the assets back to Pantellic in July. After a five-day outage, the site returned but began charging for its services.

Gass said Pantellic took all good faith measures possible to try and keep the PhotoPoint site alive, but in the end, he blamed bandwidth costs and the effects of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks in driving the service out of business. He said the company stopped charging credit cards, cashing checks, and taking print orders from "the instant we knew our viability was threatened."

He added that the company only belatedly realized that some of its customers were relying on it as the sole keeper of treasured photos.

"While we always intended PhotoPoint to be a means for people to share their photos, and not a photo archival service, we now realize that some people kept their only copies of their photos on the site," he said.

73 posted on 01/17/2002 4:15:06 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
photopoint can go jump off a cliff !!!!

They are thieves and have no class at all. ALL they had to do if they were honest and NOT liberals would have been to send an email to each of their accounts , saying we are broke and cannot do this anymore, please get your photos off our site by such and such a date.

Did they do this , NO!!!!!!!!

They will never have my sympathy and all I lost was the cost of what I paid to belong. I have my photos on tons of floppy's and CD's.But they stole, lied and led their subscribbers on......typical LIBERALS!!!!!

74 posted on 01/17/2002 4:33:27 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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Here is a "Photopoint" ping to FReepers who posted on these recent threads:
*Fading photos*
Photopoint comes up blank, frustrating digital camera users
Posted on 1/5/02 10:47 PM Pacific by Registered

hey photopoint is out of buisness
Posted on 1/16/02 8:57 PM Pacific by ATOMIC_PUNK

See the update on post 73 of THIS thread.
75 posted on 01/17/2002 4:42:01 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
"He said the company stopped charging credit cards, cashing checks, and taking print orders from "the instant we knew our viability was threatened." "


The Lovely Wife signed up in mid November. TELL me these clowns didn't know that they were in SERIOUS trouble long before then.

This is exactly the same as a contract painter taking money to buy paint to do your house........knowing full well that he'll be out of business in a few weeks.

They probably won't be sued since it's nearly impossible to place a dollar amount on pictures alone....

78 posted on 01/17/2002 5:06:55 PM PST by RightOnline
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THANK YOU, RD.....Just this morning I took a look at that site "EFFED", saw NO update since 12/17/01!!!! Will remove that stupid site from the bookmarks!

I hope this is true, and we are able to retrieve our pics!!!!!

80 posted on 01/18/2002 6:14:52 AM PST by Merovingian
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